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Re: I confess
« Reply #720 on: September 19, 2009, 11:50:05 pm »
EVERY MALE is programmed to have as many mates as possible.

Not always... I'm not

I know exactly what you mean though, and I just felt the need to split the hair. Sorry ;D
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Re: I confess
« Reply #721 on: September 19, 2009, 11:52:18 pm »
You don't sound rude Razzly, just illogical.
Any closed relationship will involve sacrifices and compromises, regardless of how many there are in it. After all, if anyone isn't happy in it, there is nothing to stop them from leaving just like in any norm-complying relationship. And it's not about beeing able, it's about pursuing happyness. Love isn't a zero-sum game where there is only so much to go around.

I confess it's good to hear your head feels better, what about the rest?

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« Reply #722 on: September 19, 2009, 11:59:14 pm »
Pozf: No, actually, you are. Biologically. It's just that your brain has evolved far enough to ignore those impulses and listen to reason instead, and so you feel like one person is more than enough. Women are programmed to stay with one person as long as possible, because that helps with the child-rearing. Primal stuff, really.

Also, Emp, this is kind of my point to you, too. Humans have evolved past following their basic have-to-mate-with-as-many-as-possible. It doesn't matter wether it's a closed relationship with more than two or not, because it's still more than two. Which is, in my opinion, lazy.
Pursuing happiness? You can't be happy with one person? Greedy. 

EDIT: We should move this to the debate room if you feel like continuing. My opinion's not going to change, though. :)

The rest is the same.

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« Reply #723 on: September 20, 2009, 12:02:28 am »
That's kind of what I meant, because while we are biologically, we aren't at the same time due to intelligence and control and what not.
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Re: I confess
« Reply #724 on: September 20, 2009, 12:04:45 am »
I'd say you are more or less parroting the dominant cultural values of western society without caring to give it any serious thought with an open mindset. (Even though you will likely end up with the conclusion that regardless of other people's desires you still want the exclusiveness of monogamy) And I'd say someone wanting exclusive emotions is more greedy than someone who doesn't have such demands.

And I hope your pain lessens with time.

I confess I got upset with the condemning of my desire to pursue happyness as I see fit, not the fact that other people want different kind of lives for themselves.
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« Reply #725 on: September 20, 2009, 12:10:35 am »
Well, that's your opinion. ^^ And I think I've thought more than enough about this, and I'm open-minded enough, thankyouverymuch.
It's not like I'm hindering anyone from having several partners, I'm just saying I think it's greedy and lazy.

I'm greedy for wanting my partner to be content with just me? Really? Well, if he's not happy with that, he can find someone else. It's really not that complex.

EDIT: I'm not hindering you from puruing your happiness. You can do whatever you want, but don't expect me to change my mind about it. What do you care anyway? I'm just some girl on the internet, what does my opinion matter? ^^ The only thing it changes, is the chances of the two of us ever having a chance at a relationship. Ahem.
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Re: I confess
« Reply #726 on: September 20, 2009, 12:16:48 am »
And a polygamous relationship is just as complex/incomplex as that, there is no greed or lazyness in either, because all kinds of relationships demand hard work and serious commitment if they are to last at all. So it's completely uncalled for to call someone greedy and lazy just because they don't work the same way you do.

I confess I care for you as a friend nonetheless Razzly :)

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« Reply #727 on: September 20, 2009, 12:23:31 am »
Mm, I'm sorry.
But it -really- is what I think.

I confess that I think that's nice, but you don't know me well enough yet to call me a friend. Wait until you get really pissed off at me.
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Re: I confess
« Reply #728 on: September 20, 2009, 12:30:18 am »
Potential friend then?

I confess that I have a huge tolerance towards getting pissed off and a disproportionately short cool-down period.

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Re: I confess
« Reply #729 on: September 20, 2009, 12:32:44 am »
I confess I'm the opposite!

I confess I cry when I'm mad. I also cry when I'm happy, when I'm sad, and when I'm tired. :D
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Re: I confess
« Reply #730 on: September 20, 2009, 12:35:20 am »
I confess I cry when I'm sad and when I'm about to get a black-out and go berzerk... (the latter hasn't happened since 9th grade)

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Re: I confess
« Reply #731 on: September 20, 2009, 01:36:56 am »
I confess I went against Emp's advice and right now installing Brother's in Arms
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Re: I confess
« Reply #732 on: September 20, 2009, 08:14:04 am »

EVERY MALE is programmed to have as many mates as possible. If the rest of the world can stay with one person, then so probably can you. ^^


I don't want to sound abrasive, but I don't like you projecting your malformed opinions onto me.

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« Reply #733 on: September 20, 2009, 08:30:59 am »

EVERY MALE is programmed to have as many mates as possible. If the rest of the world can stay with one person, then so probably can you. ^^


I don't want to sound abrasive, but I don't like you projecting your malformed opinions onto me.

But it's not an opinion... It says so in my biology book... ._.
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Re: I confess
« Reply #734 on: September 20, 2009, 08:32:33 am »
I confess I'm starting to wonder if I am wired up right if I'm meant to be programmed to have as many mates as posssible  ??? been pretty faithful.
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Re: I confess
« Reply #735 on: September 20, 2009, 08:43:42 am »

But it's not an opinion... It says so in my biology book... ._.

Then your book is flawed and needs a revision.

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Re: I confess
« Reply #736 on: September 20, 2009, 08:44:56 am »

But it's not an opinion... It says so in my biology book... ._.

Then your book is flawed and needs a revision.

Your mama needs revision.

Sorry.

Even if you're personally completely monogamous, that just means you're better at listening to your brain than your genes. I already explained it somewhere on the last page. :]
Similarly, I'm programmed to have lots of babies. Yet, I hate children and will never have them, because I'm a human and I can think, too?
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Re: I confess
« Reply #737 on: September 20, 2009, 08:54:01 am »


Then your book is flawed and needs a revision.

Your mama needs revision.

Sorry.

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Even if you're personally completely monogamous, that just means you're better at listening to your brain than your genes. I already explained it somewhere on the last page. :]
Similarly, I'm programmed to have lots of babies. Yet, I hate children and will never have them, because I'm a human and I can think, too?

See, this is where I think you're wrong. My brain was developed by my genes. There is not some urge that says "man, i gotta score lots" to me, that I have to ignore because i believe monogamy is some kind of higher calling.

That's why I hate people saying, "You're a guy, so you're X", only I'm totally not. I'm not that easily definable. Call me a freak, call me an aberration, call me whatever, but don't call me one of you.

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Re: I confess
« Reply #738 on: September 20, 2009, 09:45:51 am »
...I don't think you understand what I mean CDSM. You're taking offence for completely no reason at all.

But fine, be that way. I'm finished arguing with you people. *Sulks and logs off*
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Re: I confess
« Reply #739 on: September 20, 2009, 10:38:51 am »
I confess I want to hug Razzly now just to comfort her

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« Reply #740 on: September 20, 2009, 10:47:06 am »
I confess I want to hug Razzly now just to comfort her
And then, I will hug emp, and then someone else will join in, and we will create a chain of comforting the likes of which the world has never seen!

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Re: I confess
« Reply #741 on: September 20, 2009, 10:51:08 am »
I confess I want to hug Razzly now just to comfort her
And then, I will hug emp, and then someone else will join in, and we will create a chain of comforting the likes of which the world has never seen!
And then we'll start the kissing

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Re: I confess
« Reply #742 on: September 20, 2009, 11:00:45 am »
... ok then I'll just be over here in the "don't touch me" line thanks.
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« Reply #743 on: September 20, 2009, 11:03:39 am »
aw.

./hugs pozf anyway. ;P

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Re: I confess
« Reply #744 on: September 20, 2009, 11:35:21 am »
*touches pozf, hmmmmmmm  :-*


I confess that if i keep up my new eating habit my body turn into a skeleton


Edit: And i would fail in english grammar -_-. That sentence sucks!
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« Reply #745 on: September 20, 2009, 11:53:32 am »
*touches pozf, hmmmmmmm  :-*


I confess that if i keep up my new eating habit my body turn into a skeleton
Don't even think for a second that I won't come over there and cook up a meal you can't resist, missy!  :P

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Re: I confess
« Reply #746 on: September 20, 2009, 11:54:49 am »
I know you would, that's why i hide behind the bushes so you can't find me

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Re: I confess
« Reply #747 on: September 20, 2009, 11:56:05 am »
I confess I'm hiding in the bushes out side your door  ;D
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« Reply #748 on: September 20, 2009, 11:57:47 am »
Then you're covered in cat pee  :-\

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Re: I confess
« Reply #749 on: September 20, 2009, 11:59:38 am »
Now I did not say your door Selan, that was open ended so I could be hiding outside any of the fellow forumites door's
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