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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #690 on: April 12, 2010, 10:08:00 pm »
FOUR YEARS?!!

He should get at least, AT LEAST 10 years!! If it was up to me he'd be castrated without anesthesia and then put in prison for life!
The rights system is sick...
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #691 on: April 13, 2010, 10:32:52 am »
You know, Raz, castration have never and will never change any rapist since the crime isn't about sex at all on a motive level. What drives a rapist is a hunger for power through forcing their will on others. The only treatments for that are cognitive therapy or execution.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #692 on: April 13, 2010, 11:17:09 am »
You know, Raz, castration have never and will never change any rapist since the crime isn't about sex at all on a motive level. What drives a rapist is a hunger for power through forcing their will on others. The only treatments for that are cognitive therapy or execution.

Yeah. If they don't have a penis, they'll use a foreign object, or something.

But I still think mutilation is still a fitting punishment. And lifetime forced slavery, since the death penalty is wasteful.

Too bad we're too soft these days. Not like ancient Babylon! Them mothers was hardcore. They had Hammurabi's Code.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #693 on: April 13, 2010, 12:08:06 pm »
But a crucifiction is never out of place ;)

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #694 on: April 13, 2010, 12:15:23 pm »
You know, Raz, castration have never and will never change any rapist since the crime isn't about sex at all on a motive level. What drives a rapist is a hunger for power through forcing their will on others. The only treatments for that are cognitive therapy or execution.

I'm perfectly aware of that, but mutilating what is to many men their dearest bodypart, seems like a good punishment. It also prevents them from spreading their seed and ruining the gene-pool with little proto-rapists.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #695 on: April 13, 2010, 12:18:06 pm »
As nice as it sounds, I do not believe that rapists should be executed :P

But removing their ability to enjoy sex seems fitting. Of course they'll find other ways and it's psychological, but small victories.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #696 on: April 13, 2010, 12:22:30 pm »
Small victories? if they proceed to kill their next victim when they get out out of vengeance? I don't think so, either you make sure they get proper treatment and get free of the basic impulses that cause theit behaviour in the first place, or you make sure they cease to be a threat in other ways, through isolation until death by natural causes or execution.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #697 on: April 13, 2010, 01:06:58 pm »
use them as human mine detectors?
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #698 on: April 13, 2010, 01:14:03 pm »
Hehe, then I know a mech-inf unit that'll need quite some numbers this coming weekend...

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #699 on: April 13, 2010, 01:29:33 pm »
Ok, I think I sound a little too serious precoffee. The problem is that execution and mutilation sound nice but they aren't real solutions. And four years in prison is just pathetic.

And there's a difference between child rapists and say... date rapists. Child rapists, I believe, can not be 'cured'.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #700 on: April 13, 2010, 03:03:28 pm »
Ok, I think I sound a little too serious precoffee. The problem is that execution and mutilation sound nice but they aren't real solutions. And four years in prison is just pathetic.

Lifetime slavery. Steal their life from them (a rather symmetrical punishment), make them useful to society, etc.
Execution is at least a solution in that it prevents the person from further crimes.
Prison on the whole, I'm not sure what use it is, since the prison experience probably won't "fix" them of their issues. That only works if they're the types that fear punishment, and for someone like that, the behavior is too ingrained so they'll ignore the risks.

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And there's a difference between child rapists and say... date rapists. Child rapists, I believe, can not be 'cured'.

I don't think any of that behaviour can be "cured". People like that are just too messed up. Unless you have years of therapy and such, but...I don't think we're at a level where we can do that yet.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #701 on: April 13, 2010, 04:18:29 pm »
I don't think any of that behaviour can be "cured". People like that are just too messed up. Unless you have years of therapy and such, but...I don't think we're at a level where we can do that yet.

And even then they can only be "cured" if they actually want to be, *and even then it does fail* which isn't all of them.

isn't this getting just a tad off topic though?
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #702 on: April 13, 2010, 04:38:28 pm »
I don't think any of that behaviour can be "cured". People like that are just too messed up. Unless you have years of therapy and such, but...I don't think we're at a level where we can do that yet.

And even then they can only be "cured" if they actually want to be, *and even then it does fail* which isn't all of them.

isn't this getting just a tad off topic though?

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #703 on: April 13, 2010, 06:20:04 pm »
Make something because you think it'd be cool, get derided.

Hmmm...So this is what being an art student feels like.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #704 on: April 14, 2010, 12:56:51 am »
I'll allow it..................for now.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #705 on: April 14, 2010, 01:18:10 pm »
Make something because you think it'd be cool, get derided.

Hmmm...So this is what being an art student feels like.

I need the full story behind this.

It sounds like something I could relate to.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #706 on: April 14, 2010, 01:54:51 pm »
Make something because you think it'd be cool, get derided.

Hmmm...So this is what being an art student feels like.

I need the full story behind this.

It sounds like something I could relate to.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #707 on: April 19, 2010, 04:40:13 pm »
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/army-recruit-filmed-rape-spat-on-girl/story-e6frea73-1225739107270

Read this shit.

"Defence barrister Paul Smith described Jack as an "ordinary, decent young man who made an extraordinarily big mistake"."

Seriously. Fuck that guy, whoever the hell he is. What the fuck is that dipshit thinking?

*I'm* an ordinary, decent young man. When I make a mistake it's called, "oversleeping and missing class" or "going a bit fast and getting a speeding ticket".

Raping a girl and filming it, then showing it to your friends? That's not just some mistake.

If I was this girl's friend I'd get a posse together and fucking beat this guy's skull in with a god-damn baseball bat.

Then I'd say it was "an extraordinarily big mistake".

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #708 on: April 20, 2010, 01:59:51 am »
Two years suspended sentence? are you effing kidding me for rape? thought it would of been a bit longer than that and to make it worse he recorded it!!
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #709 on: April 20, 2010, 11:12:50 am »
Seems like the Dutch aren't the only ones with a stupid system.

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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #710 on: April 20, 2010, 07:30:00 pm »
Well... In our court's defence, it was the defence attorney, not the prosecutor or judge, who said he was an ordinary, decent young man.  I think they're kind of expected to say rubbish like that.

There must have been some significant mitigating circumstances if they reduced it by that much.  Heck the judge was a woman.  I guess he also looses his military job and carries the conviction for a sex related crime for the rest of his life.

Alcohol isn't considered an excuse in Australian law so he can't claim he was drunk (although, the fact he was showing people the video probably negates that argument anyway).

Best I can think is that he had no prior convictions and a guilty plea always drives it down a bit.  I'm guessing the prosecution spoke it over with the victim and worked out an appropriate plea bargian that would satisfy her and avoid any hearing that would require her to testify.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #711 on: April 21, 2010, 02:11:23 am »
He'll end up getting kicked out for that probably with a dishonourable discharge.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #712 on: April 21, 2010, 11:12:58 pm »
Yeah, the article mentioned that the court was informed that he'd be dismissed from the defence force as a result of the conviction, although I'm not sure they can give him a dishonourable discharge.  I think it's a regular discharge/dismissal but he still won't be eligable for any benefits given to other veterans or be eligable to elist in any of the Australian Armed Services.

It has to be a military, not civil, conviction for a dishonourable discharge, but I can't really see any difference between the two types of dismissal except for name.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #713 on: April 22, 2010, 09:17:25 am »
A dishonorable discharge is a mark of shame that makes it harder to find other jobs. It's like a broader but not as visible version of a sex-offender registry.

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« Reply #714 on: April 22, 2010, 09:25:39 am »
A dishonorable discharge is a mark of shame that makes it harder to find other jobs. It's like a broader but not as visible version of a sex-offender registry.
Wait...He's in the army....I'm not entirely sure that by slipping the regular courts that he couldn't be tried under the millitary justice system, which is MUCH harsher.

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« Reply #715 on: April 22, 2010, 09:34:39 am »
well what ever they decide it will be marked down as a dis-charge other than medical or honourable.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #716 on: April 25, 2010, 06:41:47 pm »
What makes me mad from time to time is when I meet a really hot girl and it turns out she's a hardcore lesbian. Yeah. Big effing waste of perfectly good genetic material.
I totally support the LGBT/Q/insert letter here movement - the rest of society has no business trying to restrict the rights of gays and such - but every once in a while I wish that one particular girl would be straight, or at least bi, just for me. Or failing that, I'm game for turning into a girl. But that still doesn't solve the other part of the problem, which is that cute, intelligent, healthy people need to be the ones reproducing rather than all those dumb people.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #717 on: April 29, 2010, 03:41:17 pm »
Well there is artificial insemination.  I actually know a lovely lesbian couple who had a baby sometime last year.
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #718 on: April 29, 2010, 09:59:55 pm »
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Re: A little pit of rage
« Reply #719 on: May 02, 2010, 11:40:37 pm »
Have to bike to work in less than 6 hours, not tired in the least bit. Fuuuuuuckk.
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