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Title: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on March 06, 2017, 11:03:02 am
This is the discussion thread for Chapter 48: The Eye of the Storm.  That's right, we get another chapter with this Dark Cell stuff, so you don't have to wait!  Who is this Eye girl?  Is stuff gonna happen?  Tune in to find out!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: weirdguy on March 06, 2017, 12:10:40 pm
ugh, i'm gonna end up sympathizing with yet another weirdo, eh? let's get this over with quickly.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on March 06, 2017, 01:04:43 pm
Maybe I should change the name of Flipside to "Sympathy for the Wierdos"
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 07, 2017, 05:45:35 pm
But what about Crest? We miss... actually, I'm not that interested in him.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Caffinator on March 08, 2017, 09:44:02 pm
So.. Yeah, page 2 really clears things right up then. Totally makes sense now. Yep, clear as daylight... Ok, I'm actually even more confused.

Also, what if the Billy Idol song "Eye's Without a Face" is actually a reference to these two characters? "Eye" and "without a face"
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: CapnBlaze on March 09, 2017, 07:18:10 am
Am i only the one who noticed that eye cleared the cookies but said nothing about the tea?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 09, 2017, 10:05:32 am
Eye is the girl.

"Come to the dark side. We have cookies." Made apparently out of thin air.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: CapnBlaze on March 10, 2017, 08:08:39 am
The cat then. My point still stands.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 10, 2017, 12:15:10 pm
Eye looks like she's gonna choke on her cookies at that last bit.  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on March 12, 2017, 06:57:57 am
... and these two have WHAT to do with the qualia or the source of magic?!?!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: CapnBlaze on March 12, 2017, 09:15:55 am
Maybe the cat is the source of magic?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 13, 2017, 03:36:55 am
Cat is A source of magic. Not THE source of magic. Important dinstinction. Read her name. Cybele Surrogate 3. She is a surrogate for Cybele, one of (at least) three. Cybele, may be THE source of magic. CS3 is just a surrogate.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on March 14, 2017, 05:45:28 am
Hmmm... "normal human desires...", does that include...  :-*
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 15, 2017, 09:11:06 am
Probably.

I'm just finding it extremely interesting the idea of her heading into a shopping center.  :'(

She will literally have to move about constantly, or have people get PTSD from her presence.

:fear, pain, horrible images: "Hi, I'd like a pastry." (walks away) :horrible images, pain, fear:
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on March 20, 2017, 04:43:21 pm
I think cat is about to reveal what a huge masochist Maytag is. Also, what's with the nose?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 20, 2017, 08:23:23 pm
Really?  :o

It's a culture reference. Pinocchio?

(You were joking, right?)

Or he's about to reveal how odd it was that she was able to analyze all of this in such a short amount of time.

Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on March 21, 2017, 07:27:16 am
Really?  :o

It's a culture reference. Pinocchio?

(You were joking, right?)

Or he's about to reveal how odd it was that she was able to analyze all of this in such a short amount of time.
::)
Yeah, just that the pinocchio thing makes 0 sense to me in this context. She's smug, and she really is amazing, so why the nose thing? Plus, its a sudden change of comic style, which is just odd (ie up to now there were never such "facial expressions" in the comic). Whatev, just found it strange, personally.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 21, 2017, 08:24:08 am
I think it's because she was taking credit for something that was ultimately a gamble. It's entirely possible that it still wouldn't have worked, and with the knife in hand, that might've been the end of her.

Maybe the implication here is that May doesn't feel amazing, but is taking credit for it anyway.

She might also ask about some third thing. Memories, senses, ummm was there another one?

Update: Oh right, emotions. This kinda goes into an interesting line of questioning. She basically is a masochist, so yeah she enjoys pain. But here's the odd thing. It's a logical trap.


We have a seen people with magic, and we have seen those altered by Thin Man, and we have seen people with natural special abilities. In the bed & breakfast, she was able to resist a charm effect, even while being immersed in a liquid. That is, she has physiological as well as psychological resistance to certain magical effects. I wonder if there is something more to this, though?
 

Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on March 23, 2017, 09:13:35 am
Yeah, just that the pinocchio thing makes 0 sense to me in this context. She's smug, and she really is amazing, so why the nose thing? Plus, its a sudden change of comic style, which is just odd (ie up to now there were never such "facial expressions" in the comic). Whatev, just found it strange, personally.

Yeah it was meant to show her being smug.  Not sure where I came up with this idea, it just felt right at the time.

(Actually I think I got it from Ibuki from Danganronpa 2.)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on March 24, 2017, 07:02:27 pm
I can only imagine Corona being here in May's place like: "I spent 7 years of my life... for this?!" prior to having a nervous breakdown. Why isn't May asking where they keep the Qualias?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on March 25, 2017, 05:20:00 am
But what about Crest? We miss... actually, I'm not that interested in him.

Mwaaa... I like Crest he's like the 'straight-guy' in the who bag of loveable weidos! :)

But man... Maytag is a strange woman.. but damn, I'd bet she'd be a real handful in the sack! :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: weirdguy on March 25, 2017, 10:12:25 pm
Yeah, I think the pointy nose thing is a Japanese media trope, but I can't quite remember where it came from...

But y'know, brainwashing yourself for fun and profit, good times.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on March 28, 2017, 06:21:10 am
I know she was pranking us, but on some level, I get the impression this is true. That there is something about her that is outside of limits.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: MaronaPossessed on March 29, 2017, 03:25:59 pm
I'm sorry but when I saw that perfect placement of the keenspot ad on this page XD
(https://s23.postimg.org/o45076zh3/accurate.png) (https://postimg.org/image/o45076zh3/)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on March 29, 2017, 08:43:46 pm
I thought the little girl WAS dangerous...
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: UmberIsSexy on April 01, 2017, 07:07:30 pm
Go Maytag!  I love this character.  This page reminded me of when her arm got eaten off!!!

haha "Who cares about risks?"
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on April 03, 2017, 05:35:29 pm
Uh oh. Time to kill the kitten.  :'(
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on April 09, 2017, 01:59:03 am
I'm assuming that since the Eye is moving, so is the chaos. We just haven't seen it yet...
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on April 10, 2017, 05:53:04 am
OH Shit....!!!!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on April 10, 2017, 11:47:19 am
If she's walking towards her, will it just kinda nudge her back or will she be able to pass through?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on April 10, 2017, 02:27:21 pm
Cool and freaky concept. I would guess that it would push people away, like it did whenever they "failed" the tests. Not sure though, since the thing is moving.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on April 11, 2017, 01:49:02 am
Heh...called it...
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: weirdguy on April 11, 2017, 05:06:39 pm
Well, this is awkward.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on April 13, 2017, 01:03:19 pm
EYE Cat - {She knows too much...! Must kill blonde jester suited girl soon!}
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: weirdguy on April 16, 2017, 12:08:23 pm
for a guy with nothing in his head, he sure has a terrible poker face
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on April 16, 2017, 05:00:10 pm
Quote
for a guy with nothing in his head, he sure has a terrible poker face

[terriblepunwarning]Yeah, it's like she can see right through him.[/terriblepunwarning]

(You can start groaning now)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on April 18, 2017, 05:10:43 am
What's a caret aker?  (Should have put this under the Mistake Thread)  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on April 22, 2017, 06:01:07 pm
"You go on ahead Eye. I'll stay behind and have a little 'talk' with Miss Kitty."  ;D

I think she figured out what's up.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Stargoat on April 24, 2017, 04:41:38 pm
Well this looks like a spot of trouble.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: phillip1882 on April 24, 2017, 04:55:13 pm
why are they running from her? Maytag trusted her for a while, its not clearly explained why she doesn't any more
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on April 25, 2017, 05:36:37 am
why are they running from her? Maytag trusted her for a while, its not clearly explained why she doesn't any more

Yeah, I'm wondering myself... and Maytag is helping these two for what reason?  Sure I understand, helping Eye get some freedom from the 'Eyeless-Cat'... but why is she trying to avoid Lehm's folks?  She's got a large reward awaiting her... and the only one she needs worry about is "crazy eyes" girl.  Though... with Eye with her.. escape from Lehm and his folks is practically Guaranteed... but I think the Sorceress woke up and just cast a spell!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on April 26, 2017, 03:32:22 am
why are they running from her? Maytag trusted her for a while, its not clearly explained why she doesn't any more

It's vaguely pointed out by Miss Kitty (CS3) that when she wakes up she will not be able to defend them. That is, when people are totally swallowed by despair, they have a tendency to become violent.

I think I saw a graph at one point that may have had something to do with Maslow's needs, but it talked instead about fear and despair caused if these needs are systematically stripped away. When a person hasn't love/belonging, they begin to feel distant and afraid. When they haven't safety, they start to be paranoid and become prone to pain, when even they basic physiological needs are stripped, they go into despair, and out from it they sometimes become violent.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on April 27, 2017, 06:39:19 am
Okaaay... WTF? Shades of Qtalda?  Who was that that just cast a spell reveling their presence if not identity... ok obviously a bad question we DON'T know who that was.  Who do you think that spellcaster was?  Qtalda or 'Crazy-Eyes'?  Clearly they were invisible and have been following Maytag's progress... though I'm unsure if they were just waiting outside to watch or if they actually have been following Maytag the whole time?

Or worse perhaps they were inside there with CS3 and Eye the whole time?!?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on April 27, 2017, 01:31:53 pm
Patreon news!  My first goal is gonna be to do a short adult Flipside comic at $120.  It will be available for all $3 or higher Patreons!

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4949215
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on April 28, 2017, 05:39:30 am
Okaaay... WTF? Shades of Qtalda?  Who was that that just cast a spell reveling their presence if not identity... ok obviously a bad question we DON'T know who that was.  Who do you think that spellcaster was?  Qtalda or 'Crazy-Eyes'?  Clearly they were invisible and have been following Maytag's progress... though I'm unsure if they were just waiting outside to watch or if they actually have been following Maytag the whole time?

Or worse perhaps they were inside there with CS3 and Eye the whole time?!?

Uhhh? We saw her use Abstraction before, just not from that angle. It's a spell that grabs things. Nothing more.

She was trying to pull them closer to her. Which could have resulted in a split. May needs to find some way of calming people down, or she won't be able to talk to Thin Man or Bern or anyone again.

I'd gladly pay $120 for something. But not $3 monthly. Recurring payments have a way of creeping up on you.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on May 01, 2017, 04:17:38 am
Why do I sense a "but" from Maytag....?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on May 01, 2017, 02:37:54 pm
I am just wondering about the cat's judgement. It wouldn't be too difficult to convince a kid who's never seen the outside world that it's an evil, dangerous place, would it?
Also assuming the cat is the same as that being that appeared in phase 3, it is clear that it has an active role in keeping up the "storm". I doubt it was for its own amusement.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 02, 2017, 01:29:47 am
Okaaay... WTF? Shades of Qtalda?  Who was that that just cast a spell reveling their presence if not identity... ok obviously a bad question we DON'T know who that was.  Who do you think that spellcaster was?  Qtalda or 'Crazy-Eyes'?  Clearly they were invisible and have been following Maytag's progress... though I'm unsure if they were just waiting outside to watch or if they actually have been following Maytag the whole time?

Or worse perhaps they were inside there with CS3 and Eye the whole time?!?

Uhhh? We saw her use Abstraction before, just not from that angle. It's a spell that grabs things. Nothing more.

She was trying to pull them closer to her. Which could have resulted in a split. May needs to find some way of calming people down, or she won't be able to talk to Thin Man or Bern or anyone again.

I'd gladly pay $120 for something. But not $3 monthly. Recurring payments have a way of creeping up on you.

Oh... ok.. I understand now! Thanks... had me confused.

As for Patreon... I'm already donating $4/month...

$2 to https://www.patreon.com/AriochIV/posts [ Outsider ] ... love this comic.. just wish Arioch would be a bit more regular in his comic pages... but I've been a fan for literally decades so I'm committed.  But since its per page, I'm not spending much.

$1 to https://www.patreon.com/starpower/posts [ Star Power ] ...cause all the "mainstream" superhero comics SUCK ~ Both Marvel and DC... movies are now far better, and Star Power 'feels' like the golden age of marvel with Chris Clermont at the helm.. a Very nice Silver Age feel to a futuristic heroine!  Absolutely love it!  $1 a month is not so bad and Michael Terracciano and Garth Graham are fairly regular in new pages! Awesome read!

$1 to https://www.patreon.com/LeeandLie/posts [ Amalee of Leeandlie ] ... I just LOVE this young woman's voice and her english translations of some of my favorite anime' songs!  I can now sing a long with the Anime' series theme song s I love!  I do indeed cherish the gift of song this young lady had granted me with her efforts... well worth $1/song!

...so I'm AM seriously considering becoming a patron of Flipside.. I've been here for years too.. so why not? I'm obviously not going to suddenly loose interest! :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on May 03, 2017, 01:45:47 pm
Wow. Hurricane Eye's really moving, now. I wonder how the Thin Man will respond when it comes his way...?  ???
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 04, 2017, 09:23:33 pm
I have a theory. I do not believe that the Storm makes people violent. Just potentially violent.

It's like this. Remember the fight or flight instinct? It takes over when one is under absolute stress (research has shown there is actually a third instinct, to do nothing, to freeze or go into shock). In other words, the person basically becomes who they are when their public persona is under strain, when they are pushed to the limit, and their true personality shows through.

A person who is likely to run during extreme stress will run. Someone who is likely to turn violent under stress will also do so. So we would get to see the real Lehm, and have psycho maid flip out.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 05, 2017, 06:36:21 am
"...ulp, got dark?"

"Eh...yeah... gotta go!"

.....

As a young boy, I was terrified of the dark... almost to paralysis... but I got through it by putting on a brave face for my little sister who was worse!

But I was STILL Scared.. I was a really smart kid and intellectually I knew there was nothing int he darkness that could harm me.. but I was still afraid.  Some nights in my bunch bed I'd wake int he dark and not beable to get back to sleep for over an hour or more just paralyzed with fear... it was irrational, but it was how I felt.  Perhaps too many sci-fi movies with scary monsters.  I remember one in particular from Space 1999 that particularly HORRIFIED me!

Anyway one night I woke and again I was too terrified to go back to sleep... and I got mad.  I was sleepy wanted to sleep, couldn't sleep and my mind told me I was being stupid ~ There was NOTHING in the dark... but I was still scared.  So, I did something about it... I got out of bed careful not to wake my little sister {we're two years apart in age} sleeping on the bottom bunk {she hated the heights of the top bunk}.. I did not turn on the lights.. but felt my way along the walls in pitched darkness and found my way to the living room... and the large mostly open floor in the center and I sat down and said, "I refuse to be scared ANYMORE..so if there IS anything in the dark come and get me or go away!"

... I sat there for almost an hour.  Of course nothing happened... but I was ready to fight tooth and nail if something did {silly child bravery}, even though I intellectually knew there was nothing going to actually happen.  But it worked, after that I was never paralyzed with fear of the dark.  I must have been maybe age 8 or so.

Even now as an adult of Age 46 I sometimes feel the tug of trepidation staring into the darkness.. but I brush it asside as a silly memory of child fears.

So.. was this a Fight or Flight reaction? 

I did not turn violent... though I do consider myself a fighter in my adult life, and I'm always ready with wooden Boken in my car back seat or pocket knife on my key chain to be prepared for any situation needing tools or martial skill to resolve.  Never been arrested for ANYTHING, only initiated two fights in my youth, and None in my Adult life.

Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on May 05, 2017, 12:28:37 pm
Cute story. I too was terrified of darkness as a kid, and it still makes me very uncomfortable. I read somewhere that the fear of darkness is something instinctual, innate, that was passed on from our ancestors. Once upon a time there really were things out there in the dark that could kill you. Something epigenetics, which is quite fascinating.

Relating to the current page, hahahahah
He's like "Nope, F. this!"
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: MaronaPossessed on May 05, 2017, 07:06:48 pm
Maytag's answer to everything when she has no answer:

Tie everyone up. Have sex with them.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on May 05, 2017, 08:20:25 pm
I guess this answers my question about the Thin Man. It appears that Maytag never completely trusted him, and is using Eye to Clean House. My next guess is that the Thin Man knows more about Eye than Maytag suspects, and she's going to get some answers...
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 05, 2017, 11:44:28 pm
Maytag's answer to everything when she has no answer:

Tie everyone up. Have sex with them.

..yes please!  I have no issues with this strategy! :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 06, 2017, 01:20:42 am
I'm liking the first four panels. It's like "not so tough now, huh?"  ;D

I suspect as much too. Also, if she realizes she CAN trust them, she'll probably try to acclimate (some of) them to the Storm.

I'm gonna read that story sunphoenix.

Third reaction, to do nothing. Of course, to do nothing is never truly to do nothing, there is a yin-yang seesaw of fear and fight. To nothing, plus fear is to be in shock. To do nothing plus fight is to face one's fear. And dead center, is to analyze one's fear. To still be afraid, and yet want to see beyond the storm.

I think the first part of the story is more impressive than the latter. It sounds like if you were in third phase, your best instinct to get you through intact would be concern for your sister.

As for me, I am very studious, but in terms of what everyone else seems to know, it always seems they have the important stuff figured out. Of course, sometimes they were wrong, becomoing ambitious about things that don't matter, but even the higher levrel lessons, when I became spiritual, I noticed most of the other people got it alot more.

There was a similar point of adjustment to physical darkness. But I took another approach. I at one point believed in elementalism (still do, but there's more important things out there). That things like Earth and Fire, had a sort of presence in the world and in our bodies. And stuff. Each of these had a sort of breathing style and a tai chi like kata, but anyway the point is... one night I decided to study Darkness. My fear of the dark never truly went away but I basically was at a hotel on vacation, and I decided to allow myself to become completely afraid of the dark, and then just study what I felt. Ummm, it was interesting, but didn't really change too much.

 What did was one day I was on a trip, and I got some of hymn stuck in my head. "In him there is no darkness at all, the night and the day are both alike..." It would appear that light and dark are opposites, but this isn't really what either Taoism or Christianity implies. Rather than light and dark being two extremes (fundies see it this way, nobody else does), Light is the unity of everything (all colors put together, all concepts put together even apparently opposite concepts), while Darkness, of the kind that includes pain and the despair of loved ones dying, is separation (again, you find this in the color wheel). That the reason we fear death is that there is a sense of never being able to see them again (Christianity teaches this as an illusion, while Taoism teaches reality itself is an illusion). The point that I glean from this, is that as I later discovered, Taoism had a number of states of existence (interestingly, Buddhism beat out Taoism for popularity, because they said basically nothing about an afterlife, but it is more personally interesting). Basically, thye have The Void
 (Wu-chi), then separation into opposites, and the Tao is everything INCLUDING separation, in cycles. Or as Sora claims "Kingdom Hearts is Light!" before closing the gate to keep out both the heartless and King Mickey. ...What? I'm a geek.

Also, hum the Smurfs song while reading panels one  through two then at three through five gradually switch to bass keys and whole notes. It cracked me up.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 07, 2017, 04:53:29 am
Hmmm.. interesting perspective Mrs. Briefs... I think I'll try that ...when I'm alone in the dark next time.. to allow my fear to come to the fore and analyze it. 

Honestly, when I "look" at my phantom fears in the dark the mental image is of the most Horrid things I can imagine.  H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulian mythos is the second, but those images are so out there ~ my rational mind can much more easily fight them off... but the primary imagery my fears take are of H.R. Geigers Aliens and facehuggers, those spark a almost primal Horror dread, and terror-filled panic.  I think this is so because I have seen such images in movies in motion in action so lifelike that they have a more 'solid' representation in my mind.  But again.. my mind understands such things ARE Not real and dreading them is irrational!

There is a small second part to the story, I didn't think it important to include based upon my point ...

A few days later when it was time to go to bed... usually my sister Samantha waited for me to go into the back of the house to turn on the lights so she would not have to enter the darkness herself.  This time I took her hand and told her to come with me.  She was clearly scard but I told her nothing will happen and she followed me trembling.. in our room in the pitch black {we had these really this dark green window shade that let No light in ~ funny the thing you remember from youth}.  She wanted to leave or turn on the lights immediately, but I pulled her close and hugged her.  Told her there was nothing int he dark that would hurt her... and I would ALWAYS be her protector.

Me and my sister are very close, always have been, something my father stressed was that I always protect my sister .. and I took that very seriously as a child ... and still as an adult. 

Anyways .. she was still afraid of the dark but I noticed slowly less and less as the years went by... I'd like to think I helped. She's all grown up and Very Independent now, but a month or so ago she told me I was always her Prince Protector as a child.. and she still considers me so.. kinda made my day.  :-*

Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: MaronaPossessed on May 08, 2017, 04:33:00 pm
huh...was gonna say "the nerve of her taking the gold and running off"..then again..."the nerve of lehm bringing her here in the first place."
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on May 09, 2017, 11:25:18 am
Maytag right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL-voZ-kQ2I  :P
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 10, 2017, 05:08:04 am
Fifty Million Gold Darker (or is it Freed?  ;D )
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: dekutree64 on May 10, 2017, 10:21:32 am
Lying to a truth specialist, Maytag? When Corona already knows good and well that the room wasn't empty? Hopefully this is part of a strategy, and not an actual attempt to fool him.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 10, 2017, 10:26:35 am
It's not to fool him, at least, it is to fool him but not to hide information. It's to make him blurt out or reveal that he knows exactly what is inside this room.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 10, 2017, 11:20:36 am
It's not to fool him, at least, it is to fool him but not to hide information. It's to make him blurt out or reveal that he knows exactly what is inside this room.

...Let's hope so. Lying is so ignoble and not worthy of the woman Maytag is and aspires to be! Though clearly Maytag has made no attempt to hide Eye's presence.

And Bern would not approve of lying.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on May 10, 2017, 04:35:08 pm
Yes, a ruse by Maytag to get the Thin Man to reveal what or who he believes is in there....  8)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 13, 2017, 06:36:18 am
Busted.. but you're right it worked he spilled the beans..some of them at least.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 13, 2017, 06:49:58 am
"I won't let you experiment on her!"

"Wre're not gonna experiment on her. We're sending her to Charles Xavier's school to control her powers."

"Oh. Okay!"
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 14, 2017, 03:38:37 am
"I won't let you experiment on her!"

"Wre're not gonna experiment on her. We're sending her to Charles Xavier's school to control her powers."

"Oh. Okay!"

Now THAT would be Tre' Cool! :)

Lehm Bucket list -
Tied down an Straddled by Maytag {Check!}   :-*
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on May 16, 2017, 03:28:58 am
OH, I thought the chapter was going to finish with the last page, in a "dun dun duuuuunnn" fashion. Oh well.
Looking forward to finding out what is so special about this girl. Also, I'm curious to see what's under that mask of his.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 16, 2017, 03:45:40 pm
Brion seems to almost always have 30 or 60 page chapters. 30 pages might be okay for this, actually, reading it again. Also, I have no idea how one manages to have a precise page length like that.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 19, 2017, 06:04:22 am
Also, I have no idea how one manages to have a precise page length like that.

...lots of planning and practice! :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 23, 2017, 04:02:33 pm
She's got a point there.

Also, it makes very little sense that if you want truth to escape, you wipe people's minds when they leave. Why would you do that if you're concerned about the truth?  ???
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: mittfh on May 24, 2017, 02:45:01 pm
"...I will pay every person I owe, then I will turn myself in."

Yeah, right, sure, as if... :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 24, 2017, 10:28:49 pm
Actually, he seems to be telling the truth.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 26, 2017, 01:05:37 pm
She's got a point there.

Also, it makes very little sense that if you want truth to escape, you wipe people's minds when they leave. Why would you do that if you're concerned about the truth?  ???

I think Lehm's issue is he has not discovered his definitive "truth"... and is still searching for his understanding.  If he allowed people to leave without wiping portions of their memory they would indeed reveal his deeds and potentially lead people to him.. before he has the truth he is seeking... hence why he needs to wipe their memories.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 26, 2017, 08:08:27 pm
"This world is not real" is not enough of a truth?

Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 29, 2017, 05:51:44 pm
"This world is not real" is not enough of a truth?

I think he wants to know more than that. He knows that already (that the world is not real)... what he doesn't know is why the world is the way it is, how it was made or modified to be this way... and most importantly, WHO did this to world - why they did it and where, if there is such a place, IS the 'real world'?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 29, 2017, 08:29:22 pm
For him, yes. But, recall, his mission is to bring the truth to the world. The other stuff is academic, the truth relevant to the world is that they are being deceived.

It's like, you could tell your soon to be girlfriend "I love you" and this is the truth. The truth that "I first met you when I was six and I have been watching you in disguise" may also be the truth, but it is truth that most people do not need to know. In fact, you would be worried about the effect of knowing such a truth, and the first truth is more relevant.

Thin Man's job is to expose the lie of the world, so as to undermine its power. The only reason the other stuff would be needed is if he wanted people involved personally in the study of reality. Most people will care less about this, and the more important issue, moving away from the deception of magic, will be accomplished. Plus the last issue (who did this) will likely be flushed out when people start trying to hunt qualia down. 

Which brings us to the last accusation "You were never on my side." Honestly, she was kidnapped, deceived, and made to do the bidding of someone she had no stake with. Considering this, she did still do her job. But Lehm's truth really isn't relevant to her. The truth she cares about freeing is Eye.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 30, 2017, 12:37:08 am
... thought Maytag's expression in panel 2 seems to say... she somewhat empathizes with him on some level, but she decides to be truthful for all the reasons you bring up and the fact Lehm is admittedly being hypocritical she cannot in good conscience side with a man who even if he doesn't directly do it intentionally, allows innocent people to be brutalized and twisted into monsters to be let loose to sow even more pain and suffering on the innocent of the world.  Lehm may be a seeker of truth which is admirable in Maytag's mind... but he is willing to do ANYTHING to get to his 'truth' regardless of how many lives it wreaks or ends prematurely..

Despite Lehm's cultured speak and polite ways ~ he's a monster who she cannot side with!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 30, 2017, 06:40:37 am
I think the key to understanding Lehm's "monstrous" behavior is this.

(Let's use a non-government example)

Surely everyone wants to solve cancer, or have a car that runs on a renewable energy source. But if you invented say an easy method of controlling cancer (say, an exercise and diet method) or some source of energy that is so easy that it's a wonder that people haven't invented it before (in pretty muchevery case of someone researching cold fusion or perpetual motion, they pretty much committed career suicide), these are to do with the problem of having competition with the current system, since in the above method of cancer cure they aren't making money, and in the other case either it is effective and marketable, or it isn't. These are not competing technologies, they are new ideas (right or wrong) that change the status quo.

Whenever you expose something fishy about a system, those who are part of the old system go into denial mode and those who knew about it will create violence. Is this truth worth it?

The answer is a reluctant yes. We know that the Nazi system, most of the people were in the dark about gas chambers. This is what happens when people support a system that doesn't tell the whole truth.

Now, here's point. Yes, Lehm made actual physical monsters. Yes, Lehm's truth ruined lives (think about Maytag, wanting to compete in the contest, suddenly finding herself out of luck, with no knowledge of how she got there, and possibly with mutant limbs or something). Yes, Lehm possibly helped get rid of most of the leaders of a magical city, but making a super-mage.

 But... we currently have a government where healers can treat for free, only because of oppressively high taxes, and a criminal magical government that has actually killed people and messed with their minds to such a point where they can't even be sure what they saw was real. It in fact looked like half the room was under a mind fog spell. We have a police force that, given what we know of this system, probably quietly gets rid of people even those who pay their taxes, who don't particularly believe in magic. Lehm is trying to expose magic. Thing of the implications of this for a second, that he has to hide his lair, because the system is such that there were probably other eccentrics around but they all got arrested, even before the crime of creating monsters.
 Now on the other end, we have equally dystopic nation where people seem to have the right to do whatever, so long as it doesn't coerce or hurt another, but as we saw, an outsider like Bern is able to become desperate for medical treatment and have no money no options. When she tries to make them , she winds up fighting for her life to entertain people, and cheating on her lover to get out of the system. And after all of that, they don't keep their bargain and try to rope her in for more time.

These are the truth of the governments of Maytag and Bern's world. Exposing that such things are controlled by a system that isn't even real will unseat the ruling class, and cause violence and instability. But peace at the cost of ignorance ceases to be worthy when it causes needless deaths every day. The same system that creates the Qualia can create someone who has a healing factor and doesn't need to die. But it doesn't. Instead magic is used largely for commercial and security reasons.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on May 31, 2017, 08:33:11 pm
Oh no. Maytag's not gonna let the dude go, then put Eye back out of guilt, is she? And what's the deal with all shadows now, Brion? You got some Samm Schwartz in you?  ;D  (Archie comics fans know what I'm talking about)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on May 31, 2017, 09:37:23 pm
I like the shadows.. kinda noir... intimate y'know! "Time for tha' lovin'!"    :-*

...but in all seriousness, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I'm actually getting the feeling that Maytag actually likes Lehm.. for his dedication and drive.. his goal is admirable, perhaps not his methods, but she is also familiar with hidden monsters inside. 

Which is why she is so frustrated with Lehm, not angry that's a different thing.  Maytag is no paragon of justice, but she does care about fairness ~ NOT the same as justice.  Being twisted into a monster and then having your memories erased and not paid for your pain is not fair!  So Lehm's almost fatalistic, 'selfless devotion to a higher goal ~ The Truth... and yet he wears a mask and keep secrets is a similar dichotomy to Maytag... she wanted to be accepted for 'who she is'... and yet she puts on a acting personality for other's to like or at least relate to rather than be her true self.  Maytag and Lehm are very similar... he actually "gets" her and she "gets" him... THAT appeals to Maytag ~ I think on some levels even SHE may not realize}!  It also frustrates her cause she cannot condone Lehm's actions that have hurt and killed people.

And is it me or does it seem Maytag may be pondering some 'devouring' of her own? :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on June 02, 2017, 09:26:39 pm
I'm not sure "fairness" is what characterizes Maytag. She mainly cares about this, as a result of being around Bern (justice). She in terms of value system is roughly halfway between truth and justice, Lehm and Bern. But if I had to pin a trait on her, I would say determined curiosity. Unlike truth, she doesn't really care about the correct way things are. She cares about knowing about things, learning and having experiences. She describes pain on two occasions as "an interesting experience." (Once in Book 0 with Moss, the second time with 2nd phase) She seems to also be very interested in sex, particularly experimentation, dspite being the emotionless type (doesn't seem consistent with that personality).
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on June 03, 2017, 03:45:20 am
Maybe sex makes her curious because it is pleasurable in a purely physical sense to someone who is naturally unemotional... perhaps it is something she can truly 'feel"?  Like even on a pretty sunny hot day.. she feels no emotional attachment to the beauty.. but the cool breeze catching in her hair IS something she can physically experience beyond an intellectual or emotional reaction that is 'real' to her?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on June 05, 2017, 07:58:24 pm
Is that a shadow coming up behind Maytag?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on June 06, 2017, 07:39:01 pm
This is what happens when you don't go with the blessing of your benefactor.

They could have arranged a ride with Melter, maybe gotten some more info from Lehm, and had a nice "chat" with Marce. Now they have to wander the land on foot.

Well, unless Miss Kitty can manufacture a boat they can sail on. Hey Brion, is there a size or duration limit on the summons she can create? We know they can't be weapons, but well, nobody would know this stuff but you.

Also, everyone read this. https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm The whole thing about seeing images.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on June 07, 2017, 12:29:20 pm
"Wherever you think your going sweety... you can't get there from here!!!!"

But seriously, why do I find seeing that little bit of Maytag's pretty blonde hair peeking out at the nape of the neck of her mask so darn cute!?!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on June 09, 2017, 01:16:26 am
Does Maytag have that gold with her? I don't see it....
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on June 14, 2017, 07:35:34 pm
How sad for Eye. I have this terrible feeling she'll either go back to being isolated, or for some reason, die. Surely she can't continue to roam free, even with her "cat"?  :-\
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: mittfh on June 16, 2017, 02:01:24 pm
I wonder if Eye's fear aura (for want of a better term) is completely and utterly autonomous, or if it's possible with some training to 'feel' it and learn to exercise at least some degree of control over it. Having been stuck in that one room with the cat-thing would have led her to believe the former, but what if that isn't the case?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on June 17, 2017, 10:21:49 pm
It just occurred to me: Maytag is the safest person in that world at the moment, right? Nothing that can try to harm her can approach her with Eye around. Going back to my question about her having the gold, this sure can come in handy in case thieves want to take it. Hmm--that's one of the reasons Maytag took Eye with her, didn't she....?  8)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on June 18, 2017, 10:28:55 pm
I wonder what Eye's effect looks like from the outside.. a roaming black cloud of utter terror or a perfect black sphere of will annihilation?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on June 20, 2017, 09:33:45 am
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3179

It looks like this.

Also, the next page is awesome.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3181

You know that talk with Lehm? The ENTIRE TIME, Marce is sitting in this zone. ;D COuldn't happen to a nicer person.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 08, 2017, 02:35:43 am
Well, DOY, Maytag! Did you really have to ask that?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on July 10, 2017, 05:39:49 pm
Well, DOY, Maytag! Did you really have to ask that?

Maytag never asks something without a reason. She must be offering to inherit it instead. Although I don't see how this will help, Eye knows literally nothing about how to deal with normal people.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 11, 2017, 08:27:13 pm
Well, DOY, Maytag! Did you really have to ask that?

Maytag never asks something without a reason. She must be offering to inherit it instead. Although I don't see how this will help, Eye knows literally nothing about how to deal with normal people.
Inherit the curse? Now that is interesting! Of course this would complicate things with Bern, but hey, Maytag cut her own eyes out, so anything is possible....
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on July 12, 2017, 06:24:08 am
Not necessarily so.  Maytag may not be offering to inherit the curse.. but what she IS doing is giving voice to questions about Eye's future that Eye.. up an until now has never thought of or questioned.  Maytag is not asking the questions for herself.. but to get Eye to ponder them!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on July 12, 2017, 06:45:27 pm
Not necessarily so.  Maytag may not be offering to inherit the curse.. but what she IS doing is giving voice to questions about Eye's future that Eye.. up an until now has never thought of or questioned.  Maytag is not asking the questions for herself.. but to get Eye to ponder them!

Again, May never does things without a reason. We shall see what she intends to do with the curse, if she does plan to inherit it. Which begs the other question, why can't Miss Kitty take the curse herself? She can obviously provide for herself, and doesn't seem to care about being alone, given that she has probably watched after a few of these. Or just pass it on to the first unfortunate soul? What is so precious about it that an innocent child has to be tortured by loneliness all her life?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on July 12, 2017, 09:55:54 pm
Yeah, excuse the hell out of me.... Maytag continues to shock and amaze me EVERY TIME... what a remarkable woman!

So yeah, very intriguing questions but you missed one... how did young eye gain the 'gift/curse' in the first place? Who passed on to her and why HER specifically?  Also why must Anyone bear it at all?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on July 13, 2017, 03:18:43 am
Yeah, excuse the hell out of me.... Maytag continues to shock and amaze me EVERY TIME... what a remarkable woman!

So yeah, very intriguing questions but you missed one... how did young eye gain the 'gift/curse' in the first place? Who passed on to her and why HER specifically?  Also why must Anyone bear it at all?

Ohhhhh. "A person like You?" Uh oh.

Something tells me that this isn't really a curse. I won't give away my thoughts, except to hint.

 It's an anchor. And Eye's perky personality is a large portion of why she was chosen. May isn't ideal because of her past.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: MaronaPossessed on July 17, 2017, 04:07:13 pm
Seeing Eye's look makes me think having Maytag around is the best thing ever^^
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on July 19, 2017, 05:36:12 am
Indeed Maytag's approach may be indeed directed to make Eye ponder things she has not ever pondered and putting thoughts of how SHE wants to direct her life rather than be told what to do by the cat all the time. With out EVER mentioning open rebellion against the cat.. Maytag is skillfully planting the seeds of such thoughts just with her presence and indirect conversation with the cat!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 20, 2017, 01:10:28 am
Why do I get the feeling that this is a trap?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on July 20, 2017, 05:11:45 am
It might be an ambush, but in terms of them getting to where they're going, we actually know this place.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1599

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1601

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1603

Definitely part of the path to where they need to get.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 20, 2017, 08:22:31 pm
It might be an ambush, but in terms of them getting to where they're going, we actually know this place.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1599

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1601

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1603

Definitely part of the path to where they need to get.
Oh, okay. That's right. You have a very good memory. I think I'll just leave all the speculation to you from now on...  :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on July 22, 2017, 07:57:34 pm
Well, not all of it.

My memory is actually very poor, it just works in a weird way.

You know how some people like Moss have weird abilities? Well, I kinda have one too. :o

Essentially, my visual memory is fairly good (I actually memorized the table for an economics page and reproduced it perfectly, along with a map of the regions of China for another test). Things that I see, I can usually recall, and I have the ability to connect things in strange ways forming visual symbolic patterns. My memory of other information types however is terrible, such that despite practicing for days, I cannot recite lines for drama.
 And I have memory of dreams that appear kinda to happen in the future (http://howtolucid.com/prophetic-dreams/), then I forget them, and then a week before it happens, I get a sense of deja vu. I can sorta compare to such dreams to be like "this is/this is not how it happened before" based on my personal actions and their effect on upcoming events. My long term memory however as a result is bad, very bad, because I have no real grasp of whether anything in my life has happened before. I also cannot remember most of my childhood before age ten. Kinda like my brain somehow got front-loaded, so I have memory that most people shouldn't have, and as a result it ate another part of my brain.  :P 

Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: sunphoenix on July 23, 2017, 05:53:26 am
Well, not all of it.

My memory is actually very poor, it just works in a weird way.

You know how some people like Moss have weird abilities? Well, I kinda have one too. :o

Essentially, my visual memory is fairly good (I actually memorized the table for an economics page and reproduced it perfectly, along with a map of the regions of China for another test). Things that I see, I can usually recall, and I have the ability to connect things in strange ways forming visual symbolic patterns. My memory of other information types however is terrible, such that despite practicing for days, I cannot recite lines for drama.
 And I have memory of dreams that appear kinda to happen in the future (http://howtolucid.com/prophetic-dreams/), then I forget them, and then a week before it happens, I get a sense of deja vu. I can sorta compare to such dreams to be like "this is/this is not how it happened before" based on my personal actions and their effect on upcoming events. My long term memory however as a result is bad, very bad, because I have no real grasp of whether anything in my life has happened before. I also cannot remember most of my childhood before age ten. Kinda like my brain somehow got front-loaded, so I have memory that most people shouldn't have, and as a result it ate another part of my brain.  :P

Oh my! That is a wonderfully unique gift! :)  I only have a decent singing voice... people complement me on it all the time, wanna swap? :)
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on July 24, 2017, 05:35:38 pm
I dunno about that. Alot of people have oddities to them. Supposedly, Buddhist monks can dry clothing through body heat. This world is a weirder place than most of us think.

Anyway, why do I think Eye and Miss Kitty are likely to get categorized as "magic" and stopped at the gate?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: MaronaPossessed on July 24, 2017, 06:13:55 pm
I dunno about that. Alot of people have oddities to them. Supposedly, Buddhist monks can dry clothing through body heat. This world is a weirder place than most of us think.

Anyway, why do I think Eye and Miss Kitty are likely to get categorized as "magic" and stopped at the gate?
Or...if Eye's Dark Storm is considered "magic," maybe there's a loophole to remove it? Having a hunch here.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on July 25, 2017, 01:30:19 am
Let me guess about your hunch: This "wall" could somehow "filter out" Eye's power once she passes through it to the other side?
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Ardanis on July 27, 2017, 09:47:41 pm
Cyber cat said the wall prevents magic(al)? transfers, not transfers of magic.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Puyon on July 31, 2017, 11:28:59 am
Not to be that guy, but we've seen CS3 be referred to as she, he, and it, and I guess I shouldn't be nitpicky about the gender of a faceless cat but I'm just confused for how I should refer to it. I guess it doesn't matter??
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on August 01, 2017, 05:05:52 am
By the characters or by us?

Technically I think in one comic, it mentioned it was female. But people keep forgetting. Including Eye, who calls the cat him. And when first introduced on page 56 she. May asks if the cat is a girl cat, and CS3 says "It's not important."
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on August 01, 2017, 04:38:19 pm
I hope that Eye manages to have fun in Iscariot, and not run into any trouble.  She's lead a very sheltered life so far, and it would be crushing for her to have a taste of freedom only to immediately suffer misfortune  :( .
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on August 02, 2017, 11:07:36 am
By the characters or by us?

Technically I think in one comic, it mentioned it was female. But people keep forgetting. Including Eye, who calls the cat him. And when first introduced on page 56 she. May asks if the cat is a girl cat, and CS3 says "It's not important."

Damn, that might be me that forgot, and not Eye.  I should probably go back and fix that!
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on August 09, 2017, 04:39:26 am
Honestly, if CS3 says it's not important, it's not important. I'm genderfluid and although I prefer female pronouns, biologically I'm male. Legally, my license says female, and someone here calls me Miss Briefs.

Without looking under the cat, we won't know, and it is hard to tell from the voice. If Eye called the cat him and her interchangeably, that would be okay with me. It adds to his/her weirdness. I'm not sure the cat should be an it, though (as Maytag said). Plus there are two panels addressing the cat's femaleness, and two panels (May and Eye in the recent comic) where the cat is called he. Either way it takes a chunk out of the story to typecast a cat that doesn't need a box.

Also, way to pull at our heartstrings Brion! We kinda know the answer, unless either Eye wanders forever on the outskirts, or lives in an a house nearby the town, or just says fuck it and goes into the town to terrorize oit.
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: monimoni on August 09, 2017, 03:23:37 pm
Honestly I doubt that cat should have a gender at all, like a sort of guardian spirit-type thing or even a sort of machine/robot created just for this purpose (even his/her name gives a slight hint). Really looking forward to finding out what Lehm means with "setting the truth free".
Title: Re: Chapter 48: Discussion
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on August 10, 2017, 05:26:53 am
Honestly I doubt that cat should have a gender at all, like a sort of guardian spirit-type thing or even a sort of machine/robot created just for this purpose (even his/her name gives a slight hint). Really looking forward to finding out what Lehm means with "setting the truth free".

Robots are the only things with an it gender (it is an object), fairies or spirits tend to be his/her interchangeable gender, some people in the LGBT have adopted the they singular gender label but in a story this would work best for a character like Yugi Moto of Yu-gi-oh or Sora from KH where multiple souls are in the same body (and those cases usually they just call that person him or her based on physical gender).

Seems like the truth is scared to be set loose right now.