No more walls of text in the chapter discussion thread, please?
You know, that seems vaguely contrary to some underlying aesop in the comic from back when it was good. Oh irony. But alright, I'll try to keep it simpler. For great anti-intellectualism!
There's no doubt that some people will choose the monster-free country, especially if rumour travels about what's happening in Iscariot.
People are living in Marvallo. All I'm doing is proposing one reason why they might have chosen to live there.
You seem a little jumpy at people who defend the place though.
Chill out a bit. There's no need to be quite as demeaning as you're being.
I apologize for being demeaning, but anyone with a brain knows that an entire society can't be judged based on one single upper class neighborhood. That's obviously moronic. It's the kind of thing anyone would realize is wrong if you just sat down and thought about it for a minute. But that stupidity is the basis for your opinion, and stupid opinions are kind of my berserk button. Now, I've already outlined examples of why you're wrong, which obviously nobody even read. But if you're going to continue arguing a logical fallacy, well, I guess it was my mistake for responding, since I can no better disprove broken logic than I can the existence of a deity.
Back on topic, the newest page is kind of funny. From the pathetic way Bern's behaving, I half expect her to collapse on the floor and burst into tears about how she never even wanted to be a knight.
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United or not, there's no way for commoners to improve their circumstances when business and government team up to look out for their own monied interests. you said:
"Unfortunately, fascism is hard to fight. Normally you'd have business and government fighting and weakening one another. When they work together, you need some outside force like another country or a roving band of adventurers to come in and shake everything up. Otherwise, fascism remains intact and the people suffer under it. Let's just hope The Great Benefactor doesn't decide to try spreading the glory of Marvallo into Iscariot. Luckily, Iscariot is a land of badass ruled by the big good, so at the very least it's probably still safe from being overrun by the wealthy ruling class."
Normally you'd have business and government fighting and weakening one another? No, normally you'd have corruption, and lots of it. Flipside to my knowledge doesn't even have "modern democracies", and even those have plenty of lobbying and job offers to politicians from businesses, even if you try to focus on the "best" ones in Europe. "Lower" forms of government tend to have even more corruption. The only way businesses care less is if your nation is of trivial importance, but then your nation is beholden to other nations for defense, and they will twist your arm, including at the behest of powerful businesses if the powerful businesses really want something, if they have a reason.
You fancy yourself politically knowledgeable and intellectual, but you look like an extremist who "imposes" his assumptions onesidedly on everything to me. This is beyond your love of tropes and TTGL (Flipside is not TTGL; get over it). Tell me exactly why gangs ruling would constantly turn the area into a "hellscape"? In real life gangs try to gain money and power like other groups. It's true that they tend to accept fewer limitations on their acts when compared to other groups of the same level of power, but that doesn't mean that they want to constantly be murdering and thus be
getting murdered in return. Just like nations, gangs will typically not war forever, and will work out their place in time, resulting in (in their case) an uneasy peace. I'm not saying it would be great, but there's no reason it must be a hellscape.
Anyway, you say so much, but you don't tend to admit that there are any upsides in a system that isn't of your own preference, nor do you seem to allow positive motivations to maintainers of such a system. This is not the same as favoring an inferior system over a superior one, even given agreement between you and others on the rankings of systems, which isn't a given. Perhaps you admit that "the wealthy" enjoy this system, but you naturally value that at zero, so it doesn't count for much. Perhaps you should just accept the story for what it is rather than skipping huge portions of it only to then constantly complain with huge posts that Brion isn't TTGLing, politicizing, and troping Flipside to your tastes? TTGL is a shounen, and if you had to similarly classify Flipside it would be a seinen. Therefore TTGL's heavily shounen aspects are not something you should expect in Flipside.
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