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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2018, 08:41:42 pm »
They ALL gonna need some serious therapy...if they get out of this...  I feel worse for poor Moby!

It's an actual rule of fiction. There's no therapists.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThereAreNoTherapists
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2018, 07:33:29 am »
So this pit turned into big blender/meat processor?
Ouch.
In the end Vennice got better fate than Buzz as endings go for sides.

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2018, 05:01:34 am »
It's a garbage collector sink thingy.

If I had to say, I'd say it's mostly her depression. She wants to kill herself and pretty sure her friends are untrustworthy now.

Remember, the number is 1-800-273-8255.

In term of what seem like the natural defenses of the pit, probably turning from flat ground into a pit (usually enough to make most people fall to their doom), eating artifacts, and priestmonster that keeps coming back. The whole spikes popping out of the wall, the fell of rising tide, that the guy was able to pop up from nowhere and eat the stretcher bed, the skeletons, and the blender probably not.

For one, some of these things contradict certain things. For instance, if you have a blender, you probably don't have skeletons, since the blender grinds stuff up. And it seemed like the pit was more a darkness that swallowed stuff up, not a grindinv machine. It was more about negativity and not supposed to be about punishment. And then there's the clear contradiction of the wall spike being active while the music was melting some faces. That pretty much reveals a second force immune to the music.

The question is, does Crest wanna talk to her and try to cheer her up, or is Melter wrong about it being a bad idea to put her in the pit and things will be better off without her?
"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2018, 08:21:28 pm »
In my opinion, this is the most graphic Flipside arc, and that's saying a lot. No offense, because the tension is obviously very high here... 😋

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2018, 10:59:07 am »
...does it make me a total perv and sicko ..that I find Moby even sexier spattered with a bit of blood? :)
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2018, 12:58:54 pm »
Why it's important to pay attention to details.

May's hand that got regrown, was done by "mirroring". But what about Glyph's legs (and whatever else got gobbled by the Pit)? If he does survive, he'll be a complete wreck. I'm not sure they'll be able to regrow what he's got, so they'd have to do a Six Million Dollar Man thing on this guy just to get him to walk right. 
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2018, 11:18:45 am »
Yep, Glyph...soon to be only a head, left arm and a few right hand finger-tips.  Not much to mirror with that!

The Question is... 'Is this all a horrid Dream sequence that Only Crest is experiencing?'
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2018, 09:40:42 pm »
And now for another graphic blood-splosion of viscera, limbs and crimson all over the mostly naked and shapely Moby... oh.. and one shredded eyepatch....
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2018, 10:57:11 pm »
AAaaannnd ~ "Chunky Salsa!"
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2018, 03:20:47 pm »
Goodbye Glyph. I hardly knew you....  :(

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2018, 03:19:44 am »
I really like this scene a lot, because it hit me so differently compared to Suspiria's outburst. You see, Moby once again couldn't control her emotions as if she didn't go through any professional Phalanx training whatsoever, and pushed Suspiria over the edge instead of realizing that our precious glass cannon needed support and comfort or else! So I felt really really bad for poor Suspiria and I'm still hoping against hope that she can somehow return.
But Moby can go to hell! And everyone else who didn't try to stop her can go with her (i.e. everyone besides Crest and Regina). Nobody had any sense of danger whatsoever even though they've been inspecting one of the most dangerous places in the world. So of course they got Worfed really hard from the beginning to the end. At least Crest realized that he was in way over his head after the sphere unworfed him from a dumb Phalanx person back to a sensible human being.

Thus I'm currently just relaxing and enjoying the show instead of being caught up in the intense drama that's happening.  ;D
Let's find out who's next to be torn to pieces!

As a side note:
Does the Phalanx not have access to Anti Magic spheres and other convenient gadgets that just might come in handy for inspecting - oh I don't know - only one of the most dangerous and highly magical places on this side of the world?
A scouting/scrying spell maybe? Or Q'Talda's clone spell? But hey, who needs to learn from another's experience on how to survive if you're an elite soldier, right? :P
Also if I were in charge of such a prison then the very bricks of all floors, walls and ceilings would be made of "Strong Anti-Magic sphere"-material. Or as much as the budget allows. Maybe find a way to suck away their energy... wait. Is that what the pit was originally for?

edit: Ok I forgot the walls are indeed heavily anti-sorcery. http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3273
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2018, 08:22:53 am »
Quote from: bulmabriefs144
The question is, does Crest wanna talk to her and try to cheer her up,
Wait, that's still an option?

AAaaannnd ~ "Chunky Salsa!"
Dude, your posts are hilarious! ;D
I admit that there is a sexiness to bloody Moby. That's all she seems to be good for.  ::) Though personally I find Bloody Mary and Suspiria way hotter, because they're super strong but their personalities are so adorable. Moby's polar opposite, basically.  8)

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2018, 11:37:11 am »
Oooooh, page 33 just went up! ^^
Yes yes oh god yes kill her kill her!!! ;D ;D ;D

I don't understand why Melter is just floating there, letting Shade holding him despite her losing strength. Can't they just fly up and out? If so, then he has some serious balls for staying in there anyway. And why doesn't he cling to a wall to reduce the burden on Shade? Such a weird guy.

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2018, 12:58:37 pm »
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The question is, does Crest wanna talk to her and try to cheer her up,
Wait, that's still an option?


I know she went all "stony faced", but there's a good chance she can still see and hear. The sword itself may also have an impact. We do see Crest reaching for it a few scenes earlier. The tone of this is sorta like 3rd phase of Dark Cell but for us and for most of a chapter though. Here's hope someone does something.
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #44 on: Today at 03:11:17 am »
Is there a way we can get these two latest pages as one? It really has that double-page spread feel.