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Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 06, 2017, 11:03:02 am »
This is the discussion thread for Chapter 48: The Eye of the Storm.  That's right, we get another chapter with this Dark Cell stuff, so you don't have to wait!  Who is this Eye girl?  Is stuff gonna happen?  Tune in to find out!

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2017, 12:10:40 pm »
ugh, i'm gonna end up sympathizing with yet another weirdo, eh? let's get this over with quickly.

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2017, 01:04:43 pm »
Maybe I should change the name of Flipside to "Sympathy for the Wierdos"

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 05:45:35 pm »
But what about Crest? We miss... actually, I'm not that interested in him.
"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2017, 09:44:02 pm »
So.. Yeah, page 2 really clears things right up then. Totally makes sense now. Yep, clear as daylight... Ok, I'm actually even more confused.

Also, what if the Billy Idol song "Eye's Without a Face" is actually a reference to these two characters? "Eye" and "without a face"

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 07:18:10 am »
Am i only the one who noticed that eye cleared the cookies but said nothing about the tea?

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 10:05:32 am »
Eye is the girl.

"Come to the dark side. We have cookies." Made apparently out of thin air.
"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2017, 08:08:39 am »
The cat then. My point still stands.

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 12:15:10 pm »
Eye looks like she's gonna choke on her cookies at that last bit.  ;D
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 06:57:57 am »
... and these two have WHAT to do with the qualia or the source of magic?!?!
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 09:15:55 am »
Maybe the cat is the source of magic?

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2017, 03:36:55 am »
Cat is A source of magic. Not THE source of magic. Important dinstinction. Read her name. Cybele Surrogate 3. She is a surrogate for Cybele, one of (at least) three. Cybele, may be THE source of magic. CS3 is just a surrogate.
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2017, 05:45:28 am »
Hmmm... "normal human desires...", does that include...  :-*
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2017, 09:11:06 am »
Probably.

I'm just finding it extremely interesting the idea of her heading into a shopping center.  :'(

She will literally have to move about constantly, or have people get PTSD from her presence.

:fear, pain, horrible images: "Hi, I'd like a pastry." (walks away) :horrible images, pain, fear:
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2017, 04:43:21 pm »
I think cat is about to reveal what a huge masochist Maytag is. Also, what's with the nose?

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2017, 08:23:23 pm »
Really?  :o

It's a culture reference. Pinocchio?

(You were joking, right?)

Or he's about to reveal how odd it was that she was able to analyze all of this in such a short amount of time.

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2017, 07:27:16 am »
Really?  :o

It's a culture reference. Pinocchio?

(You were joking, right?)

Or he's about to reveal how odd it was that she was able to analyze all of this in such a short amount of time.
::)
Yeah, just that the pinocchio thing makes 0 sense to me in this context. She's smug, and she really is amazing, so why the nose thing? Plus, its a sudden change of comic style, which is just odd (ie up to now there were never such "facial expressions" in the comic). Whatev, just found it strange, personally.
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2017, 08:24:08 am »
I think it's because she was taking credit for something that was ultimately a gamble. It's entirely possible that it still wouldn't have worked, and with the knife in hand, that might've been the end of her.

Maybe the implication here is that May doesn't feel amazing, but is taking credit for it anyway.

She might also ask about some third thing. Memories, senses, ummm was there another one?

Update: Oh right, emotions. This kinda goes into an interesting line of questioning. She basically is a masochist, so yeah she enjoys pain. But here's the odd thing. It's a logical trap.

  • Maytag, as part of her natural state, has learned to accept pain. She basically, on some level, enjoys it. This, however, is a conscious preference, built upon smaller unconscious past issues.
  • She has entered an area that steals memories and distorts senses. Normally, something that she has learned to love would not be retained, because whatever past events would also be wiped out. That is, the acceptance technique is a learned skill, so it gets wiped out.
  • Since the acceptance technique is gone, she should not be smiling. In fact, either she is numb as a result of being in agony and not remembering how to use her technique, or she is able to feel things and as a result could be affected by the despair.
  • These two are apparently mutually exclusive. That is, if she was in such pain that despair could not touch her, she should be unable to smile.
  • That she was able to smile effectively means she maintained a sense of herself despite the effect of the Storm supposedly draining out her memories. This should be impossible.

We have a seen people with magic, and we have seen those altered by Thin Man, and we have seen people with natural special abilities. In the bed & breakfast, she was able to resist a charm effect, even while being immersed in a liquid. That is, she has physiological as well as psychological resistance to certain magical effects. I wonder if there is something more to this, though?
 

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2017, 09:13:35 am »
Yeah, just that the pinocchio thing makes 0 sense to me in this context. She's smug, and she really is amazing, so why the nose thing? Plus, its a sudden change of comic style, which is just odd (ie up to now there were never such "facial expressions" in the comic). Whatev, just found it strange, personally.

Yeah it was meant to show her being smug.  Not sure where I came up with this idea, it just felt right at the time.

(Actually I think I got it from Ibuki from Danganronpa 2.)

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2017, 07:02:27 pm »
I can only imagine Corona being here in May's place like: "I spent 7 years of my life... for this?!" prior to having a nervous breakdown. Why isn't May asking where they keep the Qualias?

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2017, 05:20:00 am »
But what about Crest? We miss... actually, I'm not that interested in him.

Mwaaa... I like Crest he's like the 'straight-guy' in the who bag of loveable weidos! :)

But man... Maytag is a strange woman.. but damn, I'd bet she'd be a real handful in the sack! :)
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2017, 10:12:25 pm »
Yeah, I think the pointy nose thing is a Japanese media trope, but I can't quite remember where it came from...

But y'know, brainwashing yourself for fun and profit, good times.

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2017, 06:21:10 am »
I know she was pranking us, but on some level, I get the impression this is true. That there is something about her that is outside of limits.
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2017, 03:25:59 pm »
I'm sorry but when I saw that perfect placement of the keenspot ad on this page XD

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2017, 08:43:46 pm »
I thought the little girl WAS dangerous...

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2017, 07:07:30 pm »
Go Maytag!  I love this character.  This page reminded me of when her arm got eaten off!!!

haha "Who cares about risks?"

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2017, 05:35:29 pm »
Uh oh. Time to kill the kitten.  :'(
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2017, 01:59:03 am »
I'm assuming that since the Eye is moving, so is the chaos. We just haven't seen it yet...

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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2017, 05:53:04 am »
OH Shit....!!!!
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Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2017, 11:47:19 am »
If she's walking towards her, will it just kinda nudge her back or will she be able to pass through?
"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."
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—Edward D. Morrison