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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #330 on: January 10, 2010, 01:37:47 pm »
Well, Melter's definitely surprised at SOMETHING while "examining" Suspira. You think they know each other?

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #331 on: January 10, 2010, 02:35:33 pm »
Good to know you're better, Brion...
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #332 on: January 10, 2010, 06:16:24 pm »
Well, Melter's definitely surprised at SOMETHING while "examining" Suspira. You think they know each other?

I think he's just checking out a hot girl in her skivvies. :P

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #333 on: January 10, 2010, 06:34:00 pm »
That yucky dude?
No way.
You see, guys like that are always more machine now (or applicable fantasy substitute thereof) then man.  :-\
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #334 on: January 11, 2010, 04:59:36 am »
Well, Melter's definitely surprised at SOMETHING while "examining" Suspira. You think they know each other?

I think he's just checking out a hot girl in her skivvies. :P

Or maybe he's wondering what happened to that leg marking.

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« Reply #335 on: January 11, 2010, 10:17:57 am »
Maybe now Moss will shed some light on this situation for us.

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #336 on: January 11, 2010, 10:26:10 am »
Still have a way with people, eh Moss?

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #337 on: January 11, 2010, 11:04:44 am »
Or is it?
What good is dreaming it if you don't actually do it?.

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #338 on: January 11, 2010, 04:21:15 pm »
hmmm, thats true.  More illusions are possible but I think they've given up on trying to fool her on people she knows as she'd probably see right through it again.

Still a wonder if Moss is here to help her or torment her considering he passed on the information about her weakness.  They've read her memory so you'd think they know about him but again, they may only have read enough to set her up for the tests.  If we presume it's too long or overwhelming to read a person's entire memory then there's a good chance they aren't aware that Moss and Maytag know each other.

At least he might let her know how the others are faring.

hmmm, I didn't realise there was a large, barred opening next to the bed last time.  I thought it was just part of the illusion but there was obviously some reality to it.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #339 on: January 11, 2010, 04:27:16 pm »
Here's a thought.  They know that using deception has failed on May what if they have "changed" Moss in some way and made him more extrovert?
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #340 on: January 11, 2010, 05:00:17 pm »
Perhaps this moss fellow will shed some information on what these creepy dudes actually want. They've been really tight lipped about it so far.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #341 on: January 11, 2010, 05:28:10 pm »
Well... Danzig did say they wanted to recruit them more than experiment on them *shrug*

But yes, it's still been quite vague thus far and all we can gather from these tests is that they're part of some "proper procedure" that they may well follow with anyone they take in.

It's possible that those who don't pass some sort of initial tests just have their memory erased and are sent on their way.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #342 on: January 12, 2010, 02:12:41 am »
It's possible that those who don't pass some sort of initial tests just have their memory erased and are sent on their way.
According to Shepard, memory erasing is not safe. Tho this might not always be a good idea to use on someone you don't want to hurt.
On the other hand of course, "Thin Man Technologies" could be more advanced.

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #343 on: January 12, 2010, 05:49:11 am »
Very true.  If we presume Shepard didn't work for the Thin Man then we can presume the Thin Man is much better at memory erasure as evidenced by Bloody Mary.  But Shepard just did a quick memory wipe.  He may be capable of a more refined one in better conditions with a little more time and commitment.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #344 on: January 12, 2010, 09:00:59 am »
Let me be a reminder to you all that these folks are villains.
Brutal, violent, amoral, monsters if what they did to Bloody Mary is any indicator.
If someone failed their "tests," it's pretty obvious what method of "memory erasure" they'd use; it starts with an "M"
and rhymes with "burder".  :-\ 
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« Reply #345 on: January 12, 2010, 10:02:34 am »
From Fata's reaction before, my guess is that they don't know May and Moss know each other. Or at least they don't know to what extent. Maybe Moss was the one to read their memories, and reported what he wanted to.

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« Reply #346 on: January 12, 2010, 03:14:47 pm »
Gotta love Moss.
"'Sup slut."

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #347 on: January 12, 2010, 03:19:17 pm »
@Akashayi: That makes sense, but then again, Fata Morgana would need a complete picture of the people and know their voices through and through... But if they can be read I'm sure they can be transferred.

@Ronin:  We know that Melter was responsible for Bloody Mary... It could be that Danzig's crew are unaware of that side of his work.  But yes, they could easily be passing everyone onto him with the belief that he's erasing their memory and returning them when he's really using them for experiments (Remember Qtalda's comment that there could be hundreds of failed attempts before Bloody Mary?)

But then Clairen is another example of someone who's actually gone to the Thin Man, had the experiments and simple had her memory of the event erased if her interview is anything to go on.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #348 on: January 13, 2010, 12:21:13 pm »
From Fata's reaction before, my guess is that they don't know May and Moss know each other. Or at least they don't know to what extent. Maybe Moss was the one to read their memories, and reported what he wanted to.

I find it odd that she didn't know Moss but knew Regina and Umber. Maybe she could only read those May lusted after?


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« Reply #349 on: January 13, 2010, 12:46:36 pm »
From Fata's reaction before, my guess is that they don't know May and Moss know each other. Or at least they don't know to what extent. Maybe Moss was the one to read their memories, and reported what he wanted to.

I find it odd that she didn't know Moss but knew Regina and Umber. Maybe she could only read those May lusted after?



Hm, that would be interesting.

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #350 on: January 13, 2010, 04:43:47 pm »
Oh snap. Moss is totally going to proposition May for sex again. :P

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #351 on: January 13, 2010, 05:09:16 pm »
His uncle!?!?!?!?

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #353 on: January 13, 2010, 05:24:42 pm »
Oh snap. Moss is totally going to proposition May for sex again. :P

hmmm, I think you're right.  Despite any friendship Moss enjoys torturing and tormenting people.  He may be aware of her promise to Bern and enjoy the thought of that torturous decision... Then again, this could just be more tests on her "weakness" and he has no intention to help her.

Glad once again that you're feeling better Brion.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #354 on: January 13, 2010, 06:02:32 pm »
Hmmm... The plot thickens.
That's good. Good riddance.

I really don't care what happens as long as they all get out of this creepy castle. I am sick to death of Danzig and his creepy asshole friends and their creepy asshole "Tests". Everything they have said is a lie, and or perpusely concocted with the intent to manipulate and confuse.  I know the introduction of this evil team is a major plot point but I can't wait to get to a part in the story where things make sense and everything an NPC says isn't part of some cannibalization / experimentation / enslavement conspiracy. 

And worse, this place is supposed to be a "bed and breakfast" right? Where the fuck is their continental breakfast?!?! >:(
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #355 on: January 13, 2010, 06:38:04 pm »
Good point, Ronin.  And yeah, Moss is quite the pervy scumball.  Don't do it, Maytag!

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #356 on: January 13, 2010, 07:31:43 pm »
I don't think you want to know the answer to that, Ronin...

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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #357 on: January 14, 2010, 12:21:44 am »
Just realised I think I'm getting the characters mixed up  :-\ think I'll go sit in a dark corner.
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Re: Chapter 23: Discussion
« Reply #358 on: January 14, 2010, 12:25:19 am »
Didn't May save his life before?

Still it seems to go for sex proposition again, well maybe he will torture her for a while with it and seeing May strong resolve not to do it, he will help her for old times, if he has any good in himself, and if he doesn't like his uncle or that evil shortie.

Or again it's just a test, after all Moss will tell May there's Bern life on the line, that they don't need her and she can be killed and will put even bigger pressure on May.

I'm still quite annoyed we don't see Bern at all from time May wake up :(

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« Reply #359 on: January 15, 2010, 04:17:12 am »
Argh, who the hell is danzig again?