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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: July 18, 2018, 10:35:17 am »
This WRONG on oh sooo many levels!

Melter is being heroic... Mary is defending and protecting people!... Crest has the opportunity to truly be heroic.. and he goes catatonic..

Thing in the pit.. Ewwww.. 'runaway, Runaway, RUNAWAY!!!'

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: July 13, 2018, 07:51:21 pm »
Didn't know about the "Final Quest."  I only read up to and including Kings of the Broken Wheel.  The original 20 issue comic (first 4 volumes of the graphic novels) are still my favorite.

OH MY Dear Brion.. there is Soooo much more to the story than just that... and it ALL Good.. look further... there are many more quests after that MANY MORE!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: July 12, 2018, 08:17:05 am »
Oh YEAH!  I'm with Ms bulmabriefs on this.. love the story progression.. have not been bored with with Crest is doing to the least!  Like how his character has developed.. though I wish he'd been more decisive in his feelings about Suspiria... perhaps he will get a chance to redress that soon.

And ... oh Crap.. they are all in the crapper now..WTF?  What IS the pit... is it sentient or does a malevolent intelligence reside within or control it?  Whatever it is some form of reality manipulation or perception modification is clearly within its power.  If the whole keep/castle is under its control like this.. this could really be bad for everyone...not just those currently threatened by its rapaciousness.

And YES, ElfQuest is my most favorite storylines.. and recently the Final Quest ended and I'm saddened by not just the end of the story... but how it ended.  I will Howl for the lost all the rest of my days as well...

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: June 11, 2018, 05:46:14 am »
...weeellll... THIS has turned truly horrific.  Please Suspiria.. 'break the world shell' and save everyone!  "For the Revolution of the World!"

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: June 06, 2018, 04:40:28 am »
Uhmmm... I think we are going to meet our first 'Demon'.  That... being, Melter is attacking was never human to begin with! 

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: May 25, 2018, 08:39:29 am »
Thank goodness she's still ...there!  Perhaps, changed ~ within a 'stony' chrysalis?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: May 16, 2018, 02:36:56 pm »
COME ON CREST!!! Go to her... take her in your arms and just hold her. Make her feel that you are still with her....!!!! She's in real danger of literally self-destructing... remember her mind can warp  reality her anger and frustration  could easily turn inward and kill herself.... please Help HER!!!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: May 14, 2018, 06:17:58 pm »
Quote
As a bit of advice to Crest ~ "Don't believe in the you that believes in someone else, don't even believe in the some one else who believes in you... Believe IN YOURSELF!"

That was totally not super-confusing at all!


{Sigh}.. If I have to explain it it looses is poignacy... like explaining a joke...

"Don't believe in the you that believes in someone else..." ~ Crest: "I'm just a stupid kid from a backwards town! I'm only here because I was tagging along with Maytag and Bernatte!"

"..don't even believe in the some one else who believes in you..." ~ Crest: "You think I'll just open my mouth and magically say something that will fix this? As if I'm Maytag or something?"

"Believe IN YOURSELF!" ~ Crest:  "I'm a tagalong! That's it!"

... I don't think I need to explain the inference his words suggest about his views & feelings of Maytag and Bernadette... and himself.   Its clear he idolizes Maytag and Bernadette and beleives in them.. and that he is isnpried by the fact they trust and believe in him enough to let him follow them in their adventures.  But he clearly does not think he can be like them as decisive, wise, insightful or courageous.

Crest is having a Simon moment... {Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan}

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: May 12, 2018, 04:07:04 am »
That is  ~ presumed. Presumed Crest is under some influence from her.. its not proven.

As a bit of advice to Crest ~ "Don't believe in the you that believes in someone else, don't even believe in the some one else who believes in you... Believe IN YOURSELF!"

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: May 09, 2018, 07:01:42 am »
Crest - "What AM I supposed to do?!?"

KISS HER YOU FOOL!  Tell her how you feel about her!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: May 05, 2018, 07:03:59 am »
Hmmm...  that seems somewhat out of character for the Phalanx 'leader',  is there some other kind of reality warping going on here?!?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 30, 2018, 05:15:01 am »
@ Kamui {love your handle, by the way} = Totally agree.. whether Suspiria loves Crest or he's being affected is really immaterial to the point that really matters is getting Suspiria to realize she is manipulating things around her to alter reality and help her learn to control her powers and not do that anymore.

@ Bulmabriefs = Yeah... but I'm of the opinion that Love is used often as a catch-word explanation for many things and most of the time the wrong connotations are assigned to it.  True Love is more about the person loved and not about yourself.  When you truly love someone.. you care more about them than yourself, not about possessing their affection not about having the affection you feel for them returned. Love is not selfish. Before her powers were boosted she gave Crest that unique magic sword the SHE crafted for him.. it was clear she really liked him...not because he was like Kin but because he was Crest... kind, honest, ...a little shy but thoughtful, loyal and heroic in his own way.

My point is if Suspiria really loves Crest, I think he would be the LEAST affected of all those around her.  She did not try to possess Crest's affection when she changed she did not try to consummate her affection for Crest!  No, she kissed him goodby - because she loved him she did not want him anywhere near her to be caught in any danger from her actions!

'Why did Starlord try to shoot Gamora?  Because she asked him to promise to do so... and he loves her...so her wishes are more important to him than his own needs, to the point he's willing to hurt himself to do as she asked...because he loves her!'

"Love is not about yourself.. its about the one you love."

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 23, 2018, 07:39:47 am »
OK.. first of all... BWahahahaha! That video was Terribly cute.. and hilarious!

Second, BAM... ok.. you're right.. I'm convinced.. I could SOOOOO see Mrs Mariah Carey as Maytag's voice! Wow!


EDIT: Ok.. Darn you Bulma! I can't get that "I will hunt you down...", out of my head..all day long been singing that! I'm charmed! LOL! Thx!  ;D

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 22, 2018, 11:51:38 am »
Hmmmm.... I've always felt Bern had a gentle soft voice.... not tomboish but very feminine. She doesn't like violence and always tries to peacefully resolve things she is never 'thinking with her swords'... before the arena she was pretty much a pasifist.

Hence why I think the warden took so much.... disappointment in her because she has the spirit of a warrior but the gentleness of a rose.  In all Bern's speach shes seemed soft-spoken not given to bombastic or angry outbursts.... certainly not one to be yelling or speaking in anger.

But maybe I'm reading too much into it?

Oh yeah indeed Lady Gaga has an amazing set of pipes in her voice!   I could see  Maytag with a very wide range... but I do think when she has her eyes in that serious hooded look her deadly serious voice is low smokey in a dark but soft husky tone.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 22, 2018, 03:06:52 am »
Tee-hee... Moby is cute...  :-*

Hey Brion... do you ever think of your characters 'voice'?  If they have like accents or a specific tone quality?

I think Moby would sound a lot like the animated Harley Quinzel.. from the Batman Animated Series... kind of a New Yorker accent...

What voice actors would you give them if you had a choice?  What do you think your character's sound like? 

I'm really curious about Maytag and Bernadette.  Personally I think Bernadette would sound like the voice of the Unicorn/Amalthea from 'The Last Unicorn' animated movie ~ Actress, Mia Farrow..

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 20, 2018, 08:55:06 pm »
Y'know, I'd be several shades of scarlet shag-carpet... if someone declared all those kind of complementary things about me! lol.

... I think Crest is still stunned by it all! :)

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:21:53 pm »
Yes indeed, Mrs Briefs... I concur entirely!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 13, 2018, 05:41:41 am »
WRONG Moby!

Crest is holding the Sphere of Antimagic.. HE 'Right NOW' is the LEAST affected than anyone present... if he still loves Suspira..
then it most CERTAINLY is HIS Love, not from any outside influence!!!

'Cause you'll be in my heart
Yes, you'll be in my heart
From this day on
Now and forever more
You'll be in my heart
No matter what they say
You'll be here in my heart
Always!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 11, 2018, 11:32:28 pm »
I'm easily confused, but when did Chrest get that orb?

Here...

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3431

Last chapter.

Moment of truth.. no more stalling Crest.. How do you REALLY Feel for Suspira?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 05, 2018, 04:58:33 am »
OH MYyyy! The Divine Red Lobster Speaks! :)

Lol.. thanks for the input Brion...and please don't read too much into our 'arm-chair' commentary..{snicker}... I for one GREATLY enjoy your story as it unfolds.. but point taken about applying 'real-World' logic to a fantasy world!  :-*

I just hope Suspiria can forgive herself and Crest can forgive her and still care for her even if her reality is not what she believes it to be!  "With great power come Great Mental Illness!"

But it would be a shame for her to loose her sanity and love merely because she is like a Super Dr. Strange, I hope Crest can step up to the plate with his own compassion.. and SAVE her from that!

As the Bards of Jefferson Airplane put it well... if repetitively ~

"Don't you want somebody to love
Don't you need somebody to love
Wouldn't you love somebody to love
You better find somebody to love, love"


Perhaps...that's the key to her sanity as Crest 'seems' to be the one person unaffected by her reality warping?  Because... Suspiria loves him...

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: April 02, 2018, 06:05:44 am »
Hmmm... considering your points... that seems reasonable and does explain the events in the plot the way things have unfolded.  I can see your point and agree.  This must be where Byron is going with the story and the events do support it.  I'm convinced...

Man I feel really sorry for Suspiria.. how does one control one's own subconscious if it has access to such power without your active control?  That must suck, its the Krell of "Forbidden Planet" all over again!

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 30, 2018, 02:46:51 am »
Hmmmm... this is...a slippery slope here.  I'm almost always immediately suspicious of some one who tells me that your perception of reality is not what you think it is let ME tell you how it really is.

In MY case I would say... ok if you think your view of reality is 'clearer' prove it with facts convince me of the veracity of those claims with evidence.

BUT case in point here... Melter's 'claims' don't have to have ANY conclusive evidence cause his proof is 'oh your rewriting reality subconsciously so facts and memories are not going to prove anything... just trust what I'm saying is true.

WHY should Suspiria believe him at all?  He has brought no hard evidence to support his claims and if he was interested in convincing her she is mistaken.. why did he not just bring her living parents there to speak to her?  IF he knows her parents are alive and he wants to convince her that she has rewritten the conclave's memories why didn't he do that in the first place?

AGAIN.. why is it so complicated that SHE, Suspiria, is the one making the Conclave ALL of them behave like scheming evil murderers and NOT the conclave leader as well ~ by "altering their memories unconsciously"... if memories CAN be altered that way...

Occam's Razor ~ Is it STILL not simpler that Qtalda ~ who has motivation, and power to do so has CONSCIOUSLY altered everyone's memories to serve her own purpose to conceal HER murder of Suspiria's parents?

If I were Suspiria I'd then say bring forth these people who claim to be my parents and let me question them... if memories can be altered and people EVEN brought back to life by magic... let me question them and see for myself if they actually are my parents or if that is simply what they've been mind altered to believe!

Honestly.. this ALL seems like the writer trying to write himself out of a plot hole... not a serious criticism it happens.. but the drama of Suspiria taking on the entire Conclave and winning was a real high point in the story as far as I'm concerned.. and I'm not so willing to "let it go in favor of a new direction"... without good solid storytelling to justify it.  THIS just all seems too Deus Ex-Machina...to me.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 27, 2018, 05:24:51 am »
Yeha, I get why convincing Crest might be important to any strategy to talk Suspiria down ,but how would Melter know anything about the relationship between Crest and Suspiria? Crest has not been exactly  publicly declaring his love for her on the street corners! In fact he's not really discussed his feelings for her with anyone directly confirming or denying one way or another. Moby inferred that he might still be 'hung up' on her but Crest never confirmed one way or another...  as usual Crest has been rather shy in expressing his feelings about any woman openly. He has shown himself to be a rather private young man. And the only one alive who we can identify who was there when Suspiria declared her love for Crest IS Crest and Qtalda. I don't think Qtalda and Melter are on speaking terms. So how would Melter have any clue that getting Crest to agree with him is the key to Suspiria?

As far as reality warp affecting time.... I'm not sure I can agree with that for one reason we know the source of "magic" in this world it is not 'Magic' at all! Matter and energy manipulating buy altering nanites ~ qualia, I can go with; but time/space altering, how could such massive reality temporal alteration with such very specific details be done with out massive machinery or horrible temporal paradoxes be created? I'm just not buying that.

I again fall to "Akum's Razor" (sp?).... isn't the simplest answer more likely that Qtalda did in fact murder her parents and has simply used mind altering 'magic' on people to cover her tracks?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 26, 2018, 02:03:35 pm »
That would make her the most powerful wizard .... likely ever!!! But I must agree.... that could be what actually is going on. But what seems wonky about it is this.... if she has the power to make the Enclave leadership admit to things they did not do because she can impose her perceptions on reality.... why is it Crest and the rest of the Phalanx seem to even be able to question the reality as she imposes it? Would not their actions and minds be altered as well to fit her imposed paradigm?

And, why is it so important for Melter to get Crest... a non-spellcasting jafo to agree or validate his claim? Why is Crest being put on the center stage here by Melter?  Why is Crest's acceptance more important the the phalanx wizards present?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 25, 2018, 05:12:36 am »
If her head 'no pun intended', has not been messed with by Lehm 'Thin-man' and Company... then there is no reason not to suspect that the events that Crest witnessed did not proceed as we saw in the comic.  HE WAS there when the Enclave ADMITTED to siding with Qtalda in killing her parents to gain control of her.  If I recall correctly, they even threatened to 'take care of' Crest for witnessing it all as they effectively told the Enclave leader he was a mere puppet-head and they had been doing things on Qtalda's orders for some time

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 15, 2018, 06:51:13 am »
Y'know... Melter is kind cute in that creepy kid way.  I think he is actually trying to help Suspiria work her way mentally through the power coursing through her.  Weird as that is...

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 12, 2018, 08:12:10 pm »
Wwweeelll now... 'Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it!'

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 11, 2018, 07:10:47 am »
Or.. considering what we know of the world's "true" nature of magic... those spurs are nano-reserve/production factories that either construct and/or store more Qualia than any normal person would have access to.  But you are right Suspiria, may very well be a Level 6 Sorcerer!

I hope Crest gets to kiss her before she vanishes again... she needs some one to tell her she is NOT a monster!

I, at least, think she's beautiful... strange and out of the ordinary... but no less in need of OR deserving of love.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: March 01, 2018, 05:20:20 am »
Clearly... Crest has A LOT of influence over Suspiria.  Its sweet!  :-*

...And I am none too worried about Marry carrying a scythe weapon!  Melter must be VERY powerful.. he did not flinch at Suspiria's threat... either that or he knew she would not lash out at him but if he's so confident.. why the armed Mary Escort?

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 50: Discussion
« on: February 27, 2018, 10:34:06 pm »
Well Clearly Lehm is not the one calling all these shots... but who has the power, the ruthlessness and ambition to plot all of this... Qtalda... she may be working with the Psycho Chef to make monsters.  Why ... to make a straw threat for her to show the inadequacy of mages serving the public good to put forth the need for a Magocracy.. where Wizard's do in fact rule and force there will upon ordering society  all in the name of "common good" against such threats that she is secretly in cohoots with making.  She has already effectively from behind the scenes seized control of the Conclave then she effectively manipulated Suspiria into eliminating them as a unified force that could either oppose her or out her from those who were secretly supporting her efforts from within the Conclave.

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