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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #90 on: February 28, 2010, 07:21:03 pm »
A disturbing thought occurs to me. What if "the Thin Man" isn't just one person, but is in fact, the name of an organization? The way Melter told Bloody Mary that "we consider you a breakthrough" hints at that. The fact that everyone in the organization would refer to "thin man" as "he" is a well used red herring designed to confuse victims and authorities alike and has been rather successful in concealing many organizations.

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #91 on: February 28, 2010, 08:00:02 pm »
Well, I think Danzig referred to "The Thin Man" as him when Crest mentioned him.  We have aired thoughts that it could be an organisation rather than a single being, but its hard to say yet with so little information.  Now that Moss and Fata are apparently on our hero's side they might reveal some information about the enigmatic figure.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #92 on: February 28, 2010, 09:19:53 pm »
I'm pretty sure the "Thin Man" is an individual, who is no doubt the head of his own organization of minions or apprentices or whatever. Melter seems like price material for a "right hand man".

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2010, 11:16:43 pm »
Has anyone yet actually put on their Salvador Limones accent and said "Who is the thin man, I wonder, and how does he fit into this sinister puzzle?"

Because if not, that would be a real shame...
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #94 on: March 01, 2010, 02:09:05 am »
Well in that case how about modifying the "They, who are they" speech from The Wild Bunch  :)
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2010, 05:43:33 am »
The "organization stuff" is a legit guess, in my opinion. However, as Charles said, we don't really have enough information to intelligently speculate anything about so-called the thin man. Right now, based on what we know, it has an equal likelihood of being a giant purple dinosaur as, well, just some "man" who happens to be "thin".  :'(
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #96 on: March 01, 2010, 03:23:49 pm »
OH GOD IT'S BARNEY! ARGHHHHHHHHH!

Is anyone else disappointed with the placement of the 2nd speech bubble in the 4th panel of today's page?

This whole warp-box/dimensional-bag thing makes you wonder just how big Maytag's bag is... It also makes you wonder if there's someone who has the power to summon whatever's inside it *lol*.

Actually it only just dawned on me with what Maytag said in that last panel.  The forest prison where they kept her is still inside the Dimensional bag.  Moss said that she never left it and seemed to note that there was only a single door in and out which is presumably back at the castle.  Well, there's only three doors we haven't looked behind now.  Two down in the Lobby and one at the end of the hall Maytag just walked from... Actually, if Bern's stuff is still in the bathroom and the room she was staying in then I guess she can go collect all of that now... including the anti-magick sword.  Maytag's own gear would still be in her own dimensional bag which I presume has been taken off her since she hasn't summoned her jester suit or anything to help her.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #97 on: March 01, 2010, 08:12:34 pm »
AHA! I think I found Maytag's dimensional bag

http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=830

I'm pretty sure thats it on the bedside table at the far right of Panel 1.  I'm pretty sure Bern and Suspira didn't have a purse like that (Suspira wouldn't need it with her own DBag anyway).  But its been mentioned that Maytag can make her DBag appear and disappear from her body and I'm pretty sure that purse from the beginning of Book 1 was it: http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/book0/fs01pg03.html
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #98 on: March 02, 2010, 04:30:58 am »
I like this strip. :-*

It's so nice when someone in-canon shows surprise at the awesomeness that is magic. I know that if we lived with magic, instead of technology, we would only show fascination with it if we learned the bizarre theories / science behind it or if it was a type of magic new to them, like we see here, but it still is nice to see a character share the audience's reaction to something that is, let's be honest, pretty fucking cool.  :D
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #99 on: March 02, 2010, 11:54:28 am »
OH GOD IT'S BARNEY! ARGHHHHHHHHH!

Is anyone else disappointed with the placement of the 2nd speech bubble in the 4th panel of today's page?

This whole warp-box/dimensional-bag thing makes you wonder just how big Maytag's bag is... It also makes you wonder if there's someone who has the power to summon whatever's inside it *lol*.

Actually it only just dawned on me with what Maytag said in that last panel.  The forest prison where they kept her is still inside the Dimensional bag.  Moss said that she never left it and seemed to note that there was only a single door in and out which is presumably back at the castle.  Well, there's only three doors we haven't looked behind now.  Two down in the Lobby and one at the end of the hall Maytag just walked from... Actually, if Bern's stuff is still in the bathroom and the room she was staying in then I guess she can go collect all of that now... including the anti-magick sword.  Maytag's own gear would still be in her own dimensional bag which I presume has been taken off her since she hasn't summoned her jester suit or anything to help her.
I don't think that the forest is actually part of the portal box. I think that the area that includes the portal and bridge and forest are either a spot in the real world, kind of like a "double bind" to foil people trying to chase the Thin Man's minions back to the castle, or just illusionary forest. An actual living forest would either imply a miniature sun  :o to keep the plants healthy or, well, magic plants that don't require sunlight:-\
We haven't met any characters who have been shown to have powers related to growing plants magically or summoning extra-planar plants, so that area's scenery is in all likelihood illusory, in my opinion. 
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2010, 05:18:34 am »
Well, there is indeed some kind of magical light source that has not been seen throughout the whole "warp box." The hallway has no windows, there are no lamps, none of the characters is holding a torch, and yet everything is well-lit. We did not see the "sky" in the "forest," so we can't even be sure if there even IS a "sun." Plants will grow in artificial light. So.... it is PLAUSIBLE that the forest IS part of the "warp box." Maytag's reaction is quite normal, tbh. Even though she's quite familiar with the workings of sorcery, the sheer scale of this construct SHOULD inspire awe.

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #101 on: March 03, 2010, 06:14:01 am »
Really?  :o

I thought they only grew with a lot of light. I should ask my boyfriend or pot dealer friend about it. why do they have green houses then?
You could really grow a forest inside? Then why don't they do that more?
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2010, 02:30:51 pm »
Well. Someone has interesting tastes in porn.
Strange.  Don't most people keep theirs in a box under the bed and not in the hallway?

I don't get what you are talking about... seems I missed some background detail...

What page do you refer to? :?

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2010, 03:40:28 pm »
@Rava: They said that when Maytag was walking through the hall outside the room with balls and saw the naked pictures on the wall.

@RoninAngel: Well, It's like Hydroponics systems I guess.  You can grown things in sheds and underground (hell, even under the bed) with simple fluorescent lights.  I think UV lights work better, not sure on that.  I seem to recall reading somewhere that Marijuana grown in hydroponics is actually more potent than wild or garden grown for some reason (higher concentration of the active chemical in it).  The other one to remember I guess is that even if the light isn't as powerful, it's 24 hours a day as opposed to about 14 hours from sunlight.  But as Moss just pointed out, there's a lot of things the Thin Man can do that the Conclave apparently can't and if his experiments have been on living things then that may well have gone onto plants.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2010, 10:28:50 am »
this recent comic just made me realise just how cute maytag is  :-*

i'm still curious about moss' own reasons for helping maytag, or have i missed something?  :'(

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2010, 05:23:29 pm »
Nah, we can't be certain why he's helping her exactly.  He's stated that he does have his own reasons, so I suspect alterior motives, but its hard to say if those motives will hinder her or not.  The fact he's not telling her those motives could be indication that they will hinder them or that he has some other goal in mind that she wouldn't support if she knew of it (possibly something to do with "dark cell").

But he's said he'd help her and her friends and I'm thinking that Maytag would have picked up on that being a lie by now if he were misleading her that much.

I'm still a little uncertain about the exact situation they're in.  Danzig calls it a recruitment centre, Moss calls it a tourist trap where people go missing and he seems to know that The Thin Man experiments on people (or that he has a reputation for doing so).  Despite imprisonment and the like, it just leaves me in doubt as to how much danger they're in, if any at all.

P.S. Are they headed for the room with Maytag and Bern's gear?  Hopefully she'll be getting her stuff back soon.  Naked Maytag is all well and good but I'm just feeling like she's constantly vulnerable.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2010, 09:18:04 pm »
Nah, we can't be certain why he's helping her exactly.  He's stated that he does have his own reasons, so I suspect alterior motives, but its hard to say if those motives will hinder her or not.  The fact he's not telling her those motives could be indication that they will hinder them or that he has some other goal in mind that she wouldn't support if she knew of it (possibly something to do with "dark cell").

But he's said he'd help her and her friends and I'm thinking that Maytag would have picked up on that being a lie by now if he were misleading her that much.

I'm still a little uncertain about the exact situation they're in.  Danzig calls it a recruitment centre, Moss calls it a tourist trap where people go missing and he seems to know that The Thin Man experiments on people (or that he has a reputation for doing so).  Despite imprisonment and the like, it just leaves me in doubt as to how much danger they're in, if any at all.

P.S. Are they headed for the room with Maytag and Bern's gear?  Hopefully she'll be getting her stuff back soon.  Naked Maytag is all well and good but I'm just feeling like she's constantly vulnerable.


And the one arm doesn't help at all.  Makes it pretty awkward. :(

I have a joke about that. It's mean spirited and terrible but appropriate:
There's a guy walking on the beach. He sees a woman off in the distance, weeping. He runs over to her and sees that she is naked and has no arms or legs.
"Why are you crying?" he says.
"I'm... I'm just so lonely! Please Sir! Please,... will you fuck me?"
He picks her up and tosses her in the ocean and says "Now your fucked."
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2010, 11:25:54 pm »
About the Dark Cell, I think Mary has entered it. And once she got out, she was Bloody Mary. After all, after she encountered Melter, all she can remember before the transformation is darkness (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=676).

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2010, 11:42:27 pm »
Yeah, hard to tell if thats the Dark Cell or the erasure of her memories during that time, by the Thin Man.  See, if this is a recruitment center then possibly the idea is that they take in a new person, show them the "truth about the world" and then that person agrees to help them and undergo the experiments and transformations.  So maybe Bloody Mary wasn't an unwilling victim but a willing one who was left witless of her participation afterwards... Then again, as much as she might consent to being turned into a killing machine, I doubt she'd consent to being set upon her own parents.

...Unless they think this truth about the world is that the people in it are fake robots, all illusions or actually prisoners in some virtual reality who will somehow be released upon death.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #109 on: March 05, 2010, 06:14:17 pm »
Hmmmm, I guess Fata would have known how special the purse was after reading her mind... Moss might have known as well after spending some time with her.  I can easily imagine that they might have talked about magick and that she'd shown him her own D-Bag.

Maybe they didn't want her to get any magick items that could help her but she has Bern's magick sword and they'd have known about that... Actually Bern's normal swords are missing... They were leaned up against the bed

...actually is this the same room?  The painting is missing from the wall above the bedside drawers and those same drawers have straight handles instead of round ones... An illusion by Fata?

http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=830 - original room pic
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=953 - new room pic
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« Reply #110 on: March 05, 2010, 10:55:54 pm »
Well, moving right along. This is going far too well. I predict complications in 3... 2... 1...  :'(
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2010, 11:10:53 pm »
Well it's looking like we're switching to the others waiting in their own cell.  Crest is the only one dressed and will hopefully be able to tell us about what happened after Danzig commented that they were the "good guys" (which may be nothing more than a sleeping spell being cast on him).

The really interesting thing will be if Bern remembers what happened in the bath room.  I'm still betting that it was the real Glyph there and not an illusion. The question is, does Glyph work for these guys and was willingly trying to have his way with her or was he possessed?  If the previous possession with Regina is any indication then he should remember what happened regardless.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #112 on: March 06, 2010, 12:22:13 am »
Maybe they didn't want her to get any magick items that could help her but she has Bern's magick sword and they'd have known about that... Actually Bern's normal swords are missing... They were leaned up against the bed

...actually is this the same room?  The painting is missing from the wall above the bedside drawers and those same drawers have straight handles instead of round ones... An illusion by Fata?

Behold, through the magic of retroactive change, those things have all been fixed!  Wow!

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #113 on: March 06, 2010, 12:37:04 am »
BWAAAHAHAHHA *lol*  I think the comic erfworld refers to that as the magick field of Retconjuration

Ok, I guess its the same room then  :P

I love the additional detail of the one fata morgana twin/illusion carrying Bern's main swords for Maytag.

I'm going to guess that they stopped by the bathroom for Maytag's clothes and that she gathered Berns as well and packed 'em in her swag there... I suddenly recall that the magick sword was also enhanced to be extra light, so if she wanted to, I've no-doubt Maytag could easily swing it... wonder what it would do to the warp box and/or fata's illusions... They'd probably vanish just trying to pick it up.  Who knows, maybe a sorcerer wouldn't be capable of using magick if he was holding the sword... Which could be an interesting trick to pull if you fool them into picking up the sword or something.
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #114 on: March 07, 2010, 08:58:42 am »
Glyph is still unconscious. Crest is apparently respecting Bern's need for modesty and has his back turned despite having seen her naked before. (Perhaps he's afraid of getting his eyes gouged out.) If Glyph is part of the merry crew (willing or otherwise), why is he there where both Bern AND Crest can hurt him, a lot, and repeatedly as well as apparently locked inside? It seems no one has tested the door yet. There are many reasons why Maytag's purse is missing.

1.) Simple theft. Whoever took it know the Thin Man's rep and simply thought Maytag wasn't going to need it, or anything inside again.

2.) Whoever took it wanted to know more about "the recruit" and is currently examining the contents.

3.) It's all part of a standard disarm and capture ploy. Take all their stuff so they can't put up any resistance. Only problem with that is that Crest still has all his clothes. (As well as Suspira for that matter, although she's been fully drained of "essence.")

4.) This is indeed another room in the "warp box" and it only appears to be the room where she left her stuff. The clothes she now has on, may not even be hers!

5.) This could just be another trick/ illusion entirely, in this wonderful "fun" house rat maze.

I'm sure there are many more. Just out of curiousity, even with Moss' help, how does Maytag plan to help everyone? She's no match for Melter, let alone Melter, Danzig, the guy who sucked up Suspira's essence, etc. all at once!
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #115 on: March 07, 2010, 01:36:24 pm »
i am throughly annoyed at the normal maytag clothes. i want her jester suit back. or maybe moss is afraid she might get cocky? o:

sigh. maytag just doesn't suit being plain.

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #116 on: March 07, 2010, 03:14:34 pm »
@Tbeean: Yeah, I think in this entire book so far we've only seen Maytag in her Jester suit for 6 pages (Even though it was a Fata Morgana illusion, I count it).  Although we've probably seen more naked Maytag, and even Bern, than ever before ;D.  I think it makes up for it, but one chapter to go after this one so we might see her get back into it yet, either with a Fata Morgana illusion or by getting her stuff back.

@RoninA: Actually, I think Glyph might be awake now.  If you look at the last image of page 16, he's now lying with his arms behind his head and one knee raised under the sheets.  If he's even just a level 2 sorcerer I don't see much issue with him being in a room with a naked Bern and an unarmed Crest.  But if he is on their side then I'd imagine he's been given the same serum which suppressed Seraph's spirit essence from being used.

Also, if it was part of the standard disarm procedure then I'd have expected them to confiscate Bern's items from the room as well. Particularly with that magick sword which we can still see in the swag that Maytag's got now.

One possibility that's occurred to me... What if Crest had an opportunity to absorb it?  If he thought they were in trouble before searching for the seam in the staircase or if Danzig took him to the Girl's room before prison for some reason, he may have decided to take it.  But at this point, the proposal of simple THEFT makes the most sense considering how much money she had in there (not to mention, expensive magick items and potions).

P.S. They didn't leave Suspira with all her clothes, they stripped her down to her underware. http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=926
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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #117 on: March 07, 2010, 03:22:12 pm »
One possibility that's occurred to me... What if Crest had an opportunity to absorb it?  If he thought they were in trouble before searching for the seam in the staircase or if Danzig took him to the Girl's room before prison for some reason, he may have decided to take it.
Thats what I thought, I think Crest has it. Or if Suspira took it before him, then Melter and Danzig would've removed it with her clothes I'm guessing.

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Re: Chapter 24: Discussion
« Reply #118 on: March 08, 2010, 03:50:47 pm »
Heh, If Crest had been a real gentlemen he'd have offered at least his shirt to Bern.  Maybe she'll lend him her magick sword so he can fight if required (seen as how he left his own in the carriage *lol*).

I'm a bit surprised at Maytag's interrogation of Glyph.  I'd have expected her to be a bit more tactful and let him explain himself to see if he were lying or not.  Then again, maybe she's hoping that Moss or Fata would know better and tell her if he was a double agent or not.  The other possibility is that she's trying to prove Fata Morgana lied, but then it was only the illusion of Regina who said Glyph was an illusion.

Still leaves me wondering about how magick works when you possess someone.  Could the possessor still cast spells from Glyph's body and would it use his spirit essence or their own.  For that matter would the enchanted waters of the bath have affected them while they were in his body.  He/it still seemed easily aware at the end of the bath scene but it took some time before Bern and Maytag were affected.

...actually, just how far did Glyph get with Bern before Maytag pulled her away?  :-X
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« Reply #119 on: March 08, 2010, 05:10:57 pm »
damn. those must have been some tasty sandwiches.