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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 52: Discussion
« on: January 10, 2019, 10:35:01 pm »
Do not believe him Crest... her power still lives.. YOU all being alive proves that!  Plus it serves HIS ends better that someone with her power no longer be around... that an his master's.  Believe in her and yourself... use the sword 'Heal' Her!
Indeed. Probably should try kissing too, since that occasionally cures such conditions.

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 51: Discussion
« on: November 11, 2018, 02:37:28 am »
Let me see your war face, Crest! AHH!

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
« on: May 10, 2017, 10:21:32 am »
Lying to a truth specialist, Maytag? When Corona already knows good and well that the room wasn't empty? Hopefully this is part of a strategy, and not an actual attempt to fool him.

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 44: Discussion
« on: December 23, 2015, 06:56:59 am »
omg this dog just solved Dark Cell
All you gotta do is walk backward :P

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 44: Discussion
« on: November 19, 2015, 04:20:06 am »
I'm trying to imagine how the logistics of that would work.  First of all, how would you get the 50 foot battering ram inside the door?  Let's assume that the walls are not breakable.  In that case, you couldn't possibly manuever such a huge battering ram into that corridor.  And that's not even getting into how people would be able to hold up the weight while walking through the first 2 phases.

On the other hand if the walls *were* breakable, this is possible.  But in that case, there are actually easier ways to cheat.
If I were Lehm, I'd be too afraid to try breaking the walls because it might damage the whole thing to where the secret becomes permanently inaccessible. Or maybe the qualia would just teleport it somewhere else and he'd have to go searching the world for it. The current situation is pretty good, having it accessible all the time for thorough study, with nobody bothering them.

As for the battering ram idea, why not just tie the person to a cart and roll them through phase 3? That should fit through the door, or at worst could be assembled inside. I suppose it would be risky since you could end up trapped in there, so don't tie them so tight that they can't wriggle free in time, and put a timed release mechanism for added safety. But there could also be issues with the floor not being good to roll on the whole way. Large diameter wheels and rocket propulsion might help :P But there could also be bottomless pits to avoid, or walls to climb, or corners to turn...

For the conga line, I'd think the biggest issue would be preventing everyone from running sideways. I suppose it depends on the geometry of the whole thing. Is it a narrow corridor, or an infinitely wide open space, or just a fairly large room that could be filled given a large enough number of people who can pass phase 2? Regardless, it seems impractical to find enough people.

And on the lucid dream approach, it can't be replacing your reality entirely because it's basing the constructed reality upon your memories of loved ones. So there's still more study to be done, analyzing its algorithm for how it chooses which memories to use. Perhaps it would be possible to plant "trick memories" that it will attempt to use against you but will actually cause you to walk forward. Though it's probably smart enough to see that and try something else if you don't go the way it wants you to.

Oh, and how about having Corona and Maytag tie Melter up and haul him through phase 1 and 2, and then release him to attempt phase 3 without emotions?

And have they tested the effects of a blindfold and earplugs on the illusions?

Certainly is a fun challenge to ponder on :) I can't wait to see what the real solution turns out to be... if there is one.

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 44: Discussion
« on: September 28, 2015, 01:36:45 pm »
Hmm, I hope we actually get to see what phase 3 is like. Sure, despair is awful, but how does dark cell get you to feel it when you know it's all fake? Unless, like my theory before, it causes memory loss. Though in this case it would have to be selective, so you don't remember how you got there or that it's not real, but do still remember the people that it's showing you.

But even then it's not impossible. It's just a matter of figuring out a way to remind yourself what's going on. Like writing a message on your hand, or training yourself to do some sort of check anytime things seem weird, like the checks you can do to figure out if you're dreaming or awake.

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 44: Discussion
« on: September 18, 2015, 02:46:12 pm »
Hmm, Corona's description actually does make sense for the first one to conquer phase 2. There's no way to know for sure whether the injuries are purely illusory, or if they're real but get magically reversed if you run away. It could be that the fear of the first phase was legitimate, because if you go in there, you'll get sliced to pieces until you die.

Maytag, on the other hand, knows that Corona has reached the end of phase 2 and lived to tell the tale. So it's pretty obvious that it's all an illusion, and therefore only a test of pain tolerance, which is no problem for her.

I can't wait to hear what phase 3 is. The first two, all you have to do is keep walking and nothing bad really happens. Corona attempts phase 3 every day, so it must not be anything that causes actual damage. Maybe it causes extreme tiredness? But I'm thinking it will be less straightforward than the first two. Maybe it causes memory loss, so you forget why it is that you're in there to begin with, and run away from all the bad stuff. Or it could just be a maze. That would explain Corona going in every day, gradually charting it.

Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 43: Discussion
« on: March 24, 2015, 08:40:11 pm »
Shifting mass without changing the makeup or distribution of matter in the weapon seems a bit too convenient to me. Have you considered that perhaps the warden's use of terms is loose/doesn't match non-fictional modern scientists' use of terms? Anyway, another method would be to simply have the nanobots that are the source of "magic" in Flipside's world be compensating for all the missing force wherever it is needed to create the effect. So if he's lifting the (non I-) beam up it lifts with him to "reduce weight" from the wielder's perspective. This can be applied to any movement based on mass and/or gravity/inertia. For the target struck the nanobots don't have to reduce anything, and just let the beam hit normally.
Yep, that was my theory as well. Nobody knows the nanobots are there, so they just describe the apparent effect of the spell, rather than its root cause... sort of like gravity in real life :P

Hopefully Bernadette will get her act together and actually start fighting rather than needing rescued. Chop that hand off and fling it at True Strike :D

Flipside Discussion / Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
« on: February 22, 2015, 02:26:00 am »
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Terrible place for a break in the action. The chapter should have ended back when Bernadette was crying in her cell. That way, when returning to this storyline, there'd be a little buildup to get us back emotionally invested in it. As it is, we'd get back, there'd be fighting, and we'd have to go review this last section to remember why we should care. Really, even having an intermission/chapter break here is bad for the flow. After all that dramatic buildup, it would have been so satisfying to get right on with it.

That said, I do still want to see more Dark Cell. We're just too deep into this fight day to back out. Unless maybe if you want to rearrange the page order for posterity's sake, relocating these past several pages to the start of the next Bernadette chapter. That might actually be the best solution in the long run, preserving the usual cycle between characters, and eliminating this bad chapter end point.

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