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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: April 22, 2017, 06:01:07 pm »
"You go on ahead Eye. I'll stay behind and have a little 'talk' with Miss Kitty."  ;D

I think she figured out what's up.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: April 16, 2017, 05:00:10 pm »
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for a guy with nothing in his head, he sure has a terrible poker face

[terriblepunwarning]Yeah, it's like she can see right through him.[/terriblepunwarning]

(You can start groaning now)

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:47:19 am »
If she's walking towards her, will it just kinda nudge her back or will she be able to pass through?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: April 03, 2017, 05:35:29 pm »
Uh oh. Time to kill the kitten.  :'(

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 28, 2017, 06:21:10 am »
I know she was pranking us, but on some level, I get the impression this is true. That there is something about her that is outside of limits.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 21, 2017, 08:24:08 am »
I think it's because she was taking credit for something that was ultimately a gamble. It's entirely possible that it still wouldn't have worked, and with the knife in hand, that might've been the end of her.

Maybe the implication here is that May doesn't feel amazing, but is taking credit for it anyway.

She might also ask about some third thing. Memories, senses, ummm was there another one?

Update: Oh right, emotions. This kinda goes into an interesting line of questioning. She basically is a masochist, so yeah she enjoys pain. But here's the odd thing. It's a logical trap.

  • Maytag, as part of her natural state, has learned to accept pain. She basically, on some level, enjoys it. This, however, is a conscious preference, built upon smaller unconscious past issues.
  • She has entered an area that steals memories and distorts senses. Normally, something that she has learned to love would not be retained, because whatever past events would also be wiped out. That is, the acceptance technique is a learned skill, so it gets wiped out.
  • Since the acceptance technique is gone, she should not be smiling. In fact, either she is numb as a result of being in agony and not remembering how to use her technique, or she is able to feel things and as a result could be affected by the despair.
  • These two are apparently mutually exclusive. That is, if she was in such pain that despair could not touch her, she should be unable to smile.
  • That she was able to smile effectively means she maintained a sense of herself despite the effect of the Storm supposedly draining out her memories. This should be impossible.

We have a seen people with magic, and we have seen those altered by Thin Man, and we have seen people with natural special abilities. In the bed & breakfast, she was able to resist a charm effect, even while being immersed in a liquid. That is, she has physiological as well as psychological resistance to certain magical effects. I wonder if there is something more to this, though?
 


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 20, 2017, 08:23:23 pm »
Really?  :o

It's a culture reference. Pinocchio?

(You were joking, right?)

Or he's about to reveal how odd it was that she was able to analyze all of this in such a short amount of time.


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 15, 2017, 09:11:06 am »
Probably.

I'm just finding it extremely interesting the idea of her heading into a shopping center.  :'(

She will literally have to move about constantly, or have people get PTSD from her presence.

:fear, pain, horrible images: "Hi, I'd like a pastry." (walks away) :horrible images, pain, fear:

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 13, 2017, 03:36:55 am »
Cat is A source of magic. Not THE source of magic. Important dinstinction. Read her name. Cybele Surrogate 3. She is a surrogate for Cybele, one of (at least) three. Cybele, may be THE source of magic. CS3 is just a surrogate.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 10, 2017, 12:15:10 pm »
Eye looks like she's gonna choke on her cookies at that last bit.  ;D

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 09, 2017, 10:05:32 am »
Eye is the girl.

"Come to the dark side. We have cookies." Made apparently out of thin air.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: March 07, 2017, 05:45:35 pm »
But what about Crest? We miss... actually, I'm not that interested in him.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Flipside Patreon
« on: March 06, 2017, 03:21:00 am »
Plushies, toys, and stuff. Comic volumes and possibly a Part 1 anthology (first ten volumes?)

I could help you make a lightweight d20 system (somehow Flipside seems well suited for an urban RPG) which you could do a boxed set if they give the top offering. It jiust seems well-suited given the major worldbuilding.

I totally want a Eye and CS3 plushie.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: March 04, 2017, 02:46:08 pm »
Read that passage again. The intense fear was a distraction. While you do need determination to get past the fear, the actual issue is a sort of palpable strain on the body. She got through by building physical strength through walking around.

I found the page in question: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=2647 "the stress is what makes it so difficult to move in dark cell".
Maybe I missed the part where they mentioned a physical barrier. I guess that the kind of fear in phase 1 is something of the extreme, even impossible to imagine. It should probably have more to do with general fitness and heart condition than body type. Anyways, I don't think it's that.

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I find it interesting that Thin Man's qualia theory appears to be a dead end.
Indeed, or maybe May hasn't asked the right questions yet. It's all too freaky still.

A few things.

Basically, I think I would put it like this. It's basically like agoraphobia. When you go outside with such a condition after being a shut-in for months/years, the stress creates a physical sensation (high blood pressure, actual muscle strain, etc). But now that I see the other comments, I have a different theory about everything.

The qualia aren't something known to the two inside. This tells me Eye, at least, is innocent. And possibly that that term was something coined by Lehm and not their proper name. If she showed the painting CS3, she would like be like "Oh yeah, that's a..."

 Back to the barrier. I suspect that not everyone enters the Dark Cell the same way. As in, probably when the original carrier dies, the Dark Cell opens up somewhere and random people enter, only to become the new host. The space closes around them, giving them despair, which they can't overcome, and they are trapped inside the cell with CS3. They can't of course leave unless someone switches off with them.
 
Which brings us to our side note. Cybele Surrogate Three. I suspect, surrogate as in, a replacement for the original Cybele. If I had to guess, I would say that Cybele (whatever her full name is) is likely the creator of the qualia, and there are three (at least) synthetic lifeforms made as substitutes (surrogates) to house her knowledge set and act as company for the one trapped in the Dark Cell. The interesting part is, CS3 is probably also jailer. She gave her back her eyes, hoping that it will trap her. So yeah, more likely Phase 3.

So basically, it isn't so much that she is trapped so much as the black aura surrounding her makes it unthinkable for her to leave (she'd be taking a huge zone of negativity with her. Usually, that makes it a "stay until you die, or find someone worthy to replace you" issue. However, all of this changes if May is able to somehow suppress or subdue the negative energy.   

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: March 04, 2017, 11:57:20 am »
Good point. Of course, May being May, will probably refuse and just leave, walking back through the Storm anyway.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: March 03, 2017, 04:48:50 pm »
Read that passage again. The intense fear was a distraction. While you do need determination to get past the fear, the actual issue is a sort of palpable strain on the body. She got through by building physical strength through walking around.

I find it interesting that Thin Man's qualia theory appears to be a dead end.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: March 03, 2017, 11:59:29 am »
 :o So she's basically a creepy perky child?

To answer your question Marona, there was probably a barrier around the exit. Not the path itself. Meaning, remember how May had to build her physical strength? The fear thing was Eye's doing, as was the pain, and the despair. But the unseen barrier that May had to scoot past in Phase 1? This was probably kitty.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: March 02, 2017, 04:12:44 pm »
monimoni, she's probably a witch. As in, in this universe where the magic is fake, she's probably one of the few ppl (aside from CS3) who can use real magic.

It sounds like there is a back entrance.

Quote from: Oracle of Tao
Nevras: The back entrance...

 Sorry, inside joke. ;D

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: March 01, 2017, 08:23:02 pm »
I don't like the sound of this. I wonder if the cat will try to switch the girl and Maytag's places?

Still may, this reads too weird to be taken seriously.

On the other hand, these two may actually be that weird.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 27, 2017, 07:47:32 pm »
But but, it's their home! Think about the sentimental value. And stuff.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 21, 2017, 08:02:30 am »




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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 20, 2017, 05:04:52 am »
From this conversation we have established (1) they don't appear to have names, (2) they haven't actually told much useful, and (3) so far they aren't very trustworthy.

It's not clear whether this is still part of the Dark Cell, but she can probably treat it like it is.  Since there is nowhere to go from here, either she has to set about proving this part is false to get to the real end of Dark Cell, or if this is real we are to assume that May has to assume whether its a good idea to try to bring them back.

It's entirely possible that this "introduction" is some kind of riddle. Like, she introduced herself as Eye because May can see thanks to her.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 19, 2017, 04:12:21 am »
She was all blond as a child and had May's cold eyes.

In some sense, Yin Yang Goth Girl (I enjoy naming ppl) does represent a mirror of May's past. But typically this sort of highly individualized character represents either the author (the non-lobster aspect of this kinda rules it out) or the audience. Given that I personally own a cat, and do identify with light/dark color scheme, I'm gonna go with the idea that she is supposed to represent a generalized picture of the viewer. Ideally, she would look different for all readers, but I'm not sure than is possible short of W level art.

I kind of suspect this is supposed to represent another dimension. No discernible qualia, different rules and stuff.

And this is how you do introductions. Give an assumed name for yourself "and this is my friend" with no explanation of who or what your friend is.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 17, 2017, 06:46:40 pm »
I'm not sure if this is some kinda final trick. But I guess, let's trust this for now.


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 17, 2017, 04:08:24 am »
I think May and Bern could pass her off as a kid. What with May's jester motif just "she dyed her hair that way."

She definitely could stand to get out of this place. Just one issue though. The Dark Cell, is obviously a cell. The fact that is holding her, means she probably can't get out on her own. How does may take another person back? The first two phases were no sweat but the third she cut her eyes out last time. And that wasn't involving another person and a cat. It might also be a sort of fox, chicken, and seed deal when she has to go back and forth but certain combinations don't work well.

Also, can other people see her? She looked blurry at first.

Also, this video is somehow fitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XX1ZvT8aHg

Void Kitten sucks you in when you rub its whiskers.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 15, 2017, 04:32:49 pm »
It was a calculated risk. If she failed, what money she has now would grow her new eyes if Thin Man wouldn't himself. And there's always the possibility Little Miss Psycho Maid might decide to give her "special" eyes. Heat vision!  ;D

Maytag is a bit crazy, remember? This was a girl who was willing to cut off her own fingers to rescue Bern.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 14, 2017, 05:15:03 pm »
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3101

I thought so too, but then I read this one.

"I won't get my sight back from this, but it should dull the pain."

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3107

First four panels have her with no eyes or blank eyes (what you would get if you had eyes but were blind). It isn't clear from the black and white, but it is clear that she is blind.

Her sight was legitimately restored.

I thought it was mind over matter, but when she didn't restore herself afterwards, and used a potion, I was like "nah..."

Turns out she doesnt look like much. I wonder if this is because she has no set physical form, or just that maytag's eyes aren't up to seeing someone like her. Looks like a girl with a hat and a cat.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 14, 2017, 03:59:11 am »
May didn't do that. This little girl did with her whack to the head. No eyes->blind eyes->working eyes.

Anyone wanna lay odds on what she looks like? My theory? Magic isn't real, but that idea of demons that we heard about from Bloody Mary is actually true. There are other beings with tech and powers other than humans. The powers arent really magic so much as a sort of touch applied effect system (when she bopped her on the head, she rewired her brain to start cellular regeneration). This is why Marzia looks so creepy, shes one of the Moon Children (to reference Majora's Mask). So my theory is that she looks like Marzia's younger sister.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 10, 2017, 06:13:10 am »
Women as a whole tend to have slim arms. And there are other explanations, such as malnourishment. Remember, she hasn't had anything to eat in like... ever.

Scratch that. I looked again. The arm size is not much smaller than May, but the hand is that of a little kid.

We might get a backstory chapter, Andrea. If not, next one is probably Crest, since both May and Bern have done some sort of ordeal, and Crest hasn't really done much aside from determine some information that can't even be proven.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 47: Discussion
« on: February 09, 2017, 10:55:23 pm »
Women as a whole tend to have slim arms. And there are other explanations, such as malnourishment. Remember, she hasn't had anything to eat in like... ever.

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