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Free Talk / Re: The Chat Thread
« on: July 15, 2014, 12:21:51 pm »
Oh Akashayi you should of came up to see me in Bonnie Scotland  ;)

That's illegal in at least 4 states.

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Hall of Games / Re: Quote the avatar above you
« on: July 15, 2014, 12:19:18 pm »
"That was one hell of a burrito."

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Hall of Games / Re: Guess who's next!
« on: July 15, 2014, 12:18:38 pm »
Nope.   :P

Smiles!

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Hall of Games / Re: More Words!
« on: July 02, 2014, 08:04:39 am »
dead

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 40: Discussion
« on: June 25, 2014, 03:34:17 pm »
Chrest, pretty much every woman in your life needs saving right now.

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Hall of Games / Re: More Words!
« on: June 25, 2014, 12:11:04 pm »
Clown

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Hall of Games / Re: More Words!
« on: June 18, 2014, 10:57:34 am »
float

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 40: Discussion
« on: May 06, 2014, 03:13:55 pm »
it's kind of like trying to see what's inside of the sun by throwing people into it

hothothothothothothot!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 40: Discussion
« on: April 28, 2014, 10:40:34 am »
The horror, the horror!

The only thing you have to fear, is fear itself.   And flesh eating monsters.  Fear itself and flesh eating monsters.  Flesh eating monsters and fear itself.  The only two things you have to fear are fear itself and flesh eating monsters.  And the dark cell.  The three things you have to fear are fear itself, flesh eating monsters, and the dark cell.  And an almost fanatical devotion to the Thin Man.  The four things you have.... No.  Amongst the things you have to fear are such elements as fear itself, flesh eating monsters....   I'll come in again.

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Hall of Games / Re: Guess who's next!
« on: April 11, 2014, 10:29:26 am »
Nope.  It was me.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 40: Discussion
« on: April 07, 2014, 02:02:31 pm »
"We want information... information... information."

You won't get it!

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Free Talk / Re: Brion's Email hacked?
« on: March 17, 2014, 09:28:51 am »
That's really nothing to do with Brion, except for the fact that his email is the reply address.  Any computer in the world could have sent that email.  Pretty much any device that has emailed you and Brion could be the infected PC.

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Free Talk / Re: Brion's Email hacked?
« on: March 14, 2014, 11:25:21 am »
He's not nearly drunk enough to be Brion, who I assume is so awesome that he is never sober.

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Hall of Games / Re: More Words!
« on: March 07, 2014, 09:47:04 am »
Up

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: February 11, 2014, 02:13:08 pm »
What's a story without an intricate series of unfortunate events designed to show your character growth through circumstantial struggle?

Porn?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: January 31, 2014, 12:46:06 pm »
"It hurts and stings."

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: January 27, 2014, 02:15:08 pm »
Yeah.  This is going to end with Bern ranked Class S and put up against the Bloody Mary clones.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: January 27, 2014, 07:42:35 am »
I've been unable to see page 21 for the past few days.

What's going on? ???

It's so awesome a strip that the website has needed to warm up for a few days to get ready.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: January 17, 2014, 02:08:08 pm »
Costumes.    Pffft.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: January 15, 2014, 10:28:40 am »
There might be an issue with D class fighters as well.  Like maybe they have to go up against the Mary clones or something.

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Hall of Games / Re: Quote the avatar above you
« on: January 14, 2014, 07:15:49 am »
"The name's Tomcat Baker."

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Hall of Games / Re: Quote the avatar above you
« on: January 10, 2014, 08:36:11 am »
"When the box is gone, the smile remains."

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Hall of Games / Re: Quote the avatar above you
« on: January 06, 2014, 07:04:43 am »
"You can be my companion... forever."

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: January 02, 2014, 12:57:05 pm »
Class S?  You must be yanking my chain.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: December 23, 2013, 06:39:50 pm »
A bonus for initiative, but points off for lack of dignity.

Do they have to repave the floor after every set of trials?

Lol.  One certainly hopes so.  And they best use bleach.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: December 23, 2013, 11:11:09 am »

Except of course that your entire argument was based around morality, namely that which society has taught us.  Your heart and soul argument is exclusively morality.  What if there was a society in which hard labor was considered anathema, and mores were put in place regarding its usage.  The original question stands.

I did not mention an eye for an eye.  I did not mention , though I am well aware of, what they do in Pakistan and other Muslim societies and it is anathema.  Those in power who do such things, according to my standards, should be killed.  Nevertheless, my original question stands.  The question was what the state has a right to do - they have a right to force you into hard labor, they have a right to kill you, do they have a right to rape you?  If no, why not?  And if you say no, how many times have you been through airport security in the last decade?

Your argument was bad and you should feel bad.

No. You should feel bad, very bad for thinking that RAPE and PHYSICAL LABOR are the same thing.

They are clearly not. Rape doesn't JUST violate your body, it DOES INDEED violate your mind. Pick up a psychology book sometime. There is no "morality" in psychology, just cold hard fact, and years of careful scientific OBSERVATION. You could tell me fire is cold, and won't burn you, but I can OBSERVE that is flat out wrong as I see it burn the fuel it uses and feel the heat coming from the flames.

Morality aside, NO CIVILIZED SOCIETY has the RIGHT to rape its citizens. Not even its prisoners. You can ignore human rights, you can ignore "morality," but the scientific fact and culmination of years of documented research shows that doing so is, at best, counter-productive and at worst, only serves to embolden opposition and leads to revolt.

(Note, I have travelled by ship very recently, and I don't recall security raping any of the passengers. Not even the TSA.)

Capital Punishment (The death penalty as posted by sunphoenix) in civilized society MUST be reserved purely for those criminals who are a clear and present DEADLY danger to the citizenry as a whole, or those who commit acts so atrocious that no other form of punishment comes close to being justice.

Clearly your argument is incorrect.  A body cavity search is rape, as if it were to happen the street the offender would be charged with rape or some other similar crime.  But a body cavity search is performed every time someone is arrested and incarcerated in many jurisdictions in the USA.  I would call the USA a civilized society (though clearly some of its citizens are merely housetrained, at best).  I expect that you support the state in its misguided efforts to keep prisons safe.  Certainly I doubt you are among the handful who protest this abomination.  And this is to say nothing of the rape culture that has been deliberately fostered for decades by America's prison industrial complex.  Your argument that the state does not have the right to rape is wrong.  You have granted the state this right.

There is no "scientific fact and culmination of years of documented research" regarding the poor treatment of prisoners, as is prima facie evident from the argument above.  Your attempt at indignation to cover your fallacious (at best) argument is absurd.  Additionally, there have been no scientific studies (which would require laboratory conditions) of cultural development that control for conditions.  Using the word science does not improve your argument, but rather quite the opposite.

Further, there are or have been many civilized societies (civilized? what are you, Cecil Rhodes setting out to help our unfortunate dark cousins?) that regard rape as a lesser crime than forcing someone to a life of menial labor.  Consider the plight of the unfortunate Lady Murasaki from Tale of Genji for a clear bright line example.  It was clearly thought better by everyone in her life that she be raped (and at an unpleasantly young age) than be forced to labor by being demoted in class.  I would not call medieval Japan uncivilized.  Other examples abound, such as Rome under the Emperors.  I would not call Imperial Rome uncivilized either.  Senators and their wives put up with a very great deal under certain emperors, including rape, rather than relinquish their positions.

Your halfbaked (and off topic) argument about capital punishment is also incorrect.  We only need observe the number of innocent people on death row to realize that this punishment is unethical.  If we choose to defend the freedoms of the majority by preserving the rights of the individual (which is the basis of the Great Experiment), then capital punishment, even if it murders just one innocent person (which it has done) is an form of punishment at odds with the principles that the Republic was founded on.

Azure Priest, what you've written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational argument. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Summer Glau

PS - Check me out on the WB's Arrow.  The next new episode airs January 15!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: December 16, 2013, 09:47:43 am »
This raises an interesting question.  If the state has the right to force you to hard labor, do they have the right to rape you?  After all, both are involuntary uses of the body.  Moral issues aside, what's the difference?

There is a BIG difference between hard labor, and rape, good sir.

The former is a valid approach to pay for debts both public and private. You WANT big, strong, possibly VIOLENT people doing something constructive instead of sitting in a cell with other like-minded individuals doing nothing but plotting mischief.

The latter is a wholly unwarranted violation of everything that makes you human, and should in no way be tolerated, let alone endorsed.

Furthermore, rape is not JUST "an abuse of the body" but a direct assault on the mind, "heart" and "soul" of a person, and really has no place in any civilized society despite what certain Indian (the country) or Pakistani tribal sects preach. (Yes, some tribal councils actually SENTENCE girls to be raped because they want to punish the family by public shaming.)

If you REALLY want to get into "An Eye for an Eye" the code of Hamurabi condemns rape by the same standard as murder, ie DEATH.

I'm not entirely sure, but from what I've read on modern psychology, I doubt raping rapists would work. In fact, some rapists ARE rapists specifically because they WERE raped themselves.

As for today's installment, "Getting ranked," this I can endorse. This prison could have done well without the "welcomer."

Except of course that your entire argument was based around morality, namely that which society has taught us.  Your heart and soul argument is exclusively morality.  What if there was a society in which hard labor was considered anathema, and mores were put in place regarding its usage.  The original question stands.

I did not mention an eye for an eye.  I did not mention , though I am well aware of, what they do in Pakistan and other Muslim societies and it is anathema.  Those in power who do such things, according to my standards, should be killed.  Nevertheless, my original question stands.  The question was what the state has a right to do - they have a right to force you into hard labor, they have a right to kill you, do they have a right to rape you?  If no, why not?  And if you say no, how many times have you been through airport security in the last decade?

Your argument was bad and you should feel bad.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 39: Discussion
« on: December 12, 2013, 08:56:09 am »
This raises an interesting question.  If the state has the right to force you to hard labor, do they have the right to rape you?  After all, both are involuntary uses of the body.  Moral issues aside, what's the difference?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Intermission 27
« on: November 07, 2013, 07:22:00 am »
Cool.  I like the Intermissions.  They're fun.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Intermission 27
« on: October 30, 2013, 08:14:33 am »
Or tell, if Bloody Mary can't be convinced to give detailed lectures on the subject of her recently combined powers. ;)

Cool zombies. 8)
That was a spoiler in the flavor text.
You don't put spoilers in the flavor text. This ain't final Fantasy 13.
If you want to explain Lehms or Melters powers next, don't. Please don't! Stahp!!

It kind of is.  Part of the advantage of a strip like OOTS or a Mechwarrior Book is that everyone knows what a Disintegrate Spell does or what an Awesome is.  This is not necessarily the case here.  I liked the "filler" material.  I enjoy this world more as a result.

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