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Title: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on May 23, 2012, 11:21:20 am
This is the thread for discussing chapter 33.  What will happen to our heroines?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on May 24, 2012, 03:36:40 am
Why yes, relaxing it has to be.
Cue the thunderous underwater farts!
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 24, 2012, 04:50:40 am
Looking at Regina face someone gonna get eaten tonight ::)
Or rather would want to :P
I can't wait to see how Melter will plan this out to make kidnapping May possible.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: parameciumkid on May 24, 2012, 09:18:21 am
K I meant to post this two days ago but the forum looked like it had morning sickness. Anyway...
MELTER IS PRIDE! http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Pride
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on May 24, 2012, 11:00:09 am
I honestly haven't gotten that far in the new FMA.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Lord Stone on May 24, 2012, 02:57:26 pm
FMA: Brotherhood, or the FMA manga (same story) are very good... I can really recommend them :D

I'm curious what will happen to Suspiria, but we're first back with May for now... and it looks like Regina is about to start asking some questions, that's what I think.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on May 25, 2012, 06:58:52 am
Now we see why he gave up. He's dying, and is using alcohol to drown the pain because he can't afford stronger stuff.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 25, 2012, 07:30:30 am
Or he is dying cause he literally drunk himself to death with all regrets he had, death from having your liver failure is not a pleasant one...
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Flipthecannon on May 28, 2012, 06:35:09 am
  Seems like it may be working similar to that pool trap they fell into when they first ran into Melter.  My bet is Melter's going to use the pool to get Regina to become aggressive in her desire for Maytag and while Maytag is trying to get her under control, he knocks her out somehow.  Regina remembers nothing and he escapes through a portal before anyone else sees them.  At least taht would be if it went according to plan...which it probably wont.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on May 28, 2012, 06:58:37 am
Oh, Bern. Prepare to get frustrated. Extremely frustrated. Frustrated to the point of wanting to commit murder, frustrated. Guys who hit rock-bottom like this don't WANT to get cleaned up. They will passive-aggressively fight you to the bitter end, and it will be bitter.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Flipthecannon on May 30, 2012, 06:17:52 am
Ok...maybe I was wrong about the bath water being enchanted.  her look at the end of that one page just seemed so distant...

As far as bern and her dad...good luck.  I'm kind of pessimistic about those situations but it's a comic so if the author wants him to make a recovery (at least long enough to redeem himself) he will....if the author doesn't we'll probably have a sad moment.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 01, 2012, 02:47:52 am
Oh boy...
That is some serious fanservice temptation going...

So Bern takes care of sick father while May gets such a show...
Life is unfair.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on June 01, 2012, 05:36:20 am
Nice thought, Regina. But you're going to have to figure out what May is REALLY like. As she's just told us not long ago, the personality she's been projecting is a "shell," further, you're going to have to filter out your idealized memories of her.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: UmberIsSexy on June 01, 2012, 08:48:16 am
Hey everyone!

Just thought I'd drop in and say I'm likin' the new Regina!!!
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 04, 2012, 05:41:33 am
Hmmm, this does seem like a possibly good time for Melter to strike.  She's alone with a level 1 sorceress, so no great threat.  Heck, the Thin-Man may even like another experimental subject in Regina, so take them both?

I don't think the water is enchanted, but I do wonder where this is possibly going with Regina and Maytag.  Maybe a reveal of how she broke up with her boyfriend or something before a capture at the end to leave us on a cliff-hanger.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Flipthecannon on June 04, 2012, 07:43:13 am
  Good advice May but how well do yoou know yourself?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 06, 2012, 10:36:12 am
Well... One could argue that you're constantly changing and thus always learning new things about yourself.  Maytag doesn't necessarily know herself completely but I'd argue that she knows herself better than Regina knows herself, and possibly most others.

I guess one of the primary things is that May has a very good idea of what she wants in life, i.e. to establish as many positive connections with as many people as possible.

Look at Bern and while she doesn't have a complete idea she still fairly well knows what her values and desires are in life.  Never-the-less, like Maytag, she's willing to push herself to change.

Regina is unlikely to become like Maytag fully, but in idolising her and trying to follow her she'll develop herself and likely learn what things about Maytag that she really wants for herself.  Self confidence seems to be a big thing and was certainly a short-coming in her disolving test.  I guess the stage performance is a good cure but I'm not sure what to think about appearing naked in front of others but I'd say knowing she can do it now was more of a rush to her than the act.  If I had to take a random guess at what makes Regina happy I'd say it's overcoming her fears or making some sort of achievement and forming close relationships with a few, select people.

I wonder if Melter even knows she's a Level 1 sorcerer.  While I doubt she would normally pose any threat to him she might catch him off-guard if he's unaware.  Really I think both our girls here are about to get into some serious trouble.  My real hope is that Shepherd is keeping as close an eye on her as Melter and will make his own move although who knows what his motives are.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on June 08, 2012, 05:28:37 am
Ok, I just got to say, I hope I'm not the only one who finds "Robot May" creepy.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 08, 2012, 09:50:15 pm
Ok, I just got to say, I hope I'm not the only one who finds "Robot May" creepy.
Heavens no.  But I think thats part of the point.  People find this personality of hers too cold and detached.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on June 09, 2012, 09:37:44 am
No...
Just no.

May shouldn't be like "!!!" when hearing regina say she totally envies her ability to shut off emotion.
This is an expected reaction of someone who has no idea what it's actually like.

May has been characterized as some sort of super smart, able to read people like open books.
She should expect this. She should be smart enough to see that, to an outsider, this seems like an amazing "ability".

"Robot may" should be much, much harder to surprise than this.
Or maybe nothing can surprise her like that.
In some ways, that's the whole point, isn't it.

We have firmly established that nothing but herself can really snap her out of that state after all.
It's her "superpower".
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 11, 2012, 08:06:59 am
I guess Regina became spontaneously impressed.  More difficult to detect since even the person doesn't know they're really going to burst out like that.  Regina was always impressed by Maytag's wild behaviour and bravery but this is showing it to be more like a shut-off valve to all emotion.  Everyone Maytag has known has been scared or turned-off by it which is why she invented her emotional sides.

This could also be Maytag auto-switching back to her emotional self and creating the reaction of surprise to Regina's outburst.

I've often wondered if Maytag's ability is actually a sort of curse like Moss' but without a really visible element (unless red eyes is the give-away).
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Flipthecannon on June 11, 2012, 09:42:56 pm
interesting but please tell me I'm not the only one who saw something creepy in Regina's expression.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 12, 2012, 03:51:15 am
Yeah, not sure if it was meant to but it did have a touch of the creepy for some reason.  I guess it's a bit of a dreamy, happy look.  Regina bashes on herself so much along with a number of others over time and here's Maytag who just pours on the complements and encouragement she's likely been starved of for a long time.

I don't think she's entertaining romantic feelings towards Maytag.  She almost certainly knows she's a lesbian and in a committed relationship with Bern so I don't think she'd want to jeopardize that for Maytag, but I do think she's loves Maytag like a wonderful big sister... and then Melter strikes *lol*
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 12, 2012, 04:49:17 am
Hmm, I don't think that Regina's infatuation with May, which is clearly visible, is that of sisterly nature ::)

Does Regina even know that May is in commited relationship with Bern?
I'll admit I don't remember if that was brought to her attention during book 0 adventure or when they reunited recently where May was alone on stage without Bern around...
I wonder how much she really knows.

Seeing that last panel face, maybe she'll try to make a move on May?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 12, 2012, 08:09:41 am
She noted to Suspira/Inverness in front of Regina that she was in a committed relationship.  I sort of presumed that they've had lots of talks over time and she's discussed this with her.  I guess I'm just not really convinced that Regina is necessarily gay or even bisexual.  I could be wrong and there's certainly been heaps of speculation about Regina and Maytag for ages, but I don't personally think it'll go anywhere.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on June 18, 2012, 05:11:25 am
Maytag's instincts telling her not to reveal something really personal to Regina... THOSE BEAR LISTENING TO!
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 18, 2012, 11:04:42 am
Hmm agree.  I suspect this is the part where she tells her how much Regina turns her on and/or about that stolen kiss... or playing with her breasts during the possession.

Only other option is she goes to wisper it then grabs the hiding bloke as he comes closer to listen in.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on June 18, 2012, 01:16:40 pm
Yeah, I hope that Regina and May don't become sexually intimate.  It might be hot, but it wouldn't be right.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 19, 2012, 12:53:49 am
DAMN YOU BRION FOR DRAWING THIS OUT! *lol*

Now I'm wondering if we're going to hear about the stolen kiss or... much more.

Here's the page for those who don't know it: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg31.html

I wonder if something more did happen before Maytag could drop her off.  I'm pretty sure its just the kiss... unless Maytag got together with Lucient *HORROR*

Here's the page where Regina avoids a kiss with Maytag: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg25.html
And here's the page whre Maytag feels herself/Regina up: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs12pg13.html
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 19, 2012, 01:21:11 am
I'm a bit disappointed in May here, I thought she would say in a bit cliche way that honest love towards Bernadette without all these lies and cheating is the best feeling she felt/had from some time...

But if now May addiction she digs is telling truth towards everyone and be honest with her feelings...

First she was emotionless kid.
She discovered friendship, and how good the positive connection with another human felt.
So she mimicked that through becoming jester and making more people happy, so through that got more friends.
Then May discovered wonders of sex and sexual freedom and that became her pony - nature, joining with so many people on this more or less primal level in pure fun with only positive feelings in mind had to be the biggest kick.
Then May fallen in love with that guy who left her and then with Bern and her free love towards all interesting people habits became cheating and something she maybe stated to enjoy less and less till Crest shout her that in the face.
And then May discovered wonders of being honest through the spell which turned into what we see in current pages...

If indeed May would do it with Lucient at some point then for sure I would like her even less, if that was the hidden truth here.
That would be the blow, maybe it was Lucient who became less interested in Regina cause he fallen for May?

I'm betting that May simply will tell Regina she feels attracted to her, and maybe even loves her.

Now the question here is how Regina will respond, maybe that she knew all the time and it was the reason she left Lucient having May in her mind wanting to confirm things?
We saw Bern had her temptation phase with Polly where her first true love was indeed mutual.
Question is what May will do if her love/attraction/crush towards Regina would be at similiar level for both parties.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 19, 2012, 01:36:37 am
Well... I guess May has always been on a journey of self discovery, finding out what makes her happy in life.

For years she simply didn't know until she developed her first childhood friend and came to the realisation that she enjoyed forming positive relationships with people.  Then she discovered the joy of deeper, stronger relationships with committment such as that with Xenfer and her current one with Bern.  But for those, and to people in general, she'd been lying to a good extent and while those relationships made her feel good, she felt bad for the guilt at lying and decieving.  Now she's discovered a rush for honesty where the pressure and guilt of holding together the lies is lifted off her for what is usually a temporary jolt of pain that resolves into a deeper connection with those she reveals them to.

Really, Maytag is all about making herself happy and just as she said to Regina, she's still discovering the many things in life that make her happy.

EDIT:
WAIT!!! All she said was that she would reveal something very personal.  She does say on the next page that its something she thinks Regina deserves to know, but maybe we're off track on thinking it has to be something that relates so directly to Regina.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on June 20, 2012, 05:30:11 am
"I was really born as a man, but as a result of failed sorcery experiment(s), I became a woman, AND I LOVE IT!"
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 21, 2012, 12:20:32 am
So it's about wanting to eat Regina out after all :P
So May indeed still loves her judging from all this blushing and secrecy rather strongly, Bern doesn't know about it, also that last panel look...
We need them to get reunited, I kinda want Polly to meet May and see how that would play out.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on June 22, 2012, 04:54:17 am
Hmm.  Well May's enjoying her honesty.  But, we see her back away.  SHE might be able to resist for Bern's sake.  But could it have been a mistake telling Regina?  Can the new, somewhat bolder Regina resist? 
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 23, 2012, 01:40:43 am
I'm pleased at how May has expressed her feelings here.  She hasn't gone right into the sexual side strongly but much more the emotional.

I don't quite know how Regina will take this.  I don't think she'll be angry but maybe a little confused about how she should respond or feel.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 25, 2012, 12:54:43 am
Regina's reaction is kinda cute, especially that 4th panel how she touches her lips...
She wants it bad, or I'm reading it wrong ^^

But May doesn't consider herself as bisexual?
Or at least she doesn't limit herself as one, so she is pansexual then?
Or maybe it's the other way around and she's asexual who takes her partners sexuality into consideration and mimicks them for that pleasure factor?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on June 25, 2012, 08:59:44 am
Not bisexual? .... Is she Omni-sexual like Capt. Jack from "Dr. Who" and "Torchwood?"
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: ducky_worshiper on June 25, 2012, 11:02:13 am
Honestly this whole "reveal" seems (and is by her own admission) incredibly selfish.  I mean, realistically what are Regina's options here with this information?

-She could be totally in love with Maytag and believe this is Maytag reciprocating (which Maytag is then not able to do because of her recent vow of monogamy with Bern)

-She could not feel the same way and be flattered but ultimately uninterested (this is probably ideal, assuming this route leads to her not feeling awkward).

-She could not feel the same way and then become awkward around Maytag, second-guessing any and all of Maytag's kindness (which is a sad but true thing that happens, someone admits feelings and suddenly everything they have ever done, and will ever do, is seen in a different light).

I'm sure there are more but most possible outcomes that I can think of are either negative or neutral as far as Regina goes, with the only person standing to gain anything being Maytag.  I know it's a personality thing but I've never been comfortable advocating for sharing information without having a purpose other than "it makes *me* feel better."
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on June 25, 2012, 12:29:00 pm
Maytag's eyes look strange when she gazes at Regina.  Perhaps the water is enchanted?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on June 25, 2012, 09:45:53 pm
Maytag's eyes look strange when she gazes at Regina.  Perhaps the water is enchanted?

A bit huh... it's difficult to say.

In the latest panels her eyes are very clear though. I don't think she's under any enchantment.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 26, 2012, 05:19:56 am
So indeed it's pansexuality, basically May wants to sleep with anyone she is friends with and/or finds interesting as best way to maintain the positive feelings between them...

Really Bern I feel so sorry for you, I really doubt that keeping such free bird in monogamous cage bound by love will ever work...

I wonder when our two love birds will realise fully that the relationship between them will never work exactly due to May and also Bern nature, I kinda doubt that May will be ever comfortable in longer time with such restriction to be bound to one partner, or I really doubt that Bern would stand any longer way being with May if she would give her green light to do it with other people.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: ducky_worshiper on June 26, 2012, 08:12:28 am
I've been thinking about this since last night, and it really strikes me as a pretty emotionally shallow outlook from May; it also raises some questions I have that I would love to know her stance on.

For starters, in her mind, what makes her relationship with Bern different than her (desired) relationship with everyone else?  Like, if in her ideal world she shares all types of intimacy with everyone who she cares about, then what is the point of even having a "set apart" relationship with Bern? Is it just that she loves Bern "more" than she loves other people? 

I guess what confuses me is that she's admitted that she basically wants to be with Bern but have the freedom to connect physically with others (an open relationship like what Umber has), but if what she's saying in this page is really true, then what's the point of the "relationship" part with Bern?  What makes it Bern different than being just another person that Maytag loves and wants to experience both physical and emotional intimacy with?

Also, what about people to whom she isn't physically attracted?  Does that mean she feels she can never have a truly deep relationship with them?  Obviously it's a comic, particularly one drawn in a certain style, so I doubt we'll have much interaction with people who aren't physically attractive (outside of the priestess Varja or Vajra or whatever in Bloody Mary's town), but what about people who aren't conventionally attractive?  Does she really find every single conceivable body type and physical appearance to be something she would want to experience physical intimacy?  Does this mean she believes you can never truly be close to family members (as I assume [perhaps wrongly] that she does not feel the desire to experience physical intimacy with her family members, although to be fair she lost her mother when she was young and had no other family that she's ever spoken of, so maybe she does think you can't ever really be close to your family)?

TL;DR version - I'm really not trying to nitpick or anything, I'm just genuinely curious how Maytag defines relationships.  The idea that all relationships are, or should be, all or nothing seems really emotionally shallow and inflexible to me.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Yeti on June 26, 2012, 01:00:10 pm
I'll try and handle some of these questions for you. I'll also handle them out of order, because I laugh in the face of coherency. First then, Maytag's reveal here (and as mentioned a few posts up) is that she's a pansexual (though it seems very out of character for her not to know the word for it somehow). This means that she's attracted to personality, or as she puts it, people she likes. Ergo physical attraction no longer matters, if she likes it then she wants to get intimate with it. Potentially societal norms have prevented her from being able to feel attraction for family members, but to be honest given Maytag's character I wouldn't be too surprised if she'd tap them.

Umber has a little more than an open relationship, Umber has a polyamorous relationship. The difference being that whilst open relationships allow for physical contact with others, polyamorous relationships allow you to start up relationships with other people as well as the physical contact. This would be Maytag's dream, to be able to have relationships with as many people as she likes in absolutely any capacity she likes. Bern however wants her to only experience both physical and (more seriously) emotional relationships with her alone.

To Maytag, Bern is the most important person in the world - desire to be intimate with everyone she likes doesn't result in liking people equally. Bern is hurt by the idea of Maytag having a polyamorous relationship due to her own personal philosophies and Maytag feels she owes it to Bern to not hurt her. So the relationship is 'set aside' for Bern's sake, despite it being far from Maytag's ideal. If Bern was able to give Maytag her poly relationship, then given the right people came along then Maytag could develop emotional bonds comparable perhaps to those she has with Bern.

One imagines this as an idea is something that might scare Bern as a concept. What Bern is (hypothetically) missing however is that every bond Maytag makes is going to be different. Bern, and the bond Maytag has with her, is unique. As is every single other bond Maytag has. Consequently Bern couldn't just be replaced.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: zblues on June 26, 2012, 03:07:08 pm
Needs more Crest...
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on June 26, 2012, 06:10:14 pm
I was planning to have some Crest scenes in this chapter, but I realized I can't, because chronologically his scenes can't happen while this bath is happening.  (Bern's next scenes can't either, hence why there's very little of her.)  So I decided to get this whole Maytag part out of the way first.  Crest has some really important scenes coming up soon, so he'll start getting a lot more page time.  I'm planning on having that start next chapter, though we'll have to see how that will fit with Bern's events happening soon.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on June 27, 2012, 03:03:14 am
Regina looks super comfortable.
I'm sure she's glad to know this!
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: charles on June 27, 2012, 05:24:09 am
I'm a fence sitter on the Bern VS Maytag relationship stance.  Really I can understand the ideas behind both their philosophies and see the merits in both.  I probably come across as being in the "Bern Camp" more but I think thats just 'cos it tends to be her who's seen as the bad guy in this the most.

Bern is of the philosophy that two people in a committed relationship share a bond that is unique to them.  It can generally make people feel good and important in life to have someone who loves you to a level that they love no-one else.  It makes you feel special to that person and seeing them feel that way about other people can make the bond seem less significant or even insignificant.  Effectively you see yourself as just one of many deep loves in that person's life rather than the one.

Maytag on the other hand enjoys deep and intimate connections with many people, enjoying the mass of it rather than the uniqueness.  Likewise she does feel for these others and if they're being intimate with people other than her is only happy for them to be experiencing what she desires to feel with as many people, as often as possible.

The problem is that Maytag's frivolities are hurtful to Bern.  Just as Maytag is making an effort to be committed, Bern could also make the effort to accept and allow Maytag's sexual freedom.  Actually, she did exactly that for quite some time and bore it in quiet silence.  This arrangement is really Maytag making an effort to return the favor and I suspect they'll likely work to further understand each other's points of view and continue to compromise their stances as they gain understanding.

This latest development with Polly is a problem though.  What Bern is really doing wrong here, and whats been wrong with all Maytag's sleeping behind Bern's back, is the dishonesty.  Misleading each other rather than talking through their differences and feelings on subjects.  You could probably argue successfully that if they had been honest with each other in the beginning then they wouldn't be together today.  Maytag would simply say that she doesn't believe in committed relationships, Bern would inform her that such an arrangement is not acceptable to her and they go their separate ways having not had the time to form a deep relationship.  But they did mislead each other and grew too close for either to really risk the destruction of the relationship by not working hard to cover up the differences or pretend they didn't noticable.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Yeti on June 27, 2012, 07:30:43 am
Hold on a minute there charles, I feel you've got a nit running around in that post and I want to pick it. Both polyamory and Maytag are a little more complex than simply desiring a "mass of bonds" which are effectively the same. May appreciates people for their unique traits, for their personalities - I hazard a guess here that this is part of what makes her a very capable poker player. Ideally yes, she'd like a mass of deep bonds, but every single one of those deep bonds she'd appreciate on a unique level; no one would ever be able to replace the bond she has with Bern, and Bern should still have every reason to feel special. 
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on June 27, 2012, 01:20:51 pm
Assuming May is indeed pansexual and desiring of polyamorous relationships, I'm curious to know whether or not she'd be able to comfortably pull them off.  I find it hard to believe that May wouldn't become jealous if any of her partners formed deep emotional and physical relationships with others.  Her desires are ambitious for that reason, as well as for the assumption that she will be able to be aroused enough by all of her friends to enjoy sex with all of them.  It seems more like wishful thinking than a practical solution.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on June 29, 2012, 01:24:09 am
My inner pervert is blushing!
Go Regina, go!
 :-*
So now both Bern and May were kissed by people they are rather fond of, Bern so far didn't falter, now it will be interesting to see what May will do.

Or it was just Regina trying to see how it would feel?
If that rocked her world or was worse than kissing her past boyfriend, so maybe just an experiment.

Assuming May is indeed pansexual and desiring of polyamorous relationships, I'm curious to know whether or not she'd be able to comfortably pull them off.  I find it hard to believe that May wouldn't become jealous if any of her partners formed deep emotional and physical relationships with others.  Her desires are ambitious for that reason, as well as for the assumption that she will be able to be aroused enough by all of her friends to enjoy sex with all of them.  It seems more like wishful thinking than a practical solution.
That is one thing I want to see touched in the comic, we know Bern is jealous of May, and she allowed for cheating to happen so May as younger one would simply crazy out for it to pass with time, but she hated it on personal level.
But is May capable of being jealous over Bern if she became intimate with someone else?
From all we got of May and her philosophy here she shouldn't, she rather should be glad that Bern found another nice person to be with in such relation and connect.
I kinda want to see their relation brake fully, cause personally I don't see a proper exit in it, in Bern place(since I'm a happy monogamist who thinks being loyal is the most important thing), if I would really love Maytag I would simply let her go, knowing fully I limit her happiness, and that she can't be truly happy with me due to her true nature, at the same time knowing I would never allow her to sleep around with other which would dimnish our special connection with time.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on June 29, 2012, 03:02:43 am
Yeah that WAS a bad idea to tell her that now that she restricted herself out of her old lifestyle.
It would be funny if may remains steadfast while bern cracks.

Whatever way it swings will not matter anyway because zombie suspiria will start nibbling on people soon so there's bigger things to worry about.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Lord Stone on July 02, 2012, 06:48:13 am
This might trigger a bit of a guilt trip I guess. Wonder how Maytag's going to respond to this... or how she is going to explain the details of this particular conversation to Bern, because it's starting to look like that might become inevitable as well...
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on July 03, 2012, 06:24:19 am
Are 4 enough for an orgy?
If so I could settle for a lesbian orgy too.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Razzly on July 04, 2012, 03:44:07 am
Egads.
Maytag! Clothes! xD
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Oddball on July 04, 2012, 05:01:39 am
What's the sentence for streaking?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 04, 2012, 05:41:01 am
Ok, Regina's really not taking this well.

No matter how "nicely" you do it, turning down a crush is always painful, but Regina, really, is seriously being unfair about it.

As for Maytag, really, it's nice that she's got no problem being nude in public, but even in this "safe" city, it's quite dangerous to walk about completely naked.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: ducky_worshiper on July 05, 2012, 12:26:08 pm
I don't think Regina is being unfair at all.  If Maytag hadn't decided that she suddenly got some high from telling the "truth" then none of this would have happened.  Did Regina still pine for Maytag? Yes, but she *knew* May was in a relationship and had no reason to believe that anything would ever come of her and Maytag.

Now?  Now she's not only been told that she was technically assaulted while passed out (no matter how much she adores Maytag, May took major inappropriate advantage of Regina when she kissed her), but she's been told "hey I love you too but that's not gonna change anything, right?" 
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on July 06, 2012, 02:24:51 pm
Bad Regina, BAD!

Though I suppose this shows that Maytag may not be as good a judge of people as we (I) thought.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: TheBlackCat on July 06, 2012, 05:35:39 pm
Though I own all the books so far, this is my first post here.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1577 (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1577); Perhaps a better term for what Maytag is trying to describe would be Pan-Sexual? (Gotta love those sexy, sexy pans. They get so dirty when you cook with them)
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: ducky_worshiper on July 06, 2012, 07:40:24 pm
Can one of those who is castigating Regina please explain to me why she is the one in the wrong here?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on July 07, 2012, 09:28:21 am
Regina is not wrong here, May is.
She lead her a bit too much and made a bit too many shocking revelations here.

First she takes Regina in the bath, then she complements her, then reveal the secret that she likes her and is attracted to her sexually, she also took advantage of her and kissed in the past, and she would gladly eat her out cause she would do that to all interesting people/friends loving them at the same time.
With such appraoch she basically pushed Regina expactations unknowingly to the limits, and in the end she shoots her down saying that she have to stay faithful(I kinda find it strange that she didn't say I want instead of I have) to Bern cause she loves her the most and she forces herself for their relationship to work.
And then as a result it is not surprising at all for me to see how Regina acted.

May acted a bit selfish here on that telling the truth high status, not considering even for a moment that Regina may like her too like that.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 09, 2012, 05:24:02 am
Can one of those who is castigating Regina please explain to me why she is the one in the wrong here?

Not so much wrong as drastically and dramatically over-reacting, and frankly throwing a fit.

Maytag, on the other hand, has just rolled a natural 1 on her encounter reaction. This, we saw coming.

As for poor Mr. Invisible, talk about Karma plus interest. Next page is going to involve a Maytag kidnapping, and Mr. Invisible here probably bloody, battered, or dead and in pieces.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: ducky_worshiper on July 09, 2012, 05:47:52 pm
I just find it hard to label as "drastically overreacting" to be told "hey I totally reciprocate your feelings and love you and want to be intimate with you but WHOA WHY DID YOU JUST KISS ME WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU oh by the way I had my way with you when you were passed.  We cool?" and then get upset and leave.

She didn't like, stab Maytag.  She got upset, she cried, she asked to be left alone and she got dressed and left. 
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 10, 2012, 06:54:24 am
Your point would be understandable if Regina was upset when May mentioned that she did things to Regina's body when she was unconscious.

Regina was NOT upset at that.

Regina ONLY got upset AFTER making advances on May and being told "no, I've promised myself to Bern alone."

If you make advances on someone who currently HAS a significant other, and you know about it, it IS drastically over-reacting to storm out in a rage when you're turned down.

Is Maytag blameless? No. You will note that I DID point out, she shouldn't have revealed personal info to Regina like that.

On the other hand, Regina IS an adult, and should know that fixating on someone does NOT automatically grant you romantic or sexual access, even if that person has admitted any kind of attraction to you.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: ducky_worshiper on July 10, 2012, 01:59:39 pm
If you make advances on someone who currently HAS a significant other, and you know about it, it IS drastically over-reacting to storm out in a rage when you're turned down.

Is Maytag blameless? No. You will note that I DID point out, she shouldn't have revealed personal info to Regina like that.

On the other hand, Regina IS an adult, and should know that fixating on someone does NOT automatically grant you romantic or sexual access, even if that person has admitted any kind of attraction to you.

Except she only made advances on someone who had just admitted to loving her, wanting to be intimate with her, and who had already been physically intimate with her in the past (a time when she was ALSO with Bernadette, for the record).  You're right, she clearly was a total fucking idiot for thinking Maytag wanted to be with her in any way.

Also, she may be an adult but Maytag also knows for a FACT that Regina is incredibly inexperienced with love and emotions.  And again, all Regina did was leave and not want to talk to Maytag anymore.  I just can't see that as "drastically overreacting".
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on July 10, 2012, 02:42:55 pm
If you're arguing about which one of them was at fault, then I feel like I did my job well.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Stargoat on July 10, 2012, 07:50:49 pm
Captain Beefheart could save the strange magician, but lo, he withholds his might and merciful hand, allowing Melter to eat the strange magician with his evil evil magic.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Oddball on July 11, 2012, 02:32:00 am
OH the King Lobster is pulling our strings lol
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 11, 2012, 06:04:46 am
Captain Beefheart could save the strange magician, but lo, he withholds his might and merciful hand, allowing Melter to eat the strange magician with his evil evil magic.
Called it!

"I'm normally discouraged from killing innocent people."

Riiight! Kidnapping them, experimenting on and torturing them until they wish they WERE dead is just so much better.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on July 11, 2012, 12:39:44 pm
Regarding the most recent panel ... HOLY SHIT, MELTER  :o !  That is all.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Oddball on July 11, 2012, 02:17:46 pm
Some body is going to have to clean up that mess and it ain't going to be me!  :P lol
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on July 12, 2012, 12:17:05 am
I'm getting excited, if I guess correctly of what Melter is saying, it means he will have to fight with that Shepard guy from Phalanx to get a chance on getting May, cause I think that other guy is too following May while being invisible.

And that rather won't be as easy as getting rid of the current victim.

He got what he deserved for spying on ladies in the bath :P
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 13, 2012, 04:53:23 am
Maytag, sweetie, yes you listen to your heart, but you listen to your head too, and if there's a conflict, your head gets veto power.

....

Edit: Ok, NOW would be a good time for a blood curdling scream!
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 16, 2012, 01:28:54 pm
Uh-oh...Maytag, whatever you do, do NOT touch anything because you're gonna get blamed anyway, so make it as hard as possible for them to accuse you of murder. Who wants to bet her former mentors will try and pin the blame on her for this?  :o
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on July 16, 2012, 05:46:40 pm
Uh-oh...Maytag, whatever you do, do NOT touch anything because you're gonna get blamed anyway, so make it as hard as possible for them to accuse you of murder. Who wants to bet her former mentors will try and pin the blame on her for this?  :o
I'm not sure she has any tools for violently hatefucking people in half in her d-bag so it would be pretty hard to blame on her because how would she have done that?
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on July 17, 2012, 08:35:18 am
She doesn't have her dimensional bag anymore.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 17, 2012, 01:21:04 pm
She doesn't have her dimensional bag anymore.

Translation: Maytag's gonna be blamed for this...?  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on July 18, 2012, 12:08:46 am
Dos it matter?

Seems she will find herself in much more difficult situation she ever was before, and we will get save a May arc going, while from May perspective we will learn about the Thin Man up close.

Maybe May will be the first one who will fully merge/accept with that dark cell?

Or Shepard will show up...
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 18, 2012, 05:25:38 am
Ok, Maytag is officially screwed. It's too late for a good blood curdling scream. Even if she can get one out, Melter will probably kill anyone who comes to the rescue.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on July 18, 2012, 09:44:52 pm
Maytag is officially screwed as in it looks like this will end in surprise butt sex? >.>
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on July 22, 2012, 06:58:25 pm
Messy
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on July 23, 2012, 05:04:37 am
Ok, it's official. Things can NOT be good for May. Since we have a cut away to the other characters, it's obvious May has been "captured" by Melter.
Title: Re: Chapter 33: Discussion
Post by: UmberIsSexy on August 01, 2012, 03:45:08 am
I am not happy about May being captured again.  Bloody Mary was scary enough, and this guy and his boss are about a billion times scarier.

I feel totally uncomfortable about this turn of events.  I'm glad May is tough, but how tough can she really be?  These guys are able and more than willing to put her through some crazy nasty shit.