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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #120 on: October 03, 2009, 05:05:11 pm »
it's "I wish I were a lesbian."

Now watch this, all of you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptC9N9YJ24Y

I was.

Your were, they were.

But I was.

Technically, the grammatically correct way to say that thought is "I wish to be a lesbian".

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #121 on: October 04, 2009, 12:16:48 am »
Hmm...
Mens pants in comparison with womens.  Mens are generally looser and more comfortable, womens tighter and meant to show off butts.  Of course, it seems like there definitely are butt-flattering pants for men, but they seem to be significantly less common.
We desperately need more butt-flattering pants on men.

As an aside, I have a couple pairs of mens cargo pants that flatter my ass much better than the womens jeans I have.  Yay cargo pants.

You know that the tight pants are less hygienic than loose ones for both sexes, and that using tight underwear or pants decreases sperm production and quality due to heat, right? That isn't a problem to all men though, but for me, and I think for most men, comfort comes first, then price and then waaay back maybe looks are considdered.

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #122 on: October 04, 2009, 10:21:36 am »
Comfort shouldn't only be a priority for men.

I'm all with you on that one D ;D Everyone deserves comfort.

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #123 on: October 04, 2009, 11:38:48 am »
It's an odd thing. The female body is much more sexualized in the media, it seems. I mean...even a bikini that doesn't show off any naughty bits, has a degree of sexiness surrounding it than a man in nothing but shorts (in media acceptability, that is).

Though on the other hand, the thong thing really is ridiculous. It's like...you can see anything. The same with the whole "as long as the nipple is covered" deal.

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #124 on: October 08, 2009, 11:39:52 pm »
yes I agree. It's girls fault though. We wouldn't have to act like that if they weren't so fucking sexy all the time...  >:(
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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #125 on: October 09, 2009, 12:21:13 am »
yes I agree. It's girls fault though. We wouldn't have to act like that if they weren't so fucking sexy all the time...  >:(

Yeah, that girl all dressing like a slut, it's her own fault she got raped.

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #126 on: October 09, 2009, 12:35:13 am »
Exactly, just like it would be the street-worker's fault if I raped him, because he was working shirtless. That's what they get for showing off their chests like that. We females have no self-control, you see. We have to rape everything that's a bit sexy or naked. I also always rape my nude models at the art school.
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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #127 on: October 09, 2009, 02:25:40 am »
Seems to me like there are more euphemisms for penis and/or testicles than there are for any or all portions of a woman's junk.
Too much TVTropes made me stumble upon this a few days ago, and just from skimming this page it seems sort of relevant. >>

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #128 on: October 09, 2009, 10:09:21 am »
I think ronin accidentally shot his mouth off before thinking, again...

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #129 on: October 09, 2009, 11:28:37 am »
I think ronin accidentally shot his mouth off before thinking, again...

To be fair, I extended his comment to an unreasonable conclusion, I'm sure he didn't mean anything near what I said.

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #130 on: October 13, 2009, 05:02:16 pm »
I was kidding. lighten up.
Plus, rape is the obvious line here, and it's never okay to cross it.


I just meant that men wouldn't hyper-sexualize women if they weren't so... sexy.
Even if you don't ever do anything about it, just the powerful hotness of women can be... painful sometimes.
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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #131 on: October 13, 2009, 05:14:04 pm »
I was kidding. lighten up.
Plus, rape is the obvious line here, and it's never okay to cross it.


I just meant that men wouldn't hyper-sexualize women if they weren't so... sexy.
Even if you don't ever do anything about it, just the powerful hotness of women can be... painful sometimes.


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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #132 on: October 13, 2009, 10:06:10 pm »
*Smacks CDSM*

...You didn't mean that literally? Oh, whoops. Sorry.

Don't worry Ronin. My post was cheek-in-tongue, but don't blame women for causing sexism with their sexyness. That's not something most people can do anything about - if you're sexy, then you're sexy even if you're dirty and wearing a plastic bag.

( And I'm sure there are feminists who would go that far to get their precious equality. I wouldn't, though. I'd be cold in a plastic bag.)
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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #133 on: October 13, 2009, 10:56:16 pm »
In regards to sexual objectification of women/men, I have two things to share that I found interesting.

Did anyone see this back in the day?
http://odditycollector.livejournal.com/97166.html
Fake comic book covers someone made to illustrate what would happen if men were objectified as sex objects. Some people were worked up over blatant sexual objectification of women on a recent comic book cover (this was in 06 so I barely remember it >.< ), and some fanboy used the counterargument that men are objectified all the time, citing superman's chest on covers. So, this girl made up the fake covers to show what it would look like if men were actually objectified.

Secondly and in partial contrast to that, the illustrious Katie West posted this a while back of an emotionally charged and non-sexual naked photo of a man(you can't see his bits, so it's safe for clicking?):
http://therealkatiewest.tumblr.com/post/165109148/jackscoresby-in-vulnerable-self-portrait
"It’s hard to take a naked picture of a man and not have it be so obviously all about the nakedness of the man: the cock in particular. For some reason it’s easier for a woman to take a naked picture of herself, and have it not necessarily be about sex, but of something more; the location, the situation, the emotion she’s attempting to convey. There are very few portraits of naked men I’ve found that are sexy and compelling while not being all about sex. Does this even make sense? I hope so."
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Anyway, I find the sexual objectification of women, taboo on body parts and even the way you think it's natural cause 'women are sexy' are all socially constructed ideas. And poor arguments.

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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #134 on: October 14, 2009, 12:47:56 am »
The first link was gold, Akasha. <3
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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #135 on: October 15, 2009, 04:33:32 am »
It's pretty funny. I agree.

But just because the objectification isn't usually that blatant, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen as the lady would imply.
As far as close ups of specific body parts go, I just don't think a company could ever get away with that, male or female.  :-\
If you were looking for comic book covers that objectified men in comics, all you'd have to do would be to find ones that have the same poses as gay porno magazines. And there are a lot of gay porno magazines.  :-\
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Re: Sex roles and the double standard.
« Reply #136 on: October 30, 2009, 12:37:46 am »

I'm sick and tired of guys only getting the geek roles.  We need more female geeks dammit!

QFT DAMMIT >_<.  As someone who prides himself on his numbers, there simply aren't enough geeky girls from Europe/USA that I've met.  I thought my former high school classmate was such a person considering she had an engineering major highly similar to mine, but then she jumped off the geek track and took up investment banking with Barclay's instead of going on to become a quant.

That said, if I find a girl my age who's a knockoff of my favorite professor...the problem was that the set (Euro or American girl (upside down U) geek (upside down U) my age) is next to nonexistent.