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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 52: Discussion
« on: Today at 03:55:32 am »
sunphoenix, I imagine the reason it's just these three is they're the leaders of this group. And yeah there's alot of fallout from this thing. Glyph, Buzz, and the other girl all died (a knife wound is resurrect-able, I'd imagine, being dismembered and stuck inside a pit... a bit harder, though that might be a later quest, to get revenge on what did this).

Depending on the tone, think of a theme song for this chapter. I'm going say (Where Were They Going Without Ever Knowing) The Way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0wfu3tOrtQ

Oh, I didn't notice those shoulder hangers. That's cute!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: December 06, 2018, 05:00:21 am »
Oh, now I get it when I read somewhere in this forum that the ability might be something Suspiria used earlier already. Was the "No Spoilers" thing something Brion put into that post? Also that post seems to be gone now.

To clarify: The Instant Karma ability is closely related to the Retribution Doll Suspiria used to kill the Conclave. So when Crest got killed while the sword was inside his enemy, the ability was triggered.

I like that outcome! ^^ It was well thought-out.

It was probably one of my posts. I tend to analyze every frame of anime and webcomics, and as a result sometimes figure out some of why characters are able to do stuff before it is officially announced. I don't sweat it.

Oh, I didn't realize it came from that moment. I just figured since Suspiria is adding power to the sword, that's probably part of it. 

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: December 04, 2018, 05:05:57 am »
I think "use people" is the wrong word.

Maytag has three special skills:
  • Psychological resistance to pain
  • Natural charisma, bluff ability, and poker face
  • Her bag of tricks

CS3 is basically a bag of tricks, able to summon up stuff. And her charisma nets her some friends. Of course, them staying depends on earning CS3's trust, as that cat plans to take Eye and run.

I guess I'd compare her to a character like Kingpin. Except she weighs a little less. She has her personal strengths, but no powers except durability. But Kingpin is  attached to both Hydra and the Hand, both of which have a huge number of super-powered allies, to say nothing of his common thugs. Now, I don't see her as a crime lord, but let's consider. Maytag used to be alone. Then she found Bern. Then Crest. Then Glyph. Then Glyph's friends, and now she Suspiria in her party. She is not exactly party leader, but despite having Thin Man hunt her for her abilities, for awhile she had a regular entourage, all of which were pretty special.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: December 03, 2018, 09:35:00 pm »
@Kiran: Stories with characters like Suspiria in them are difficult to tell without giving a Deus Ex Machina impression. I've stated it above:

Suspiria has been shaping the world like a god, so as a writer it must be really difficult to not make something look like a Deus Ex Machina. I mean, the characters are currently dealing with someone who has the powers to create random Deus Ex Machinas all over the place as if they were in the Matrix and they need to figure out how to deal with someone like that. I think it's legit to assume that Crest's sword received an ultimate attack because of that.

While I do prefer Maytag and Bernadette over Crest, I also do prefer Mary and Suspiria over the others, so I'm perfectly happy with this arc. :) Okay, Mopey is still alive, but you can't have everything. At least Glyph died. 8)

@bulma:
Regarding OP characters, I am currently watching The Disastrous Life of Saiki K on Netflix. That guy is more OP than One Punch Man, but the series is hilarious. They deal with it mostly by giving him weaknesses and silly characters to interact with.

Yeah he is, I know the show. Yet despite him being much more OP they handle it by making it character-driven like you say. The problem with One Punch Man is that the story is basically all about him trying to find a worthy ally so it basically highlights just how overpowered he is. Whereas, Saiki K is about Saiki trying to entertain himself and slowly gaining friends despite himself. Pffft Teruhashi's literal glowing personality and Kaido's theme song literally kept me watching an entire first season in like three days.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: December 03, 2018, 09:21:43 pm »
I agree wholehearted... this Web comic has not solely been about just Maytag... or Bernadette... but all three of the main characters, May, Bern, AND Crest! It has consistantly and in my opinion given equal screen time to all three of the main characters. Bern got her power up so has Crest... I'm kinda waiting for Maytag to get hers but she has proven time and again... that she is a remarkable woman of substance who takes on ALL challenges head on and her Cummings and insightfulNess ARE her greatest power...and as yet have proven Matchless!  I cannot wait to see Maytag, Bernadette, Polly, Crest and Suspira all together again fighting against the threats of the world!!!

So you have my vote of confidence, Brion...keep up the great writing!!

I thought Eye and CS3 were her powerup. May's power has always been social not combat so it follows her "power" is gaining strong allies.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 23, 2018, 10:21:31 pm »
Suspiria has been shaping the world like a god, so as a writer it must be really difficult to not make something look like a Deus Ex Machina. I mean, the characters are currently dealing with someone who has the powers to create random Deus Ex Machinas all over the place as if they were in the Matrix and they need to figure out how to deal with someone like that. I think it's legit to assume that Crest's sword received an ultimate attack because of that.

While I do prefer Maytag and Bernadette over Crest, I also do prefer Mary and Suspiria over the others, so I'm perfectly happy with this arc. :) Okay, Mopey is still alive, but you can't have everything. At least Glyph died. 8)

As someone who is also writing a story about someone very OP (the story is called Oracle of Tao, and there's a video game of it, and I'm trying to make a novel), there are certain tricks to it.
1. Extremely slow caster (Grune from Tales of Legendia, most summoners, Ambrosia in my game, etc).
2. Make them turn out to be a villain (Sephiroth, also Grune sorta, alot of characters actually)
3. Make them turn out to be a deity (also Grune, also Ambrosia)

And of course there's kill them off, make them the Ace (what TvTropes calls a heroic background character), or introduce Kryptonite into the setting.

But this isn't an accurate  list because there are two others: make their powers have some sort of drawback or make them so strong that they have to hold back or blow everything up.

Ambrosia starts out with a sort of slow-cast tai chi power powered by tattoos, in the end of the first part she learns she is a deity but mainly what changes is that  her power is now kinda normal speed and stronger, she can't use her  deity powers (doing some means she takes up her power's responsibility and is hamstringed by its restrictions), and she get The Ace treatment until the ending where her daughter mostly takes the limelight.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 21, 2018, 07:45:26 pm »
Karma attack!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe2Pq3n9Euo

Kiran, I think some of your dissatisfaction about pacing is from the fact that you're confusing sword abilities for sword wielder.

In Bern's case, it wouldn't be much good except for a Split Rose wielder. In Crest's case, it took awhile for him to figure out that his sword is basically an extension of Suspi's feelings for him. When viewed this way, it's less a cheap giveaway and more something they managed by character development or skill.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 19, 2018, 01:03:33 pm »
That's uhhh really creepy that he has a freaking hole through his head and he's like "No Worries!"

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It's just easier to call her a *****. I tried to explain things, but mostly everyone froze cuz she went way off the rails.Everything that happened is a result of her screwing up with handling Suspiria.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 15, 2018, 11:51:21 pm »
Resurrection is out. According to what Brion told us about the process, brain injuries are no go. I have a few ideas, but we're gonna hold off with those for the time being. It's possible this is a really suck time loop that keeps repeating until Suspiria makes things right with Crest. The other option has something to do with a power that Suspiria used earlier. No hints.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 14, 2018, 03:10:28 pm »
 :o

I dunno what to think anymore. It's almost like someone shoved a large spike through my brain.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Mistake Thread
« on: November 12, 2018, 08:52:44 pm »
Fairy Tail is an anime show.  ;D

Fairy tales are fables.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 12, 2018, 06:02:37 pm »
If this were Fairy Tail, someone would step in front of the attack with both hands wide apart, then die. Or seemingly die, then recover later.

You're about 600 pages away from understanding the context anyway then, since the character I mean is still a background character. Why, you haven't even gotten to the cows yet!

Watching Man of La Mancha (Turner Classic Movies on DVR). Talk about a coincidence.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 12, 2018, 04:01:23 am »
There's a chance Crest's loud screaming will wake her up in addition to the sword working. Or instead of the sword working. I dunno.

i'm kinda reminded of something in Gunerkrigg Court. I mentioned it during the Japan Break? Well there's a scene where the talk about how a man sees a stone, and imagines a woman. Usually this would mean a sculpture, but there is girl whose body is like rock in terms of hardness.

The interesting thing is the story suggests humans imagined her into being in such a way as to predate them, ditto the stars in the sky. But that's a side idea. We do it every day, we take an ordinary girl by all accounts, and she becomes our Dearest. Or a bunch of lumber becomes our dream home.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 05, 2018, 02:54:42 pm »
...Oh!  :o

It's a sword made by her will.

Also, this sword doesn't look quite the same when he first got it, and now. I'm assuming that's NOT a mistake.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Japan Break
« on: November 02, 2018, 05:14:05 am »
We went to the UK, and it was awesome. Now it's kinda not. "Multiculturalism."

I guess my point being, it's like we visited a canal in China after college and they had this seaside art, like a mosaic fish. And townsppl be damned they were gonna build a new irrigation system cuz PROGRESS and that area was gonna rise to the point where the sculpture could no longer be seen.

You never know how someone's gona ruin the experience. When you said "hope we get to see it again" I just thought of how some countries I visited, I don't wanna go back cuz big government has tried making stuff homogenized, so there's nothing to see anymore.



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Flipside Discussion / Re: Japan Break
« on: October 24, 2018, 01:14:56 pm »
It's intended to be read from the beginning.

The links were to provide a cross-section so that you got a sense what the series is like.

Like, whenever I go to a new series, I have to adjust to the new one or I get a sort of "culture shock" since it's different from what I'm used to.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Japan Break
« on: October 23, 2018, 07:43:53 am »
It's that good. It's on par with Flipside, although between the two, Gunnerkrigg is far more goofy and funny. The art shifts a lot, just a heads up.

https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/index.php?p=1064
https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=42
https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=701
https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1319 (btw, two pages later they show how other characters see this scene)

A sample of the comic.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Japan Break
« on: October 22, 2018, 03:34:21 am »
We understand. But yeah, the suspense is killer (you just ended with Crest asking the right question, where none of us have any idea what this means). I think Gunnerkrigg Court is also on break. As are my parents  for the next week.

Sorry, didn't mean to do the Jewish Mother guilt trip thing. (Rants about how they'd like to see grandchildren)

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: October 18, 2018, 05:27:53 am »
You guys are missing something key here. Brion's work seems big on symbolic imagery. It's not really religious (I think Brion was on record once saying he doesn't believe in gods, meaning anything from a Buddhist or Taoist mindset, to nontraditional belief, to agnostic, to atheist) so much as a sort of powerful imagery.

There are things in our lives that are immortal. What is the first thing coming to mind? Depression. No matter how many times, it always comes back. People with other difficult to solve disorders like mania or hallucinations probably feel the same. 

This is not to say that Crest can solve their problems by therapy. It's saying the same approach works. How do you deal with something immortal? Well for the long term you figure out its source of power. Only something that truly is a deity is self-powered, everything else that is immortal has some Achilles Heel (like they have to feed regularly, or they need people there to remember them, or they're allergic to milk (who knows what movie I'm talking about)). Maybe a final boss type deal, getting rid of the evil thing in our life that won't go away. But for the short term, the solution to such a creature is one of three things: get past it, trap it (sealing is a big option in games like Final Fantasy V), and strip it of its power (the last of these sometimes overlaps with a permanent solution, unless it is able to regain power).

Update: Everyone watch the anime Lost Song. It gives very good insight on what it's like to be immortal.

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Okay, Lehm not actually getting true answers is a possibility as well.

What does "demons of the Vorpal Sea" mean? Google doesn't appear to give me anything that makes sense in this context. "Demon of the Sea" was apparently another name for "Moby Dick" (which is a funny reference to flipside btw. XD) and the Vorpal Blade from DnD can decapitate on a crit.

From the points you're making it gets more and more clear that in a comic where you don't know what's actually real, literally anything could be the case.
But at least we can stick to the knowledge we got from intermissions, e.g. that an increase in levels means that you don't get more "mana", but your efficiency at using your soul energy increases.

It was earlier, on Mary's arc. Suspiria dismissed it as religious nonsense, but laughing chef (Lehm's cook/backer for his experiments) and our priest here kinda seem otherwise.

We also learned from time with Lehm that Eye's power (and possibly that of Moss) are not necessarily magic (the thing about the radius actually doing away with magic), since there is a biological aspect to it. Which lends to the idea there may be actual "curses" as well as magic, and these "demons" are messing with things.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: October 05, 2018, 12:33:41 pm »
Moby, why do you say you're no good at flying magic? You have a flying carpet and you did carry yourself AND Crest in search for Suspiria.
Also: Why didn't you bring it with you? Eh, nevermind, the Phalanx in general didn't seem to think about bringing all kinds of magical gadgets with them.

She's a seamstress. She moves the thread, she doesn't levitate anything. Also, her carpet kinda got eaten.

Welp, that's it. Crest got 51 chapters, but Brion must be doing a Kill Em' All Tomino thing. Maybe.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: October 01, 2018, 09:14:49 pm »
The Pit is actively trying to kill people. Suspiria is making it worse. But notice there's no meat-grinder here. And I'm not convinced she is actively doing this either. Kinda more like when you have a bad mood about getting hired to a company, and sure enough, you wind up doing something to jinx it. Now imagine someone whose negativity causes huge ripples in events.

http://faculty.virginia.edu/perlab/pdf/ZadraCloreEmotPercept.pdf

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: October 01, 2018, 06:49:17 pm »
Ah, it turned out to be Regina. She should have retaken the test.

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Well, to be clear, he is a truth specialist, how keep in mind Lehm's power is assumed to be one power level above normal (although it could be more). This means his abilities may or may not reflect actual reality. That is, they may reflect reality only to the limits of his emotions not being in the way, not necessarily recognizing the limits of himself or of reality in general. Or to put it more directly, his observations may be acceptable for basic things like finding a match to his experiments, but may have bias or outright delusion when it comes to reality itself.

For the sake of argument, let's assume he's partially right. From what we seem to have observed so far, there are microscopic organisms which are capable of altering matter mostly by chemical means (and consuming live organisms, based on that Decay spell). It also seems like that demons of the Vorpal Sea thing appears to be more correct than we thought. It's even possible some of these have supernatural abilities, and by extension it seems like they have altered humans in some way. It's possible either of these ideas have some merit, although it seems unlikely that  both do. We have heard that there is no evidence that the brain is altered, so it possible that it is (a) an increase in latent magical ability that everyone has, that is the  dissolving test actually is just a placebo, making people aware of more and thus able to do more, or (b) it installs some sort of remote control implant which allows the Qualia to receive a stronger signal.

The problem with b is that things like magical efficiency don't really make much sense, nor do much of this scene (why would these critters bother to show up in the bottom of a pit)?

The other option is that it uses a sort of mental energy (similar to PSI or faith), which is internal to the caster. To explain it in simple terms, it's like Flat Earthers. It's possible to awaken to a mind-blowing idea that changes your whole paradigm (dissolves what you believed before). Before, you were like "nah, man, the Earth is round." Suddenly, after you believe the new thing, you may find events reinforce the belief ("I can't see past the horizon", "that plane had to go north to get from US to China", "my friend seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth, maybe it's not my crazy behavior and they actually did"). True or not, paradigm changes create a sort of personal bubble.   

Both theories account for the insanity exhibited by high level types that haven't mastered the later dissolving tests. In the one case, the paradigms you believe have no sense of self or reality, meaning you are literally reinforcing crazy ideas (very similar to what seems to be happening to Suspiria) without having a sense of "let's verify this." In the other case, without the proper control device, the mental energy of the person has developed, but the Qualia are not properly in control, and attacking the user's brain (as in actually chewing on her psyche).   

Interestingly, qualia literally refers to stuff that is observed as different for everyone. That is, I have no idea whether you are reading the same thing as I'm trying to say. This could well explain why Thin Man believes in Qualia, whereas Melter is talking about her perception of reality. Maybe it is that subjective.


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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: September 28, 2018, 12:24:45 pm »
Page 38 is up! He fell and then the fall lines kinda look like they changed. Flattened out.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3709

Hmmm, it's possible the Dark Pit made an "unauthorized move" so to speak.  It looks like Suspiria may actually care for Crest for reals, at least enough to want him around. Thanks, Suspiria!  :-*

Of course, Moby and the others may still be ummm "voted off the island" so to speak. But it looks like Crest's not dead just yet.


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Flipside Discussion / Re: are the forums dead?
« on: September 28, 2018, 10:14:09 am »
Having tried twice to make my own forum, and failed miserably both times (the forum was made for free, and wasn't attached to any other pages), I can say with certainty... sometimes you just make too many sections. People retain interest in certain topics, and really, this website might be better served with a Disqus page, since the posters are mostly interested in the website itself (but this doesn't allow side announcements, like the making a Live Action.

I do think Flipside could take stock of inactive sections and possibly wipe them in favor of a cleaner forum with only a few sections.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Who will survive?
« on: September 26, 2018, 01:17:14 pm »
Argh, let's all stare blankly in shock while the heroic dude gets blindsided again.  :o Because that hasn't happened before (ahem, Buzz, Moby herself, Crest, pretty much everyone but Regina for some reason, Mary who would just regenerate, and Melter who is kinda a freak anyway).  :-\ Oh you could, you know use some sort of teamwork? Nahhhh.  ;D

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:30:02 pm »
That sad-faced skeleton is so hilarious! ;D

@Bulma:
Oh right the healing sword. If it can counter Death&Decay, a stoner surely is no problem.
Interesting that the skeleton doesn't get healed by it. Now to find out if he's going to heal Moby with it. Hopefully he stabs her in the eye just for the lulz.

I don't understand the tone thing. You mean as in inevitable peril? Because for me the tone in phase 3 had a cold finality to it, while the current scene is full of hot action. Also gore.

I actually totally called it. It seemed like that sword is like Sesshomaru's Tenseiga. Heal the living, hurt the undead/demons.

The pervasive despair, I mean. The feeling that we, the viewers are watching something hopeless. Of course, if Phase 3 is any guide, not really the case.

The action is more active, yeah, but the whole deal where super-cool stuff happens, but nope, fails. Buzz and Glyph being all heroic are two good examples. Then it was Melter actually losing grip. Crest is the first guy so far that succeeded in doing something awesome with nothing poking out and impaling him... (here's hoping that thought isn't interrupted)

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Who will survive?
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:25:58 pm »

Although an earlier arc DID say Mary dies tragically at some point. Maybe she dies saving the rest?
Oh. Who said that and when? Did you mean someone in an earlier arc predicted the future or did Brion disclose it during an arc discussion?

It was RIGHT after the end of the Mary eating May's arm arc.

They mentioned Mary settled somewhere for awhile, and then said something like that. But I can't seem to find it...

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