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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 27, 2011, 01:45:11 am »
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Pop Culture / Re: Chag4 reads...
« on: July 25, 2011, 05:57:05 pm »
I'll look into it... As soon as I'm done with Katherine Kerr's last book in the initial devvery series that I've been taking forever to get through for some reason.
Raymond E. Feist writes the Tolkien style fantasy story. Your basic magic, dwarves, elves, gods, medieval influence, etc. Its based roughly off an RPG game that he and a heap of friends developed back in the 70's/80's. So its not the generic Dragon Lance world or anything, but another, very detailed one with its own detailed magic system.
Raymond E. Feist writes the Tolkien style fantasy story. Your basic magic, dwarves, elves, gods, medieval influence, etc. Its based roughly off an RPG game that he and a heap of friends developed back in the 70's/80's. So its not the generic Dragon Lance world or anything, but another, very detailed one with its own detailed magic system.
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Pop Culture / Re: Chag4 reads...
« on: July 25, 2011, 05:11:27 pm »
Yeah I'll have a read 
I'd recommend Raymond E. Feist. He's down to the last two books in his entire series so by the time you catch up, you'll probably be able to finish the lot.
I'd recommend Raymond E. Feist. He's down to the last two books in his entire series so by the time you catch up, you'll probably be able to finish the lot.
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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 25, 2011, 08:01:15 am »
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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 24, 2011, 11:12:53 pm »
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Free Talk / Re: The Chat Thread
« on: July 24, 2011, 11:05:58 pm »
Damn, I was out at the Mana Bar last night and forgot to call and see if you wanted to join me there Churba.
Another day.
But hey! You, Chag4 and Razzly have all posted back here so good to see some of the old crew returning a bit.
Another day.
But hey! You, Chag4 and Razzly have all posted back here so good to see some of the old crew returning a bit.
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Hall of Games / Re: The COOL "Last Post Wins" Thread
« on: July 24, 2011, 11:04:26 pm »
Woohoo, first a resurfacing of the lovely Razzly and now the ever wonderful Chag4 is looking to make a return!!!
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 22, 2011, 05:35:35 pm »
Just to tackle the money problem one last time:
Through much of medieval europe, before the 1800s, Silver was more valuable than gold, so a silver coin was more valuable than a gold coin by about 15:1 on average through the years.
Platinum, while expensive today, was actually used for many years to create false/fake coins as its a metal often found in rocks containing gold and it also alloys with gold. Which is why it is less valuable than even Gold. Its also why people used to bite gold and silver coins, because platinum is much harder while gold and silver is softer.
However Platinum never really became a popular metal for coinage because it was more difficult to work with as a harder metal. Its only in the last century that they've started to use it to create collectable coins.
In Iscariot (not sure about Marvollo exchange rate) the monetary values are roughly:
$1 = 1 Platinum
$10 = 1 Gold
$100 = 1 Silver
$1000 = 1 Electrum
Most fantasy writers generally don't bother going to the old medieval values of silver being more valuable than gold and gold more valuable than platinum because it confuses readers who are accustomed to the modern valuation of silver < gold < platinum (or because they don't know).
Through much of medieval europe, before the 1800s, Silver was more valuable than gold, so a silver coin was more valuable than a gold coin by about 15:1 on average through the years.
Platinum, while expensive today, was actually used for many years to create false/fake coins as its a metal often found in rocks containing gold and it also alloys with gold. Which is why it is less valuable than even Gold. Its also why people used to bite gold and silver coins, because platinum is much harder while gold and silver is softer.
However Platinum never really became a popular metal for coinage because it was more difficult to work with as a harder metal. Its only in the last century that they've started to use it to create collectable coins.
In Iscariot (not sure about Marvollo exchange rate) the monetary values are roughly:
$1 = 1 Platinum
$10 = 1 Gold
$100 = 1 Silver
$1000 = 1 Electrum
Most fantasy writers generally don't bother going to the old medieval values of silver being more valuable than gold and gold more valuable than platinum because it confuses readers who are accustomed to the modern valuation of silver < gold < platinum (or because they don't know).
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 22, 2011, 05:58:45 am »
Yeah, they could also be taking note that inflation is a problem in Marvallo, but if they're using the same coinage I can't imagine that the values of services and wares could differ that much or people of Iscariot would be exporting like mad to Marvallo and coming home with riches.
Its probably more to do with accommodation being scarce or something, so Marvallo (or at least that town) costs a lot for temporary accommodation, rent, land purchase, etc.
But even in our world, 1 Silver ($100) a night isn't too high above the general minimum for staying in a major town or city.
Its probably more to do with accommodation being scarce or something, so Marvallo (or at least that town) costs a lot for temporary accommodation, rent, land purchase, etc.
But even in our world, 1 Silver ($100) a night isn't too high above the general minimum for staying in a major town or city.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 22, 2011, 05:13:49 am »200 platinium is only 2 silver, and stay at inn cost one silver?
Makes me wonder whether the metals gold, silver and platinum occur in different relative proportions in the Flipside world than in ours. Or maybe the gold and silver coins are much smaller and lighter than silver coins?
Nah, in earlier times, Silver coins really were more valuable than Gold. About 15 Gold = 1 Silver was the steady ratio until the 1800s
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 21, 2011, 06:12:46 pm »Yes but in certain times and cultures, silver was considered more valuable than Gold... Or rather, Silver pieces were more valuable than Gold pieces.EDIT: WAIT! I can't tell if Platinum is more expensive than Gold or not. If Maytag had more Platinum than Gold in her bag then that suggests it's worth less than Gold: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=355
Maytag also has more gold in her bag than silver, and those electrum coins must be priceless. Dealing with coins which are both heavy and take up a good deal of space one should seek to carry as many of the highest denomination possible. No - I think you were right with your initial belief that platinium is worth more than gold returning to the again initial question of how many golds in a platinium.
If Bern really has $20,000 worth of money on her, I can't imagine that she'd be concerned about money but *shrug*
If she does have that much, maybe she's worried about having enough to still find her father and get home (although Maytag could always bring more for the return journey through the portal).
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Mistake Thread
« on: July 20, 2011, 04:16:15 pm »
Chapter 30, Page 20, Panels 2 + 6. Polly/Blackbird's shirt goes up into her neck collar at the back, but in panel 1 and Previous panels such as the first time we see her the top clearly doesn't go into the neck collar but around it for straps.
Actually... Crud, some mistakes with the collar.
Chapter 29, Page 29. We see Polly has the shirt with shirt collar and the neck collar.
Chapter 30, Page 2. We see multiple panels with Polly no longer wearing the neck collar.
Chapter 30, Page 3. No neck collar.
Chapter 30, Page 8. The neck collar is back.
Actually... Crud, some mistakes with the collar.
Chapter 29, Page 29. We see Polly has the shirt with shirt collar and the neck collar.
Chapter 30, Page 2. We see multiple panels with Polly no longer wearing the neck collar.
Chapter 30, Page 3. No neck collar.
Chapter 30, Page 8. The neck collar is back.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 20, 2011, 07:22:17 am »
GODDESS OF CUTENESS!!!
Yeah, either a fully scam from Polly here, or a trick to get them closer.
Yeah, either a fully scam from Polly here, or a trick to get them closer.
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Free Talk / Re: Forumite Picture thread
« on: July 20, 2011, 01:32:48 am »
Hot stuff as always smiles. Love the hat
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 20, 2011, 01:26:24 am »
WOW! $600 for a night?
...well, if its an entire night, maybe thats not so expensive.
If we presume that 1 Platinum = 10gold then she should have $20,000.
We know that 1 Gold = $10
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs03pg03.html
Although, I recall it mentioned somwhere that the value of gold was double that (i.e. 1 Gold = $20) but can't remember where that was written... Maybe its in the notes or forum somewhere *shrug*.
EDIT: WAIT! I can't tell if Platinum is more expensive than Gold or not. If Maytag had more Platinum than Gold in her bag then that suggests it's worth less than Gold: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=355
So if we presume it's 1/10th then she only has $200
...well, if its an entire night, maybe thats not so expensive.
If we presume that 1 Platinum = 10gold then she should have $20,000.
We know that 1 Gold = $10
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs03pg03.html
Although, I recall it mentioned somwhere that the value of gold was double that (i.e. 1 Gold = $20) but can't remember where that was written... Maybe its in the notes or forum somewhere *shrug*.
EDIT: WAIT! I can't tell if Platinum is more expensive than Gold or not. If Maytag had more Platinum than Gold in her bag then that suggests it's worth less than Gold: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=355
So if we presume it's 1/10th then she only has $200
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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 19, 2011, 04:47:00 pm »
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 19, 2011, 01:53:55 am »
I'd more imagine something like the time skip between chapter 29, pages 18 and 19 where Crest mentions wanting to talk to Maytag about Suspiria at the end of page 18 and then Maytag burst's out that he's been sleeping with her, letting us know that its been explained.
So we might just have a page start where Polly starts out by saying something like. "Wow, a steady girlfriend for nearly 4 years hu?" and/or "Clairen left shortly after you did. I wish I'd had a chance to convince her into joining the Enforcers as well. Maybe she could have avoided this "Thin Man" and her fate if I'd tried harder"
Or something like that, I'm just picking quick examples... I wonder if Bern and Maytag still remember the Thin Man, or if the Conclave took the opportunity to wipe all mention of him from their memories while they scanned them... doubtful they'd have done that.
So we might just have a page start where Polly starts out by saying something like. "Wow, a steady girlfriend for nearly 4 years hu?" and/or "Clairen left shortly after you did. I wish I'd had a chance to convince her into joining the Enforcers as well. Maybe she could have avoided this "Thin Man" and her fate if I'd tried harder"
Or something like that, I'm just picking quick examples... I wonder if Bern and Maytag still remember the Thin Man, or if the Conclave took the opportunity to wipe all mention of him from their memories while they scanned them... doubtful they'd have done that.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 18, 2011, 04:04:41 pm »
I wonder what ever happened to Bern's other admirer, Venice. I would have thought for sure that she'd be hanging out with Glyph and Moby during Maytag's performances. Particularly while Bern was away. But maybe she'd be embarrassed to confront Maytag after hitting on Bern.
Heck, maybe thats the pair-up. Regina and Vennice (unlikely since Regina has shown that she's not bisexual or homosexual).
I agree that we might see a kiss stealing moment from Polly, but it could just as easily be her looking over her shoulder as she leaves to come back later or something. Maybe she'll try to recruit her as well. I wonder if Bern did mention what she's been up to, such as her relationship with Maytag, or (more likely) her reunion with Clairen and Clairen's death.
Marvallo certainly seems to be a bit of an industrial state, possibly relying on real world mechanics more than magic like Escariot. I'm sure they have powerful sorcerers and all, but maybe not a university or significant organisation that really drives magic practice and benefits on a large scale.
I could imagine that Solstice might not have such technology due to the fact its surrounded by sorcerer run towns and may even have an aversion to certain technologies as well as sorcery.
Heck, maybe thats the pair-up. Regina and Vennice (unlikely since Regina has shown that she's not bisexual or homosexual).
I agree that we might see a kiss stealing moment from Polly, but it could just as easily be her looking over her shoulder as she leaves to come back later or something. Maybe she'll try to recruit her as well. I wonder if Bern did mention what she's been up to, such as her relationship with Maytag, or (more likely) her reunion with Clairen and Clairen's death.
Marvallo certainly seems to be a bit of an industrial state, possibly relying on real world mechanics more than magic like Escariot. I'm sure they have powerful sorcerers and all, but maybe not a university or significant organisation that really drives magic practice and benefits on a large scale.
I could imagine that Solstice might not have such technology due to the fact its surrounded by sorcerer run towns and may even have an aversion to certain technologies as well as sorcery.
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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 18, 2011, 07:25:26 am »
Three ZEROES on the end of a two.
And yet we're at 001 for Mods
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Hall of Games / Re: The COOL "Last Post Wins" Thread
« on: July 18, 2011, 12:15:01 am »
Hmmm, I'll have to pick Brandy this time around.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 18, 2011, 12:12:40 am »i quite like Suspira and Crest as characters, it would be nice if they got together.
I dunno now... I'm kind of liking the idea of a Crest-Regina pair up. Crest just seems to be too much of the underdog compared to Suspiria with her level 3 natural magic and personality, etc. Regina, on the other hand, is a much more meek and humble person who, while skilled, isn't at the top of the ladder in any field.
In fact, if I think about it, both Regina and Crest are sort of multi-class characters, with Regina having some skill in Sorcery and now entertainment but being an expert in neither while Crest has that rouge side with his poker and cheating skills but also some skill in swordsmanship now.
Bern, Maytag and Suspiria are the super team between sorcery, swordsmanship and rogue/bard while Crest and Regina are the meek team with lesser swordsmanship, magic, rogue and bard skills.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Vote Incentive Request Thread for July 2011
« on: July 15, 2011, 09:20:37 pm »
I've got it Andrea, PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it to you.
My own is coming up next. Maytag and Bernadette as children.
looking forward to it, WOOT!
My own is coming up next. Maytag and Bernadette as children.
looking forward to it, WOOT!
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 15, 2011, 06:04:02 am »
...What if Melter was only doing a follow up check?
...What if Suspira has already been worked on before in her life?
...What if Thin Man is responsible for Suspira reaching Level 3 sorcery without Disolving tests?
...What if Suspira has already been worked on before in her life?
...What if Thin Man is responsible for Suspira reaching Level 3 sorcery without Disolving tests?
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 15, 2011, 03:33:15 am »
Kismet from Wikipedia: "Fate or Destiny in Turkish and Urdu, a predetermined course of events"
I don't know what to think of Inverness' response here... Disturbing to say the least. Something is not right, I don't know if it's something Melter did or if she's going through some further stages of grief or self-loathing that could be dangerous.
I don't know what to think of Inverness' response here... Disturbing to say the least. Something is not right, I don't know if it's something Melter did or if she's going through some further stages of grief or self-loathing that could be dangerous.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Mistake Thread
« on: July 15, 2011, 03:14:35 am »
Chapter 30, Page 18, panel 4. Suspira is missing the bangle on her right wrist, seen earlier.
EDIT: Actually...
Chapter 30, Page 13, panel 7. Suspira has a bangle on her right wrist but not her left.
Chapter 30, Page 14: There's a hint of another bangle on her left wrist in panel 4 and 5. Nothing significant though.
EDIT: Actually...
Chapter 30, Page 13, panel 7. Suspira has a bangle on her right wrist but not her left.
Chapter 30, Page 14: There's a hint of another bangle on her left wrist in panel 4 and 5. Nothing significant though.
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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 14, 2011, 02:34:31 pm »
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Pop Culture / Re: What Are You Reading Right Now?!?!?! :)
« on: July 14, 2011, 02:58:12 am »
Reading Katharine Kerr's Dragonspell.
And trying to remember the 3 books in the series before it.
And trying to remember the 3 books in the series before it.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 14, 2011, 02:56:51 am »
HEHE, The vote incentive looks almost like Suspira is rolling her eyes at the request.
AND YOU GO CREST!
Kin was killed by a monster created by the Thin Man who was killing innocent people, including women and children, daily and would have killed more if not for Suspira and Kin's actions to arrive about 4 days earlier and deal with her. Bern would have died for certain for one.
While Suspira can easily be construed as the most wreakless one who battled Bloody Mary, all four of them concluded that Bloody Mary must have died from the meteor and walked away from the site without posting someone to at least keep a watch:
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=532
And it was Kin who ultimately choose to face her again, when he had little or no hope of survival (until Suspira cast the spell on his sword):
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=601
I suppose he took the responsibility of the Phalanx much more seriously than Suspira, as we see in the next page after that last, but he was just as slack in dealing with her, not even drawing his sword until Suspira called upon him to finish her off. If she'd attacked him through the wall instead of Suspira, he would have died there.
AND YOU GO CREST!
Kin was killed by a monster created by the Thin Man who was killing innocent people, including women and children, daily and would have killed more if not for Suspira and Kin's actions to arrive about 4 days earlier and deal with her. Bern would have died for certain for one.
While Suspira can easily be construed as the most wreakless one who battled Bloody Mary, all four of them concluded that Bloody Mary must have died from the meteor and walked away from the site without posting someone to at least keep a watch:
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=532
And it was Kin who ultimately choose to face her again, when he had little or no hope of survival (until Suspira cast the spell on his sword):
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=601
I suppose he took the responsibility of the Phalanx much more seriously than Suspira, as we see in the next page after that last, but he was just as slack in dealing with her, not even drawing his sword until Suspira called upon him to finish her off. If she'd attacked him through the wall instead of Suspira, he would have died there.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:46:43 pm »
"...Unpleasent person I WAS"
I think that last word is a key in this discussion. Despite a few relapses I'm still willing to believe that Inverness has matured a little from that attitude, mainly as a result of loosing Kin due in no small part to her immaturity as much as his.
P.S. LOOOOOVE the colouring Delusion. Guess we know the cover for Book 6 (or maybe book 7)
I think that last word is a key in this discussion. Despite a few relapses I'm still willing to believe that Inverness has matured a little from that attitude, mainly as a result of loosing Kin due in no small part to her immaturity as much as his.
P.S. LOOOOOVE the colouring Delusion. Guess we know the cover for Book 6 (or maybe book 7)
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Hall of Games / Re: Beat the mods. (Record forumites=135 v/s mods=202)
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:33:27 pm »
Twice the fun with two Gods of Flipside in the house.