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« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2015, 10:41:50 am »
2. Bernadette(Colosseum Storyarc)

I so wont to See Berd shock everyone those assfaces!

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2015, 11:55:29 am »
The totals so far (as of this post:)

Crest: 20
Maytag: 21
Bernadette: 65

Not surprising at all, but still it's interesting to see who everyone is voting for and their reasons.

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« Reply #122 on: February 23, 2015, 12:39:01 pm »
Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

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« Reply #123 on: February 23, 2015, 02:26:32 pm »
Pretty sure Bern is gonna win but I'm still going to cast my vote for Crest because I like him and I'd like to see how he grows and develops.
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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #124 on: February 23, 2015, 03:11:42 pm »
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

Yeah, I know Bernadette's going to win the vote, but...I really want to know what happens with Dark Cell.  Sure, Bernadette ended on a cliffhanger, but while I want to see the fight, I have no idea what direction Brion is going with Dark Cell and I'm tired of waiting to find out ;-)

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #125 on: February 23, 2015, 03:30:52 pm »
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

We haven't seen enough Maytag lately! Although Bernadette's cliffhanger has me tugging my beard out.

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #126 on: February 23, 2015, 03:39:03 pm »
Go for Bern, want to see her let go and take them on for a change instead of being on the defensive.
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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #127 on: February 23, 2015, 03:58:09 pm »
Bernadette

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #128 on: February 23, 2015, 05:06:02 pm »
2. Bernadette

If you please.

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #129 on: February 23, 2015, 05:18:33 pm »
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
Although I love Bernadette, and the cliffhanger is tense, Maytag is a great character and I'm curious to see how she'll get out of her predicament. Also, to be honest, this Bernadette story arc hasn't been all that interesting for me.

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« Reply #130 on: February 23, 2015, 09:00:43 pm »
2.) Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

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« Reply #131 on: February 23, 2015, 11:21:24 pm »
My vote has to go for who's the furthest behind. Somewhere down the road they all need to meet again. Have they all kept up, chronologically?

If they're all still lined up in time, then I would have to vote for Maytag.

This isn't out of any specific interest in her, though. I find all three arcs to be interesting, and I'm pretty sure there's a special section in hell for cliffhangers like this one (sorry Brian!). I do, however, have an idea of how hard it can be to plan a story out and, with no indication of how far ahead this is planned, I would have to say that keeping the status quo would probably be best suited to avoiding having to play catch up.

As an added bonus, by holding out on the fight a little longer (as much as it hurts) we can know we're going to get more story when we come back to Bern later on.

As a side option: All three! It might be interesting to see how Brian would handle a chapter split across multiple arcs.
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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #132 on: February 23, 2015, 11:32:44 pm »
We're in the tail of the buildup to the climax of the current arc (of which the Colosseum is but a sub-arc) and that strikes me as a very poor choice for the location of a cliffhanger.

Actually, it's a pretty good place.  A poor choice for a cliffhanger would be when a storyline has wrapped up.  Anyplace that "leaves you hanging" is by definition a good place for a cliffhanger.  Not that I mind if people would rather see Bernadette's story continue.
It is by definition a cliffhanger, but I've never been a fan of "lurch" cliffhangers. The literal cliff hanger? Those are fine because something just happened and you're anxious to see the outcome. Generally after wrapping something up, like a chase sequence or otherwise attention grabbing.
What happened here is like the getaway vehicle being spotted by the cops and freezing on the foot an inch from the gas pedal.

What I'm getting at is that it's less of an enjoyable cliff to be hanging from. Right after the bargaining would have been great, right after the fight probably will be as well. When we've wrapped up something but still have unresolved story threads to leave us wondering what will happen in the next arc that deals with these characters.

I'm interested in what is going to happen next to Maytag because we stopped at a lull in the "action" where the next actions are both obvious in direction and mysterious in scope and execution. Here it's more "there's going to be a fight". While that is fun to watch, it just strikes me as a sub-optimal place to put a cliff to be hanging from when A) The previous plot line was a bit over-extended seeming and B) there were "better" places to stop the story.

Obviously it's a matter of personal opinion, I'm just trying to help you understand why I have the opinion I do :-)

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #133 on: February 24, 2015, 12:25:28 am »
Bern!  After all that talk of who will be the sex slave, and what option is worse (got old after a week), things are finally starting to get interesting again. 

In my opinion, the cliffhanger can be in the middle of the fight, but not here.  We were patient too long and should at least see a short bit of the fight scene before Maytag gets her turn again.

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #134 on: February 24, 2015, 01:42:42 am »
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

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« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2015, 06:38:05 am »
Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

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« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2015, 06:49:36 am »
I'm actually more interested in Crest.

Maytag with likely get through her fear, possibly offscreen, only explaining in flashback how she did it. I don't see her as being a "dedication" type, but I do see her as having a great deal of drive for the short haul. That said, she might just say "#*%$ it" to an effort that is getting her nowhere, ask for her dimension bag back and leave. May would probably be my first choice, though, I'm just picking Crest to have a change of pace.

Based on what we know of Bernadette, based on what I know of the reality of this world as explained by Thin Man, I have a good theory of what happens next (now that I say this, our creator will likely try to Joss said theory). We know that the world isn't actually as it seems, that monsters called Qualia maintain the illusion called magic. We know that these swords are somehow toxic to magic, but if magic doesn't exist, this means that antimagic is not actually a type of magic (as in the sword is not "enchanted" with magic destruction, so the original assessment of it being a sort of "hypocrisy" might be off), but rather an energy (the swords might operate on a sort of EMP burst that shocks Qualia) or substance that allows the user to see the world or touch the world of the Qualia, possibly slashing them in midair or something.

Now, Bernadette could try hard to be something she's not, overcoming the "coddling" as the warden says. But I don't think she's gonna fight in the conventional sense anyway. And I think she is fine as is, actually at an advantage because she feels guilty and depressed.

Let me explain. Remember how with one sword, she was unable to block magic? It was because she was actively trying to survive. She was also because of that seeing the world as a world of magic. That is, she was actively playing by the rules of such a world. On the other hand, here, her feelings are raw and honest, and rather than a survival instinct, she will fight exactly according to her style. That is, she is in the right mindset to attack something besides conventional enemies. Which brings us to Bern's character.

Bern has a direct, functional style of sword fighting, more suitable for slashing objects or killing monsters, than cutting at humans. It is the same style she should be using to view the world, as something that is just a smoke and mirrors to be cut apart, revealing the truth. Normally, her survival instinct would kick in, as I say, and she'd be like "I've gotta survive against the magic/weapons etc." Instead, she is like "I don't care." Because or this, she can actually unconsciously transcend the "magic" of the Qualia and start to notice things don't add up.

Now, on the other hand, we have the three thugs she's against. As the warden said, these three have probably had this very drive to survive. Where has this led them? Well, naturally, they learned any techniques they could to win. That is, cheap tricks. Their power is based on magic, on smoke and mirrors, on appearing to have an edge. For most people, yes, the warden would be right, and she would lose. But she is wielding the exact best weapon against such things. The truth. The first one True Strike, is probably rather strong, but it looked like his sword in the last comic was possibly either getting his own magic boost (something like a Bless Self spell) or was itself a magic sword. Low Blow sounds like his fighting style is like Maytag's, using magic weapons and tools to quickly get the drop on people. And the Blue Fire sounds like a straight up mage.

In all likelihood, how this would go down, assuming she figures out how to properly use the swords? An embarrassing curb stomp battle, possible ending with all opponents completely disarmed and Bern walking away without having spilled a drop of blood.

Yea... as satisfying as that scene might be, that was alot of buildup for what might be little actual fighting.

In a side note, that was almost more padding and filler than the Naruto anime series.   
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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2015, 06:54:13 am »
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I wanna know what happens with Maytag as well, but I think it would be weird to go to another character then come back to the fight scene. It's just better to at least begin the battle before moving on to a more psychological conflict like in Dark Cell or Crest's arc.

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« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2015, 06:56:26 am »
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

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« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2015, 07:13:12 am »
Not surprising at all, but still it's interesting to see who everyone is voting for and their reasons.

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #140 on: February 24, 2015, 12:16:55 pm »
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

I really want to know what happens in the other story lines but I miss Crest and need some closure.

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« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2015, 06:25:24 pm »
i guess it all depends on what is coming.  if bern is going to win easily due to her swords, without any real character development or growth, then someone else (i'm used to cliffhangers, and it isn't like things aren't waiting to progress in the other story lines).  may is in a similar boat, but there is the whole nature of magic thing (and thus we learn more about the world), which makes it more appealing.  crest seems to be at a cross roads, and thus may be the more interesting person to watch, but he might not really be at a crossroads, so he might be the most boring to watch.  watching 20 days of polly being a sex slave doesn't seem to be the comics style, and if it was interesting then it would be a whole story thread of it's own (far more adult than the rest of the comic to boot).  while i'd love to see porn with a quality story line and the level of out of the box thinking that the twilight zone had, i just don't think the world is ready for such.

so in short i'd say - whatever you think it should be.

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2015, 07:42:30 pm »
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Because I've been sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens!

My next option would be Crest, because we don't see much of him and I liked Suspira. :)

Not that I don't like Maytag, but I'm ready for Bern, Crest, then her :D

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2015, 01:19:32 am »
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

This choice shouldn't be surprising cause the actual chapter while getting heavy into the psychological state of the characters during the conversations doesn't deliver actually any kind of fights when the actual special swords would be used, I have to admit that when I was hyped for Bern fights in the colosseum, I wanted to see her fight random opponents and use different tactic and grow up as a knight and warrior in her new style to defeat them and also to adjust, or team up with Polly against stronger opponents, that is what I'm lacking the most, would you guys like "Gladiator" movie if all it had was just talk without arena fights?
I wouldn't.

And I hate cliffangers like that when the chapter goes down and down with the negativity I fell for the characters used, I really got disappointed in how Bern acted and that she allowed once again for Polly to take the bullet meant for her, I know love is a strange thing, but again if Bern really loved May so much she would never choose option 1 to cheat on her morally wise(but like we see from May past chapter she was willing to do the same to see Bern so maybe that's why author used such plot point) and if Bern was so morally pure like Polly seems to think, then Bern would never throw Polly under the bus for her own personal gain of having a possibility to fight to see May further; where you don't see any light and the plot gets just more heavier with each page, I simply want to see some light for Bern out of that situation.

And I want to see anger, really it's a shame that Bern doesn't know that all of this was just arranged, that no matter what option she would choose, she would be set up for a match to get killed, I just want to see her waking up and finally trying to fight for her own survival, what Warden said that option 1 would harden Bern, well I don't think so it would work like that, it would make her more depressed and emotionally wrecked seeing who Bern is, and Warden should know that not everyone reacts the same way. I'm quite curious to see how this will go, for me there's no way she can win this fight staying morally good with her own set of rules, she should really grow up and see that the world is ugly place and she needs to react in proper way for it, for all people, not only for monsters or people who want to hurt her close ones.

Polly screaming the things she learned from Warden and also begging Bern that her own sacrifice would not go to waste might be the way to shake Bern here. Or maybe the father will try to react...
The thing is that as we see the male warrior is stronger than Bern, the woman I would say is faster, and the older guy is for sure more experienced in battle and tactics used, if three of them would work together Bern has zero chance, her only chance is to eliminate them one vs one, before they would learn what hit them.

And big plea for the author if you will ever make Crest chapter, please make him experience at least half of shitty things May and Bern get all the time, and make his choices have some negative consequences for him too(because I'm really find it unfair that Bern for saving her father gets such plot and Crest for saving his mother gets magical sword, beats thugs right and left and gets fangirls), and also put him in some very uncomfortable fanservice situation like May and also Bern were put already, I just want to see some equality in treatment of main characters and that even if he is a guy he too can get similiar treatment as female characters get ;D

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #144 on: February 25, 2015, 02:56:00 pm »
Bernadette

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« Reply #145 on: February 25, 2015, 02:58:54 pm »
Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #146 on: February 25, 2015, 06:50:19 pm »
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I registered just to vote. I've been following Flipside for years, and the Colosseum arc is one of my favorites. Please continue it! I would love to see the Maytag/Dark Cell arc afterwards, as that's also a very compelling storyline. :)

I second that motion if it has not been seconded before. it does seem to be the majority vote though I notice.
I wanna see the fight now after all that's happened. there is going to be so much amazing stuff with maytag now it might kinda make the whole coliseum thing seem kinda like meh. I dont want that to happen. I want to feel the amazement you've been building up till now... be a bit awestruck maybe. then put the next chapter with May since we all want to know how far she's gotten or not gotten while bern's been in madtown coliseumville...lol. and I'm intrigued about where  the crest line is going also so I think it will be a nice change of pace to follow back up with him after all that. but the fight is really what needs to be seen now I think. So much has become so serious so quickly. I guess if you think we need some comic relief then go with Maytag cuz while her's is serious she's always got a humor along side it all to keep us laughing. my vote is still To finish with bern for now though.
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« Reply #147 on: February 25, 2015, 08:41:42 pm »
2 Please! I can't wait to see the fight!  @.@
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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #148 on: February 26, 2015, 04:30:31 am »
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

To me, it's pretty obvious how the fight is going to go. While I'm eager to see Bern swallow all of her self-doubt and pity and start kicking some arse, I'm actually more curious of what's going to happen with Crest and Suspira. I thought they made a cute couple before she was transformed and I hope things work out so that they can be together again.

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Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« Reply #149 on: February 26, 2015, 08:06:34 am »
Maytag.

Ppl! the world might not even exist! She might get to the end of Dark Cell and find out they're all living in the Matrix and Keannu Reeves is there complete with his fully rounded acting range and Suspiria is just an Agent.

Sorry, but the Bern storyline has trapped itself. Since death is the result of failure, success is pretty much the only option.

Let's move on to solve the riddle of Thin Man and that creepy Marcie person / it.