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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2018, 12:33:41 pm »
Moby, why do you say you're no good at flying magic? You have a flying carpet and you did carry yourself AND Crest in search for Suspiria.
Also: Why didn't you bring it with you? Eh, nevermind, the Phalanx in general didn't seem to think about bringing all kinds of magical gadgets with them.

She's a seamstress. She moves the thread, she doesn't levitate anything. Also, her carpet kinda got eaten.

Welp, that's it. Crest got 51 chapters, but Brion must be doing a Kill Em' All Tomino thing. Maybe.
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2018, 10:44:28 am »
So Ladies and Gentlemen, Crest was saved by literal ASSPULL  :o
 :P

So now I wonder if every other one will get similiar treatment or stay dead, but as I understand the setting and how magic fueled by some nanomachines in reality works, you can't revive a person whose brain died for too long or was minced, so that should be rather impossible.
But then we have Bloody Mary so who knows...

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2018, 11:38:37 pm »
Alright, things are really starting to look up now.
Next page: Regina or Moby gets stabbed and Melter's friend has to start all over again.

@Bulma: Oh, I didn't know magic was that specific, but I guess it makes enough sense. Was her carpet eaten in this chapter? Because if not then I'd wonder why she didn't have a bunch in reserve.
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2018, 12:29:27 am »
Okay, now that we know there's no way out the situation looks positively dire. Soooooo... another space-time-rewind, Melter? How about taking Suspiria with you through space-time and letting the "Phalanx" do another "investigation" that'll let them return empty-handed?
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2018, 07:01:03 am »
So Ladies and Gentlemen, Crest was saved by literal ASSPULL  :o

That sounds gross!

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2018, 05:46:13 am »
So Ladies and Gentlemen, Crest was saved by literal ASSPULL  :o

That sounds gross!

I don't know... I'm sure Moby would let Crest 'pull her ass' into just the right position... and enjoy every moment of it!  :-*
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2018, 04:44:24 am »
Looks like that thing is enjoying itself seeing its food struggle. I don't have any other explanation as to why there aren't any more spikes coming out of the walls or skeletons coming from the pit. There should even be two new ones available by now. 8)

Also if the sword's healing power doesn't work, then maaaaybe paralysis will do something? I mean, if the whole pit is powered by that thing, maybe the rotating blades will stop and everyone can drop down safely and explore it?
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2018, 05:39:17 am »
I could be mistaken, but I don't think I've ever seen Crest looking so determined!  He looks like an honest-to-goodness badass!

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2018, 09:23:01 am »
Yep, ever since that sphere broke and that dude played the song he reverted back to being confident. But I'm still not sure if he reverts to becoming Kin again, because he looks more emotional than in the previous chapters.

Btw: I just remembered that resurrection is a thing in this world (from the prison arc where Bern's not-girlfriend got fatally poisoned), so if the crew goes to the bottom of the pit, maybe they can take home the remains they may or may not find. But meh, they're just Phalanx, so who actually cares? ::)
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2018, 01:34:58 pm »
I think that thing is bluffing. I think it knows it can be hurt, and is trying to scare Crest into not even trying to fight back....  ;D

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2018, 08:10:01 am »
If that thing were scared it would've killed Crest as quickly as it did away with Buzz when he dared to play that song that made all the skeletons disappear.

Oh well, I guess we'll soon find out how immortal that thing really is. Let's see if that sword can do this to him: http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2016/08/01/0808-the-divine-comedy-page-6/
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2018, 12:38:44 pm »
If that thing were scared it would've killed Crest as quickly as it did away with Buzz when he dared to play that song that made all the skeletons disappear.
Or, maybe you should add, just attack immediately without saying a word? Nah, the thing knows that the sword can hurt him, possibly if Crest can strike him in a certain place. He's just hoping Crest won't realize it, or do so accidently....

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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2018, 03:45:28 am »
Do I need to add that? I thought I covered that with my quoted statement. Unless you wanted me to write "killed Crest as quickly or faster than it did away with Buzz".

Whether or not that thing knows, I guess we'll find out. Either way it's not scared of the sword. But if immobility is really going to happen to it, then I don't believe it knows about that ability, because otherwise it would be stupid to let Crest get so close.
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2018, 05:27:53 am »
You guys are missing something key here. Brion's work seems big on symbolic imagery. It's not really religious (I think Brion was on record once saying he doesn't believe in gods, meaning anything from a Buddhist or Taoist mindset, to nontraditional belief, to agnostic, to atheist) so much as a sort of powerful imagery.

There are things in our lives that are immortal. What is the first thing coming to mind? Depression. No matter how many times, it always comes back. People with other difficult to solve disorders like mania or hallucinations probably feel the same. 

This is not to say that Crest can solve their problems by therapy. It's saying the same approach works. How do you deal with something immortal? Well for the long term you figure out its source of power. Only something that truly is a deity is self-powered, everything else that is immortal has some Achilles Heel (like they have to feed regularly, or they need people there to remember them, or they're allergic to milk (who knows what movie I'm talking about)). Maybe a final boss type deal, getting rid of the evil thing in our life that won't go away. But for the short term, the solution to such a creature is one of three things: get past it, trap it (sealing is a big option in games like Final Fantasy V), and strip it of its power (the last of these sometimes overlaps with a permanent solution, unless it is able to regain power).

Update: Everyone watch the anime Lost Song. It gives very good insight on what it's like to be immortal.
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Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2018, 04:35:13 am »
Hmmm... what you Might Seem to suggest Bulma, is that the pit is something like a metaphorical nightmare made reality... an immortal fear?

Could that be Suspiria's manifested fear?  That would suggest the best way to defeat it would be for Crest to declare his love for Suspiria and tell her she does not have to be afraid... she is not alone, and she is NOT a monster ~ Wake up!


And oh dear... I'm not sure I can watch... I HATE Slasher flicks... I really do not like to see young women savaged or hurt... let alone butchered... it REALLY Angers that 'old-fashioned' chivalrous hero complex I have inside.

Oh and yeah UmberIsSexy... I agree Crest looks total badass...{ Smile}... I definitely approve of how he's developed!
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