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« on: July 15, 2014, 12:21:51 pm »Oh Akashayi you should of came up to see me in Bonnie Scotland
That's illegal in at least 4 states.
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Oh Akashayi you should of came up to see me in Bonnie Scotland
it's kind of like trying to see what's inside of the sun by throwing people into it
The horror, the horror!
"We want information... information... information."
What's a story without an intricate series of unfortunate events designed to show your character growth through circumstantial struggle?
I've been unable to see page 21 for the past few days.
What's going on?
A bonus for initiative, but points off for lack of dignity.
Do they have to repave the floor after every set of trials?
Except of course that your entire argument was based around morality, namely that which society has taught us. Your heart and soul argument is exclusively morality. What if there was a society in which hard labor was considered anathema, and mores were put in place regarding its usage. The original question stands.
I did not mention an eye for an eye. I did not mention , though I am well aware of, what they do in Pakistan and other Muslim societies and it is anathema. Those in power who do such things, according to my standards, should be killed. Nevertheless, my original question stands. The question was what the state has a right to do - they have a right to force you into hard labor, they have a right to kill you, do they have a right to rape you? If no, why not? And if you say no, how many times have you been through airport security in the last decade?
Your argument was bad and you should feel bad.
No. You should feel bad, very bad for thinking that RAPE and PHYSICAL LABOR are the same thing.
They are clearly not. Rape doesn't JUST violate your body, it DOES INDEED violate your mind. Pick up a psychology book sometime. There is no "morality" in psychology, just cold hard fact, and years of careful scientific OBSERVATION. You could tell me fire is cold, and won't burn you, but I can OBSERVE that is flat out wrong as I see it burn the fuel it uses and feel the heat coming from the flames.
Morality aside, NO CIVILIZED SOCIETY has the RIGHT to rape its citizens. Not even its prisoners. You can ignore human rights, you can ignore "morality," but the scientific fact and culmination of years of documented research shows that doing so is, at best, counter-productive and at worst, only serves to embolden opposition and leads to revolt.
(Note, I have travelled by ship very recently, and I don't recall security raping any of the passengers. Not even the TSA.)
Capital Punishment (The death penalty as posted by sunphoenix) in civilized society MUST be reserved purely for those criminals who are a clear and present DEADLY danger to the citizenry as a whole, or those who commit acts so atrocious that no other form of punishment comes close to being justice.
This raises an interesting question. If the state has the right to force you to hard labor, do they have the right to rape you? After all, both are involuntary uses of the body. Moral issues aside, what's the difference?
There is a BIG difference between hard labor, and rape, good sir.
The former is a valid approach to pay for debts both public and private. You WANT big, strong, possibly VIOLENT people doing something constructive instead of sitting in a cell with other like-minded individuals doing nothing but plotting mischief.
The latter is a wholly unwarranted violation of everything that makes you human, and should in no way be tolerated, let alone endorsed.
Furthermore, rape is not JUST "an abuse of the body" but a direct assault on the mind, "heart" and "soul" of a person, and really has no place in any civilized society despite what certain Indian (the country) or Pakistani tribal sects preach. (Yes, some tribal councils actually SENTENCE girls to be raped because they want to punish the family by public shaming.)
If you REALLY want to get into "An Eye for an Eye" the code of Hamurabi condemns rape by the same standard as murder, ie DEATH.
I'm not entirely sure, but from what I've read on modern psychology, I doubt raping rapists would work. In fact, some rapists ARE rapists specifically because they WERE raped themselves.
As for today's installment, "Getting ranked," this I can endorse. This prison could have done well without the "welcomer."
Or tell, if Bloody Mary can't be convinced to give detailed lectures on the subject of her recently combined powers.That was a spoiler in the flavor text.
Cool zombies.
You don't put spoilers in the flavor text. This ain't final Fantasy 13.
If you want to explain Lehms or Melters powers next, don't. Please don't! Stahp!!