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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 18, 2011, 03:14:27 pm »

Yay for new battle lines! First over Bern's personality, now over who Crest should date!

Hmm not feeling Regina and Crest tbh

As of right now I am in the same boat. Don't know why, but just not feeling it either. I could see why they make a good couple. Hopefully we'll see more of her.

As for today's page, I kind got a feeling that Blackbird will try to steal a kiss from Bern next update ^^

I got this same vibe. I really think Bern is going to be put to the test here. Could you imagine if Bern and Blackbird did start doing something naughty and the ring turns on...

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 15, 2011, 12:26:13 pm »

I don't know what to think of Inverness' response here...

Yeah, I expected a little different myself. Maybe she just wanted to end it before it blew up into something bigger, kind of like xrdn suggested.

...What if Melter was only doing a follow up check?
...What if Suspira has already been worked on before in her life?
...What if Thin Man is responsible for Suspira reaching Level 3 sorcery without Disolving tests?

That's an interesting idea that didn't cross my mind. I'll have to track down that scene again when I get off work. I don't remember that to well right now to really comment. I hope that she is not one of his experiments.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 14, 2011, 09:42:47 am »

OMG! It must be my birthday! Or Christmas. Page 17, wooohooo!

They are both right tho. If you want to go to the extreme, then it is all Suspiria's fault since it was her idea to go, cuz if they weren't there, Kin wouldn't have had to make the choices he did. But regardless it was still Kin's choice to follow her on this "mission" and then to face Mary alone. I like that she recognizes she is not completely innocent. I have a feeling Crest will say more or less the same as I did about it being Kin's choice to do what he did. They will have a bit of a fight, one will walk away, Suspiria will show up at Crests place for make up sex and live happily ever after.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 13, 2011, 10:29:38 pm »

I doubt May would feel badly at all over infidelity by Bern

As much as I agree with this, I would hate to see it. I would hope she would be hurt that Bern broke her promise at least. But I feel that May would just forgive on the spot without a second thought. Bern will be dying inside with the guilt, that's obvious enough. Bern doesn't like hurting May. She felt bad after yelling at May for the nude drawing and didn't want her to cut off pieces of herself during the Derricks stand off. I could see Bern starting... like making out and getting into bed with (can't remember person's name. Wanna say Jack, but that's what I'm drinking), but would stop before things got to far.

so who thinks crest will rrrreeeeaaaallllyyyy screw this up or will he be a man help Suspiria

This wont faze him at all. Suspiria would be the one to mess this up. He seems to care enough about her. I still love the "sleep with me" moment, where all she really wants is Crest to be there. I hope this works out between them.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 13, 2011, 12:34:42 pm »

i thought she'd be the one to break the mold and actually be as confident and capable as she said she was.

I think she is as capable as she says, but I know what you mean. I feel that Suspiria never had "suffered" before and now with the death of Kin, she's received a rude awakening. Maybe if Kin and Suspiria had take the Bloody Mary situation seriously, I feel they took it as a game, things may had turned out differently.

As for the false confidence thing, the only person who doesn't suffer is Crest, unless I missed something. He seem to suffered a lack of self confidence and he is slowly finding his balls. I like that no one is perfect in this world. Makes everything a little more plausible and helps, me anyways, to get into the story more.

Tho I should have seen this coming, if she behaved like she did during the Bloody Mary situation, then yeah, it's easy to see why no one likes her. I hope she will learn and grow from this. She showed us she has the power, now we just need to see if she's mature enough.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 12, 2011, 02:59:34 pm »

LOL, thanks for that image of Crest getting raped. He's all tied up with a gag and Suspiria in a dominatrix outfit holding the sword saying "this will only hurt at first, but you'll learn to love it".

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 12, 2011, 01:13:14 pm »

Lol, Crest has been getting the crap kicked out of him during his training. But I know what you mean, he has gotten away pretty clean compared to some of the others. May cut off her pinky finger to save Bern and was will to lob off her breats and had/let her whole arm be eaten, Bern almost died, and all that has really happened to Crest is a bitch slap from Voulger when he tried to stand up for May, and almost had his eyes cut out during the poke game. But almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...

I don't think that he will be kidnapped, but he'll try to play hero and get a royal beat down.

Or maybe the "Student" will get mad and light him on fire or "force push" into a stone pillar, breaking all the bones in he body. Wow... for a character I like, I'm really thinking of some mean things to happen to him, lol.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 12, 2011, 10:17:53 am »

(hey if you stab some one with a healing sword what happens???)

Lol, I think the pointy end would still hurt someone, but it's a funny thought. i would be interested to learn more on how it works. Like how fast does it heal and how major a wound. Is it one of those items that needs a special word, like the Angels Breath, for it to work or does it just slowly heal you when you become injured. I have a feeling we'll get to see it in action.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 11, 2011, 10:27:42 am »

lol charles, that would make this complete. It has been fun.

It wasn't even a discussion leading up to the event, it was Bern walking in on the act and then a conversation.

Kinda... Bern walked away... it was May that went after her started the conversation. May could have just finished it, and then talked to Bern, or even not talked to Bern about it all together. But you are right, it was the first open discussion they had about this topic. Baby steps rights.

I do believe that both are at fault in the own respect. But I find it hard to believe that not being open and honest early on would have "doomed the relationship" (not your words, but slightly exaggerating them). But I do wonder what would have happened if May didn't try to sleep with Crest, well, tell him she had a "boyfriend". It seems like his "You're scum" comment/scolding really got to May and opened her eyes. I love how he was more hurt for the "boyfriend" then anything else.

I'm torn right now... I wanna see this thing with Crest and Suspiria unfold, but Bern running into Blackbird could get very interesting. I'm on the fence about wanting her to have an indiscretion with Blackbird. As Kiran said, Bern's strong stance on being a one woman woman, is something to admire. It takes a lot to fight temptation (god I sound like a priest). But I kind of want Bern sleep with Blackbird to see how she'll handle the emotional aftermath. I think she would hide it, feeling like she was weak, selfish, and petty but then come out about it as her after her conscience beat her into submission months down the road.

*****

I think Kin knew what he was getting into, and you're right, he could have made a lot of different choices. I'd like to think he make his choices out of honor and duty, but they seem just as rash as Suspiria's actions. Also both of them didn't seem to take the situation 100% seriously. They almost seem to be playing around like it was a game.

I have a feeling that Suspiria might be an emotional chameleon (might not be what I'm looking for but it's the best way I can describe it). She acts how ever the person she is with acts. But I have a feeling the rage she felt after Kin died was true, who wouldn't go crazy if your loved one died. Maybe Kin's death was a wake up call for her. Be it a harsh wake up call... And we don't know who this "student" is yet. Maybe she was a past lover of Kin or maybe a childhood friend and blames Suspiria for his death. As much as I would love to see Crest belt her one, I'm gonna wait to see how this plays out a little more. There are so many ways this can go.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Vote Incentive Request Thread for July 2011

« on: July 09, 2011, 10:19:40 pm »

I'd like to see Crest in an action pose with a sword and shield if possible.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 09, 2011, 07:43:12 pm »

I've been wondering actually if Suspiria's gradual personality change has had something to do with Melter's time alone with her when she was unconscious. I'm still terribly curious to know if Melter did something to her.

I didn't even think of that. If Melter wanted anything from her, he would have taken it then. They seem to be more interested in Maytag. If he did do anything to her, I'm going to guess either mind control or listening device/spell. If it's mind control, it's very well that the Portals Suspiria game them are rigged, as charles suggested, to port her where he wants. If it's the listening device/spell, he knows when and where to set an ambush. This could get good.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 09, 2011, 12:51:48 pm »

I'm not saying that Bern needs to be like May, that wouldn't make any sense. But I would like to see Bern be more trusting. We know May is trying to be loyal. There have been a few chances May could have taken to break that promise, but she hasn't. I understand why Bern isn't 100% trusting. But you have to get to a point where you either trust someone or you don't.

I don't think Bern needs to "open up" about sex, she obviously enjoys it and wants it, but just with May. And power to her for that. I have no objection to only wanting to be with one person. I like the fact that she stands firm with her ideals on that. Where my rub is, that Bern, to me anyways, doesn't trust May enough. (see above). I understand Bern not liking the "Slave" idea. I don't think I have ever heard someone say "looking for submissive slave to clean my house", normally a is wanted slave for sexual reasons. But the nude picture, again at least to me, doesn't seem that wrong. But Bern seems to feel that it's on the same level as cheating when she scolds May for wants to continue it nude.

I'm not completely blind to Bern's feeling and I understand she has been hurt before by people she has loved. But I feel that if you know that someone is more sexually active then you, sleeps around and puts themselves in sexual positions, then you have no right to cry when shit hits the fan. Guess I'm just more annoyed finding out that Bern knew about May's behavior and didn't do anything about it, yet expects May to be this loyal partner. That's not coming out right and I'll edit when/if I find the wording I'm looking for.

Also looking for a reference I realize that most of my rubs, if not all at this point, happened before the "Nagelring" event, where Bern said she is willing to compromise, and May did tell Bern that she would never cheat on her again. For some reason I'm getting my time line mixed. I thought May told her that on the way to Bloody Mary, but she gave Crest the note saying that she would do anything to make Bern happy, with Crest thinking to himself that he'll need to keep an eye on her.

I do agree that there is going to be a breaking point, but it's like you said, who breaks and how.

I might just have an unrealistic view of how this relationship should be. And to be honest, I'm jealous. The idea that May was willing to cut off pieces of herself to save Bern floored me. That's love. Even with their differences May is willing to do anything for Bern, and a part of me hates that. For personal reasons I wont go into.

I don't want to see one lose a Portal, I want May to be there for Bern, or at least have the ability to. I'm more thinking something happens where the portal closes early or as May is coming though something sucks he back in, but then that would just cement Bern's hatred for magic. But that plan is just too good to be true.

Thank you all for this. You guys helped me straighten a few things out. Really, now that everything is out on the table we just need to see how things play out. I really do hope for the best with May and Bern.

With Crest and Suspiria, I think we're either going to find out that she has done this before, jump into a new relationship soon after leaving one, or this is going to be a rebound/shock fling. Who knows, maybe Crest is what Suspiria needs to finally be herself. With Kin she seemed all over the place with the mood swings. I think Crest would be ok if she has jumped into new relationships soon after ending one, but I think a fling would crush him. Could lead to an interesting arc or two if the relationship is real.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 09, 2011, 12:47:20 am »

Guess I should sit down and read Book 0. That might help me out a little with the back story of May and Bern. I should also re-read whats happened so far as it seems I'm missing more then I remember.

I don't know why I don't like Bern so much. I really want to, but I have these strange blinders on when it comes to her. I agree that Bern has done more then I give her credit for.

That or I have no real clue whats going on and just waiting for the next titty shot. Which is a good possibility. Guess I just have a strange view of things.

I think that I'm letting personal feelings and experiences cloud me on the Bern issue.

About to tangent again and it's late. And I don't think well when I'm tired.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 08, 2011, 07:34:20 pm »

True that, xrdn. A whole weekend of shaking, while waiting for my next hit of Flipside... Never did I ever think I'd say.... Can't wait for Monday.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 08, 2011, 05:25:38 pm »

I believe you are right charles. Now that I think about it I do believe Bern said she'd try to loosen up. I'll have to look back and see when she said that before I make myself look like a fool.

True that Bern has sacrificed, but I think putting up with the adultery isn't something to be proud about. If it really bothered Bern that much, Bern should have come forward sooner. Not bottle it up and put on a smiling face. I think it was sad it had to come out under the "Nagelring" and not on their own power. I don't want Bern to be like May. I do like that they are such a yin and yang. Personally, I see that they will learn a lot from each other.

It's still early so I really shouldn't be over stepping right now with my assumptions. I just need to sit still and watch it all unfold.

Regardless tho, when they're not at odds with each other they do make a cute couple. I guess I just really want them to work their differences out enough to where they are comfortable with each other. Guess I tend to side with May, since I share some of the same ideals as her.

Gonna end it here before I go off on a tangent again.

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Pop Culture / Re: What are you currently listening to?

« on: July 08, 2011, 02:02:04 pm »

If we're talking about "omgwtfbbq right now" currently, then it's the Mario Kart Love Song. A group of friends did a cover of it for a karaoke contest and it's been stuck in my head ever since. So I am just clicking the crap out of the replay button. If we talking about current listening in general then I am on a Weezer kick right now. 

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Pop Culture / Re: What are you currently playing? [Video/computer games]

« on: July 08, 2011, 01:56:53 pm »

Finally got around to Boraderlands, replaying Mass Effect 1 and 2 on PC, in preparation for ME3.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 30: Discussion

« on: July 08, 2011, 11:02:09 am »

I'm really scared for Crest with Suspiria. It feels very reboundie. She seems to have latched onto Crest very fast and very hard, you can see the turning point in Chapter 22, Page 18. Yes she did just lose her lover who she seemed very close to, and Crest seems like the person to lend his shoulder to cry on. But it's the fact she seems only interested in Crest comforting her and she is doing all of these nice things for him, paying for Phalanx training and now the sword, sends up a red flag for me.

I also don't know how I feel about Suspiria just yet. To me, too many sides have come out to really get a feel for her, She has been kind of a spoiled brat during Bloody Mary, kinda of angry and spiteful during Nagelring, and now this quite and reserved girl. I would like to think how she is now is really how she is. I think they would make a good couple. But i just have my doubts right now. (I tend to see things half empty, but it's still 6oz of beer in the end).

Keeping on this slightly negative outlook, who else thinks the portal idea will backfire? Not intentionally by Suspiria, but that just seems too good to be true. Either May will end up somewhere else, some how get stuck in limbo between portals or May will not make it back though in time (not really a bad thing, more minor inconvenience. BUT! could cost her the wining if the contest isn't over before hand.)

Sadly my focus is on Crest. I really like him. As much as I would like to see him get some "action", I want it to be for the right reason and right person.

I know it's just me but Bern's "stick" is driving me crazy right now. I'm not saying she needs to be more like May and be cool with sleeping around, but she seems to be constantly at odds with May's personality. I don't understand how you can be that in love with someone but also so at odds with who they are. Bern just seems to be putting up with May. They both have this feeling that they can't see themselves without the other, but Bern seems unwilling to make a compromise where May is willing to basically give up a drug for Bern. I don't know, guess I just have to see how things play out between them.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: The Criticism Thread

« on: July 08, 2011, 10:17:04 am »

I understand why they are splitting, and it really is logical, I'm not gonna argue that, but I don't know why I can't fully seem to accept that. It's not you. It's me, honestly. Guess I'm more use to the over the top "plot splits" like kidnapping, party member leaving because they don't feel respected or no longer agrees with main groups ideas, etc. But May and Bern make a ton of sense, since they both love each other that much to give up/delay what they want to make the other happy. And with the "thinking with portals" idea Suspiria, it lets them have the cake and eat it too.

To be honest I don't know why May's comment during Glyph's show took me by surprise so much. Guess because it was just *BAM*.

As long as you don't kill Crest off, he's a badass in my mind. I would like to see him get better at the sword, at least enough to fend off a skeleton guard or two. He already has the guts, and when he puts his mind to it the smarts. Maybe when he finally gets a girl and something happens to her, he'll have a "kick ass and take names" moment. But I really like how he is.

So hard to keep this criticism and not go on discussion rants. I'm so sorry. *covers head for incoming brick barrage*

Anyways, keep up the good work.

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Flipside Discussion / Re: The Criticism Thread

« on: July 07, 2011, 02:25:07 pm »

Met you on Day 4 at AX this year. Love Flipside. Thank you.

The only thing I have felt "meh" about was the splitting up of May and Bern. The "I want to win my own Sound Stone" felt like a weak excuse to split them up. To be honest I can't think of anything better right now. But what you have setup is going to be interesting and I can't wait to see what happens.

I love how the story is adult without being pornographic. I feel that all the nude scenes are proper, tho some of May's comments can be a tad from left field, like Chap 27, Page 29. That was so random. I understand the point of it, but random. Not complaining tho.

I am in love with Crest. I see so much of myself in him. I don't want him to become a badass, but some minor growth I feel would be good. Just my luck my favorite character is the "main secondary" character. To me, he very much seems to be the "shoulder to cry on" person of the group. He is there when he is needed however he is needed (might be stretching it there). I don't want to get to crazy to say that he will do anything to make his friends happy, but I think if it's within his power, he would do so. Like in Chap 24, Page 24 where he shields May so Bern doesn't have to worry. That's where Crest is the strongest in my opinion.

I feel that the flow and pacing of the story is good. There has not been a section that I felt had dragged on, tho some times the Intermissions are annoying. They are fun, but some times there is so much intermission I tend to skip them to continue with the story. I like the release schedule. 3 a week is enough to keep me wanting more, without having major withdraws. It if were once a week I'd have to hunt you down.

I know much of what I said, has been said, and I am sorry for repeating. I really only have minor "issues", like the sick up Berns ass, but that is how the character is. If everyone was like May, then the story would kinda suck. Can't fault someone for breathing.

Awesome job Brion. Again, thank you.