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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:29:28 am »
There's two options. Along way back, to get Crest and the others to believe in the whole  Suspiria's parents are still alive thing Qtalda mind-controlled Crest and the others. Spells sometimes have side-effects and this is a paranoid halucination. Regina is seeing something different. This also accounts for the other three having strange behavior esp the suicide.

There are dimensional side-effects through keeping a portal open like that, and one of them is unstable reality. Suspiria for all her power, cannot see through different dimension so Crest seems crazy to her.

These are not mutually exclusive btw. Both can be true.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: February 11, 2018, 09:59:41 pm »
Glad you liked!  ;D

Also, it looks like time for a breakup.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: January 31, 2018, 06:08:03 pm »
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So, yeah, looking forward to seeing Suspiria face off with Melter, potentially with a fully-developed Bloody Mary by her side, but I suspect that they will be pwned by him.

Probably Jossed.

Melter helped Regina get that creepy crystal ball thingy and stuff.

And we've got at least some evidence that the Thin Man is a hero with bad reputation. His main crime is creating the X-Men (so to speak, they're monsters, but their powers are nothing to scoff at) and trying to reveal the truth (possibly stuff like this).

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: January 26, 2018, 04:38:33 am »
Judging from the picture, Brion's obviously on an acid trip... 😂

Pffft.  ;D

Also, at what point did... maybe it's just me, but I seem to remember the first chapter being called The Pit.  Which, in light of what is happening (towns changing suddenly), is unbelievably meta.

I'm reminded strongly of Bravely Default: Where The Fairy Flies


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: January 17, 2018, 08:05:42 pm »
Reality HAS been resetting itself. They just haven't noticed it until now.

https://youtu.be/iD-9xaUlg9Y?t=2m11s

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: January 10, 2018, 02:18:23 am »
Each iteration ends with them looking into that crystal ball. And begins at town.

But is Brion really wanted to mess with us, he'd send Crest back to Chapter 1.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: January 01, 2018, 02:45:51 pm »
I still think he's helping her.

Regina is probably causing this. Also, Melter is creepy.


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: December 17, 2017, 09:22:07 pm »
I seriously think he's here to help.  :-* Telling her about lucid dreaming, cuz this is some sort of dream distortion that makes people behave weird.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: December 14, 2017, 08:02:22 am »
I don't get what your saying here..

How is Crest being a jerk by refusing unwanted sexual contact that is about to be forced upon HIM? 
How is HE being a jerk by reminding Moby what she'd already rejected as 'Not the way she is'.. {ie. being Rapey}?

I think your seeing what you want to see.. projecting your hang up on his wording, onto the situation instead of any actual character flaw on Crest's part.

He's not being a jerk by refusing unwanted sexual contact. That's being assertive. He's being a jerk for wrecking her emotionally by driving the point home over and over again that she's behaving out of character.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3353

He could have stopped here. This (or just refusing to give the person raping any enjoyment), would probably be what Maytag would do.
Actually, tbh Maytag's patented approach to life is the acceptance technique, so she might even LET her rapist do whatever, just to deny him any enjoyment of having her resist (most rapists are also sadists).

But he didn't. He went on for two pages, telling a woman who is doped up on magical juices, how there's something "wrong" with her. When the two other messed up characters are about to stab themselves, having a third led to extreme guilt and shame is not a very "not a jerk" thing to do. I can't see this ending well, unless someone can break this effect.

Also, Crest has known Moby, what, two weeks? Where does he get off telling her what is or isn't her, after one date? There is definitely something wrong here, but I think that thinking Crest is unaffected is wrong. It's an Amplify spell.

  • Deadpan smoker got more deadpan
  • Vennice is more guilty about her treatment of Suspiria
  • Crest is more of a judgemental  jerk
  • Moby is a bigger rapist
  • Glyph is more upset about his player nature
  • Regina is stuck in a dream world with Melter

If we have someone not affected, it would be Regina, not Crest. Crest has probably caused Moby to later pull out her own knife.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: December 13, 2017, 03:10:15 pm »

Seeing how Crest dealt with Moby like a true Maytag would it's rather the 2nd easy one happening, but maybe i still cling to some hope that what happens started with the characters having these ugly feelings inside and the magic just made it stronger than it being complete mind control evil magic to do bad things. Also since we don't see what other two, meaning Vennice and Glyph, are doing with the knives, seeing Moby was defeated by Crest eyes and voice already, that should be more interesting to see as a result, especially since Glyph has someone to stop him in that moment, while Vennice was looking like someone who will cut her veins alone in the room to just bleed out without anyone noticing.

Seeing the result of Crest vs Moby I'm just disappointed, since I hoped Crest wouldn't get out of it so easy like usual, but maybe that's the boon of being the only male MC in this comic.

Since Regina seems to be in a dark zone, I assume she is actually asleep. Especially since she didn't respond much in the latter part. So, odds on him getting saved are not as good as you'd think.

Also, I willing to lay 10:1 odds that Lehm is NOT the bad guy in this story. It seems more like someone is running the government, from a sadistic kick of messing with people.

You might want to relook at Crest.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1437
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1441

He is not resisting and being a hero like Maytag. It amplified his jerkishness. Which just happened to screw with Moby's own issues.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: December 12, 2017, 12:14:12 pm »
Plot Twist: Brion's not really writing the story post Eye arc. Someone's mind is filling in the blanks sorta like Lehm's paintbrush.  :o

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:03:42 pm »
I'm not saying it isn't out of character.

I'm saying as a victim of a few "this isn't like you" moments and others where someone tried to guilt-trip me into certain behavior (biggest sore point for me is people who believe I'm a nice person also meaning I'm a pushover when they do exploitative behavior), there is a difference between similar and identical behavior. Not to mention there's moments sometimes, where you've promised to just keep friends... but then you get drunk, and are horny, and that's a bit more difficult.

But yeah, it's obviously a psychological spell.

Update: I still feel this way, even after trying to help a friend who was very much out of character. I don't feel like that's a cool thing to say even if it's the case.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:21:53 am »
i have an issue with this scene. Remember how I had issue with the rape? It's the same deal. Crest is guilty of the same thing that Moby is trying to do to her "this is what you want/this is not what you want, do this, do this instead." I'm sure all of you have read Green Eggs and Ham. How much sympathy did you feel with Sam I Am? If you're anything like me, you'd say "none." The guy bullies ppl tell them that this is what they REALLY want until they break down and try the thing. Did (what's his name) enjoy the eggs at Sam I Am's request, or did he merely humor the guy at vain attempt to finally be left alone. What kind of story is it where anyone is supposed to identify with the bully (hence the fact that Sam I Am is named wehile the other guy is just another victim in his worldwide quest to enslave all others under the banner of green eggs and ham :D )? No, nobody deserves to be raped, no one also deserves to be told what is and isn't their decision.

Spells like this can't generate something that isn't already there. She does have feelings for him, the difference is the intensity is distorted by magic. So telling her that her feelings, her decisions aren't real, is basicaly denying her agency. We have the right to make poor decisions based on our personal feelings, without being told "this isn't you" and led down a narrow path, just as we have the right not to be raped.

Yeah, I know this is a rant. But it's something similar to what I heard in church a couple weeks ago. Someone was praying when they had prayers and concerns, for her friend who had decided to skip the last round of chemo and instead pursue alt medicine, "I pray that she will see the error of her ways." I don't think you get to pray that kind of thing. Pray that even though you don't agree with it, it turns out okay. But don't pray for mind control.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 27, 2017, 06:46:50 pm »
Pffft, fairness.

Somewhere I have a FB post of three ppl stuck in... fecal matter.

One has significantly less than the others, and the two squawk at this, saying it's unfair that he isn't in as much as them. The point he immediately brings up is "shouldn't we be trying to find a way OUT of this crap?" It was a joke, but pretty spot on. When we tear down people who are actively trying to fix things, what good have we really done?

I happen to be white, but I give to charities and at my job I try to help all kinds of people out. I am not rich by any stretch, but people who would accuse me of "white privilege" and take my last dime would succeed only in making one less person help them out.

Crest does not deserve to be raped. Nor did May deserve to be stripped naked, or Bern/Polly to be sexually and financially abused. Life does happen, but we much never believe rape is part of "justice".

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 24, 2017, 01:55:53 pm »
Geez, you're rough!  :o

Also, not entirely true. This trope is common because men tend to have self-induced guilt for their entire gender for what the worst ones do.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Abuse

It's generally seen as hard or impossible to abuse men, but this is simply not true.

Bottom line, even if it were equal, Crest doesn't deserve this stuff any more than they did.


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 24, 2017, 05:21:48 am »
Oh don't misunderstand, I'm not saying I want someone like Glyph to off themselves. The exact opposite actually. I'm saying "feeling remorseful" doesn't tend to go well with "staying alive." Even though typically remorseless characters are likely the ones that everyone wants to kill off in either case.

Unless they've got an axe to grind. I've been watching Hollywood try to defend these molesters, and it's a prudish standard for us common folk but for Weinstein, who probably is unrepentant of all the people who screwed (literally), they defend him because they owe their jobs to him.

Also, I really really hate Moby. Even though Crest kinda does need to understand that his early behavior to Maytag wasn't cool. He was kinda all "let's make out" even after she was like... actually, I need to re-read this part to see if Crest remotely deserves any of this, but I'm gonna bet odds on "not a chance in hell."

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=195

Gasp, I knew it! Crest is evil.  ;D It looks like the only thing Crest is guilty of is being too decent (not a compliment, he basically told her that she's scum for cheating on her boyfriend).   

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 23, 2017, 08:03:05 pm »
Ironically, I think life is two unhealthy extremes.

To loosely paraphrase the Bible there is the person who says they are without sin (who "deceives themselves") basically an arrogant jerk who can never admit their faults. Alot of the reason people shy away from churches is because there are entirely too many moral Pharisee types here. This is why Jesus, if they were here today, probably wouldn't attend church.
But that's not the whole story. One of the first things God says after humans eat that fruit (it's not actually an apple), is "who told you that you were naked?" Now this sounds like a throwaway line but it's not. The implication here is that (without the fruit) they would not have a superego telling them "I'm naked, I should be ashamed!" Honestly, guilt's most of sin right there, not the action itself.

In science, the superego is often held up as a moral paragon, while the id and ego are looked upon as lesser drives. But tbh, if we had a little less misplaced guilt and more "this was definitely wrong, but I'll see what I can do" less people would commit suicide. Which is why I don't share your optimism about people who show regret dying or being punished. Yes they shouldn't be, but honestly, most punishment is actually self-inflicted.

From my life, 2/3 of it was, despite not being Catholic (like the link above), a struggle with working to prove myself, constantly falling short, and feeling miserable led me to an eventual struggle with depression. It was only after I read two secular books (why I don't believe in "holy" books anymore, my healing was not from the hotel Gideon but from the psych section) which helped me significantly: When Panic Attacks and The Gifts of Imperfection. Both were saying exactly the same thing, that humans spend entirely too much energy trying to be perfect, and measure up to others.

For my work the day before Thanksgiving, we had to mark notecards with a green dot and stick them into packs or 20. Between OCD counting and recounting these damned cards for quantity, and and the fact that my coworker seemed to be flying through this while my hands were fumbling through each card trying to unstick them from the pile, it was slow going. I got screwed up precisely because I started to compare myself to her. But the point is, I was thankful we got the job done regardless.

It's easy to beat yourself up and stuff but that's part of despair.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 22, 2017, 03:15:09 pm »
A woman needs a suicide like a fish needs a bicycle.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 20, 2017, 05:36:55 pm »
I'll say it again. There is something not right about these three.


Individually, these seem like separate actions. But all of these served to string Regina and Crest along, to get them to join up in this "investigation." It feels more like a Body Snatcher plot to me. Like at some point, they get their fangs in (so to speak) and try to change them into their way of thinking. 

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 17, 2017, 08:34:02 pm »
Yeah, they're giving the Phalanx a bad name. Or, if they were just hypnotized to act this way, they merely look weak. So, pretty much anyone besides Q'talda and that elderly guy who was able to resist Suspiria's hypnotism (but still died afair) reminds me of this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect

Maybe it's because the Phalanx had to be replaced almost entirely, so now there's a bunch of Noobs in power.

Are we in fact sure that Suspiria has hypnotism? Crest believes this, but Crest is also getting fooled by this weirdness. For that matter...
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=2839
This question remains. Not only is Suspiria in a position that her revenge couldn't be justified even with a confession, but it basically shows her as more confused than her allies.
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=2845
And this. Only thing that makes sense, Suspiria wasn't hypnotizing anyone, because she was controlled too.

Another thought.
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1819
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1821
Using scams and accomplices. I don't believe Mr. Smoker Guy is a bad, I think he's a dupe too. However...
  • Who led the party to that weird inn? (Glyph)
  • Who led them to the town of Convergence? (Vennice) Who asked for this info? (Glyph again)
  • Who verified the story of the parents when Mr. Smoker Guy believed he saw them for years? (Glyph, Vennice, Moby)
  • Who tried to seduce him?(Moby) And Regina? (Glyph)
   

We currently don't know what is in fact going on, but it seems like they aren't as innocent as they appear.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 16, 2017, 02:39:52 am »
Also, honestly, Regina is a better match than Moby for Crest. It seems like these matchups are designed for their rape leve vs anything else.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 07, 2017, 08:27:49 am »
You can't be a bearer, there is only one sword. Erm, pen knife.  ;D

But yeah, never let someone else's moral code get in the way of someone you love. Jill sounded really sweet.

It seems like my curse is that I whenever I do meet someone, inevitably they look 18 but are actually closer to 14, have a boyfriend somewhere far away, or they like me but not interested in anything serious.

I have someone I am into, but of course, they're moving away. Eventually.

Update: This is about politics, so I'll try to tone it down.

So, in my state, we had a vote on several governors and such. Yes, I am aware most people smear the republican candidate as a racist, because he was defending "racist statues." I'm sorry, but I believe I do know something about history since I majored in it. Lee wasn't a racist. It doesn't matter. What this is actually at stake is, "should this become a state that believes it is okay to behave like thugs and ignore rule of law (what they did is vandalism)." This is also a vote for higher taxes and unionization, which makes our bad economy even worse. And I know that most of the state in terms of districts actually voted conservative. I know because I have looked at the district map of Virginia and it looks incredibly red (he and the other lost because of big cities and the fact that our state is population rigged). So no, it isn't as if everyone stood and was like bulma sucks.

But it feels exactly like that. That the "town" (the state) is filled with people that there is something wrong with. And there is something wrong with me. I am filled with fear. Fear of my beloved state changing into something I cannot stand. Fear of all the customers gloating about politics like insufferable twits and me being like "get out NOW." Fear of something happening with my town. All I actually ever wanted was a nice quiet life. To be married to someone kinda normal. To settle down. Not to have a stress ulcer at age 35, or have my small town turned into some kind of suburb. I have to act calm tomorrow and I honestly just want to stay home and say fuck it. I literally cannot afford my insurance and do not want expanded mandatory insurance. I just want everything to go away...  :(

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: November 06, 2017, 05:20:44 am »
It's basically... all of us have stories we want to tell, either fiction or nonfiction.

Mine's largely fiction, though sort of autobiographical.

I was standing new a church one day, looking at a field of wheat and super-tired. I had this daydream of a girl standing in a white robe, carrying a sword. It was sort of Asian style usually either a katana or a Chinese sword, and the end of the handle usually had a chain tied to it, which had a heart attached, usually broken. The heart, not the chain.

When I wrote an RPG game, Oracle of Tao, this became part of the mythos. The girl became Anideshi, a sort of nature hero, that was cursed with reincarnation. Further backstory says this sword isn't even hers. The sword was possessed by an angel Cassiel (the Angel of Sorrow, of course) but it wasn't made by her. It was made by Yomi, the Reaper of Death, who originally used it as a tool. This doesn't come out until playing my second rpg, Tales from the Reaper. To spoil alot, one of the last chapters, Yomi and Seishii (Reaper of Birth, Reapers in this game are less killers of humansd and more like backstage crew of existence, the garden variety psychopomps are called Pales and are former humans) decide they love each other, and to keep existence from being destroyed, they agree to reincarnate a bunch. Yomi then, is actually Anideshi, which means she is rightful owner of the sword.

Now, about this sword. It's basically a sword that causes death. Hence the name. But it's also a sword of regret, which can revive others from death. And the chain extends allowing it to wrap around stuff.

The Sword of Sorrow, in the myth, actually turns out to be the "source of sorrow" as it is a corrupted phrase. The Sword symbolizes sorrow possessed by its  wielder, and its source. What is the source of sorrow, then? In game, it turns out to be loneliness I think. Which is another way  of saying that for much of my adult life, I was extremely depressed and viewed myself as cursed with loneliness. The Sword of Sorrow can also turn into a Sword of Love, because it's effectively the feelings of love/loneliness within the heart.

Curiously, besides the games I wrote, the sword actually exists. It's a letter opener! Back when I visited China we brought back a tiny letter opener that was modeled after a chinese sword, and I attached a chain I found somewhere to the other end, along with a heart made of rose quartz I got from part of a pendant. The sword usually tied closed by its own chain. I'll see if I can post a picture. Technically it's Bearer not Wielder, as I've never used this in any way. I also have a legit katana that I could probly get a jeweler or something to attach a long chain to.

Also, there is a Wuxia show online, called Legend of the Ancient Sword. The sword doesn't have any of the same characteristics, but is called the Sword of Burning Solitude. It's close, but this is kinda a fire sword, while the Sword of Sorrow is water and darkness mostly. Still, it's a fun show to watch.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 31, 2017, 04:54:22 am »
I feel this way all the time.

Update: If she starts eating glass, everyone should probably leave.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 26, 2017, 03:23:57 am »
They're almost like zombies. I think Regina must have knocked over a glass container of... something just to watch him crunching away.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 22, 2017, 11:06:15 pm »
Next she'll start eating ghlass.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 18, 2017, 04:35:19 pm »
Flipside forum keeps timing out, I think there is a glitch.

This scene made me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzw6nRnaQG0


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 17, 2017, 05:40:29 am »
Regina: Welp it's been fun but... gotta go.

:zooms outta there:

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 15, 2017, 01:36:13 am »
I initially thought the guy hoimself broke and reformed. But I'll keep that idea on the back biurner, and say the reason he:s bending down is that a wine or beer bottle broke (why hes bending over).

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« on: October 06, 2017, 03:29:11 am »
I'm not sure it's mind control either. I think some of the more perspective wizards (not necessarily stronger, tho Suspiria could) are able to sense something weird. Crest can't, explaining his behavior. It's some kinda reality ripple.

Like timeline 1: Crest is too shy to ask anyone out, Suspiria's parents were killed, Regina was dating what's his name, Bloody Mary killed 3 ppl, town looks one way.

Timeline 2: Crest is a hottie who has never had conversation troubles, Suspiria's parents were alive, Regina wanted to date Maytag instead, Bloody Mary kills more ppl, town changes.

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