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Title: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Brion Foulke on February 20, 2015, 11:53:47 am
This is the thread where you can vote on the subject of the next chapter!  Yes, that's right, you can vote!  It's up to you!

Here are your choices:
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

Instructions for voting: It's simple, just copy and paste one of the above options into your post!  Each person gets one chance to vote.

(Disclaimer: Please don't try to make more than one account to vote multiple times, I can see your IP address, and if I see you doing that I will void your votes.)

(Note: You used to have to email me to get signed up on the forum, but in order to make things easier I am setting the forum to allow you to sign up easily.)

***

Update: As of Friday the 27th, the voting is closed!  The final results are as follows:

Crest: 23
Maytag: 28
Bernadette: 79

Thanks everyone who voted!  The next chapter (chapter 43) will be a Bernadette chapter!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Puyon on February 20, 2015, 12:02:30 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: bada7933 on February 20, 2015, 12:10:19 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Because I really wanna see where this goes.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: eitarax on February 20, 2015, 12:14:17 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Because I love Bernadette, and really want to know what happens!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: dongyrn on February 20, 2015, 12:27:23 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Balthasar on February 20, 2015, 12:28:04 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

It is is just to much of a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: pwbritt on February 20, 2015, 12:36:51 pm
2. Bernadette(Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Knite0 on February 20, 2015, 12:45:54 pm
I vote 2 cause I wanna see something badass instead of the more depressing things just yet.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Abstract Vagabond on February 20, 2015, 12:49:24 pm
I'm ok with either Maytag or Bern. My vote is officially on Maytag because I have this thing for patterns and with it going May, Crest, Bern, May, Crest, Bern, may Crest burn.... ahem, anyways, my vote wants to stay on the pattern. Still, for the record, I get the point of all the Bern votes. That was left with a bigger cliffhanger than the other two storylines and thus am ok with the pattern break if it's done here.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Cayen on February 20, 2015, 12:51:47 pm
Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: superduperficial on February 20, 2015, 12:55:00 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I registered just to vote. I've been following Flipside for years, and the Colosseum arc is one of my favorites. Please continue it! I would love to see the Maytag/Dark Cell arc afterwards, as that's also a very compelling storyline. :)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Ratty on February 20, 2015, 01:26:31 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: cantrip on February 20, 2015, 01:30:55 pm
While Chapter 42 is an incredible cliffhanger and I'd really like to see what happens next, that is the nature of cliffhangers. ;)

Vote:

1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

:)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Shazam on February 20, 2015, 01:34:12 pm
Hah.  I'm apparently (as often the case)  the outlier.  I really want to see what's happening with May and am most engaged with Bern's arc so far, but I vote for :

3. Crest

So far his arc hasn't really gone far into his journey,  and I was actually pretty disappointed by the prior chapter's 'Suspira was really just under some mental delusion'. Thus I'd like to see his arc get some more meat. Also where Bern is capable but lacking depth,  Crest has a bit of complexity but is invisible. I'm curious to see how Brion handles his solo 'vision quest'.

That said I'd also enjoy seeing more of Bern. The stage is set and I'm into it. May is the least interesting to me,  as the comic is already almost all about her. It'll be nice for her to get in touch with her human emotions,  but I'm not as hungry to learn more about her and see her developed.

PS -  could always throw in 4. Bloody Mary,  because just as many shows and comics have discovered it can be surprising which characters the audience falls in love with,  and I think just about everyone loves Mary and I refuse to believe her story is at an end :)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Foomaster on February 20, 2015, 01:34:45 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Because as much as I want to find out what happens with Crest & Suspira, I can't stand cliffhangers.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: shiney on February 20, 2015, 01:35:53 pm
Are you serious?  Registered just to say:

Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

No more cliffhanger.  Make it happen.  This is seriously DBZ pacing now and I can't wait anymore!!!!!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: krinny on February 20, 2015, 01:41:12 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I don't meant to criticize, but really?
First you give us this nice backstory with Bern in the Colosseum. However this entire arc has been DRAGGING along. Painfully so.
Finally get to see a potential fight scene, and what do we get? Ten pages of talking, 50-60. Then you are going to take that fight away?! WHY?

When I First read this comic, I got the feeling it was about Crest.
Then we started getting more backstory with Bernadette and Maytag. It is clear you wanted to take the story in a direction that focuses more on them.
In my opinion, whatever happens with Crest is just a bonus at the moment.

We just got over 60 pages of the Dark Cell, and 30 Pages of Crest.
We DON'T get to see many fight scenes in the comic at all. What I see is lots of dialog, mind games, and social interaction.
Don't get me wrong, I sort of like that about the stories so far. But it wouldn't hurt to take a break from that now and again.

Let the voting decide, and hope all things go well.

Edit: Felt like modifying my post.

What are we going to get in contrary to picking Bernadette?

We can get Maytag.
She will either brute force her way through the Dark Cell (Boring), think of some cliche way to overcome the fear, or think of a 'brilliant solution". (Because YAY for stupid side characters, why couldn't the Thin Man have thought of that for the X amount of years he's been attempting this?!)
Either that or she will outright leave, which goes down a whole other storyline we don't need to see or think about. She will leave with nothing, not have her dimension bag the Thin Man conveniently still has, and learn of Bernadette's fate.

We could get Crest and Suspiria.
Now that the conclave is mostly out of the way, Suspiria has very little in her way that's going to stop her from finding the Thin Man. While finding him alone would be a difficult task, this will inevitably lead us back to Maytag and possibly mess up her attempts at entering the Dark Cell or her future. In which case what's the point?
Crest might come into play and try to talk her out of it. "Yes, your parents are still alive. There right here, see? Stop being crazy please?" BORING.
Everyone here is fighting each other, when both of their goals are the same thing. Find the Thin Man. Except nobody can see past their own tunnel vision for the sake of drawn out story.

Bernadette is the only person who is currently working her way out of a very bad situation. She was dealt a shity hand, and is now trying to deal with it. And now you want to shift focus away from that?
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kulimbor on February 20, 2015, 01:51:44 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I agree too with several others. Its too much to stop here. ITs too big of a cliffhanger, especially after all that dragging on a bit with the decision-making from the last several pages. Keep it going! Must see what happens!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: QbLulu on February 20, 2015, 01:53:51 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

It is about time Maytag shows up again.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: AnonTheMouse on February 20, 2015, 01:54:06 pm
Crest, Bernadette, hell, I'd take a chapter devoted to Melter-cat. Anyone but Maytag!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Stargoat on February 20, 2015, 02:11:32 pm
3. Crest! (Only cause Bernadette has it though.)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: amarroo on February 20, 2015, 02:12:14 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I have been reading for a little over a year now and this story arc is bar far one of my favorites, but you can't leave it as a cliffhanger like this, its like waving the nice juicy stake you have been carefully preparing in our starving faces and telling us "Nope.. not yet." XD
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: designeren on February 20, 2015, 02:15:40 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: fasteraubert on February 20, 2015, 02:19:05 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc) PLEASE :)

I also just registered for the sake of voting and have been following the story for years. I have been checking the site 3-5x a day waiting for updates on update days and am really looking forward to seeing how this arc ends!!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: sunphoenix on February 20, 2015, 02:22:17 pm
Much as I'd like to stick with the patern as mentioned above... I get enough shifting story arcs from Goblins.. I want to see where this all leads Bern... :)

2. Bernadette(Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: ixi on February 20, 2015, 02:22:40 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Polly's 20 day sex slave storyline...err..I mean Bernadette fighting of course!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Dhaxis on February 20, 2015, 02:34:48 pm
My vote is on

2. Bernadette (Coliseum)

I can't stand cliffhangers, and especially with this pacing it feels like a real cockblock to stop her arc right before her fight was a sword swing away from happening. I have enjoyed your story immensely, and like many others only registered to cast my vote in. Very rarely do I post on forums, but I'll probably be reading your comic for a long time coming and wish you the best B.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kessleir on February 20, 2015, 02:35:24 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Nibelung on February 20, 2015, 02:45:03 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell). Just because she is my favorite character, and that's it.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: terk1011 on February 20, 2015, 02:58:46 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I'm way to invested in the story right now to switch to a different arc. When I saw intermission pop up in the latest update instead of some sword action, I was audibly disappointed.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: snowstreak on February 20, 2015, 03:16:33 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

I am really interested in seeing what is going on with Suspiria
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: ProfessorBill on February 20, 2015, 03:24:06 pm
2. Bernadette in the Colosseum

And as brutally honest Krinny was...

2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I don't meant to criticize, but really?
First you give us this nice backstory with Bern in the Colosseum. However this entire arc has been DRAGGING along. Painfully so.
Finally get to see a potential fight scene, and what do we get? Ten pages of talking, 50-60. Then you are going to take that fight away?! WHY?

When I First read this comic, I got the feeling it was about Crest.
Then we started getting more backstory with Bernadette and Maytag. It is clear you wanted to take the story in a direction that focuses more on them.
In my opinion, whatever happens with Crest is just a bonus at the moment.

We just got over 60 pages of the Dark Cell, and 30 Pages of Crest.
We DON'T get to see many fight scenes in the comic at all. What I see is lots of dialog, mind games, and social interaction.
Don't get me wrong, I sort of like that about the stories so far. But it wouldn't hurt to take a break from that now and again.

Let the voting decide, and hope all things go well.

Edit: Felt like modifying my post.

What are we going to get in contrary to picking Bernadette?

We can get Maytag.
She will either brute force her way through the Dark Cell (Boring), think of some cliche way to overcome the fear, or think of a 'brilliant solution". (Because YAY for stupid side characters, why couldn't the Thin Man have thought of that for the X amount of years he's been attempting this?!)
Either that or she will outright leave, which goes down a whole other storyline we don't need to see or think about. She will leave with nothing, not have her dimension bag the Thin Man conveniently still has, and learn of Bernadette's fate.

We could get Crest and Suspiria.
Now that the conclave is mostly out of the way, Suspiria has very little in her way that's going to stop her from finding the Thin Man. While finding him alone would be a difficult task, this will inevitably lead us back to Maytag and possibly mess up her attempts at entering the Dark Cell or her future. In which case what's the point?
Crest might come into play and try to talk her out of it. "Yes, your parents are still alive. There right here, see? Stop being crazy please?" BORING.
Everyone here is fighting each other, when both of their goals are the same thing. Find the Thin Man. Except nobody can see past their own tunnel vision for the sake of drawn out story.

Bernadette is the only person who is currently working her way out of a very bad situation. She was dealt a shity hand, and is now trying to deal with it. And now you want to shift focus away from that?

I gotta say, I agree on a lot of those points.  I don't think the story lines would be *boring*, per se, but I really do feel like the pages are dragging on a bit.  And Maytag's become her own cliche; she's predictable.

Obviously no one should tell you how to create your own comic.  It's just (hopefully) constructive criticism.

Also, hitting us with an intermission as soon as we're about to *finally* see some action?  Are you trolling us or what?

(Or are you just trying to get more forum subscribers?)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Davmor on February 20, 2015, 03:31:19 pm
2. Bernadotte Colosseum
 
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: squallevoker on February 20, 2015, 03:33:59 pm
Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)!  : D
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Enkida on February 20, 2015, 03:34:17 pm
2. Bernadette in the Colosseum

I stand by my critique in the critique thread. I'd have taken option 3 if this arc hadn't been drawn out an extra 30 pages for the supposed "suspense" of nothing really happening besides the pages and pages of Polly and Bern feeling verbally guilty at one another.  At this point I just want someone to get stabbed, LOL.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: quille on February 20, 2015, 03:35:31 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Mostly because the previous chapter was 60 pages of pacing nightmare. Literally more than half of it was spent going back and forth over the choices which could have easily been wrapped up way more tightly. Admittedly trying to read into Bernadette's character has been frustrating because of how much she's been saying how she shouldn't be relying on Polly, and yet repeatedly throws her friend and herself in situations where she does nothing but rely on her.

But seeing that I don't care about Maytag or her Dark Cell stuff, I'm a little biased to choose between Bern - who I may be holding out hope for her to not get hit with the stupid stick any more than she has in vain - and Crest, if only because I'm more interested in knowing what is going on with Suspiria.

I don't intend to be mean or anything, but you should really work on your pacing because these arcs shouldn't take as long as they have been. I usually don't mind when a story is moving slow to progress the characters, but it seems like no one has been going anywhere lately.

P.S. I've been reading this comic for years and also am one of those who just registered to vote.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Chnmmr on February 20, 2015, 03:37:00 pm
I vote for (2)

The pacing on her chapter in my opinion has been painfully slow and feels dragged out.  It has finally reached a great point that has people excited, so to change now and leave it at a cliffhanger for another couple of months is too much.

I dare say, I've been a loyal follower of this comic from the absolute beginning and it pains me to admit that this chapter almost caused me to stop reading the comic (or at least check in every few days.)  Please, lets see the Arena arc come to a fulfilling end! :)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Marduk on February 20, 2015, 03:49:53 pm
2, Bernadette.  I've been wondering what she will do: collapse and let them kill her, snap and kill them, or stick to her convictions and just defend herself until they give up - which may or may not involve injuring her opponents.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: bartok on February 20, 2015, 04:16:56 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Purphoros on February 20, 2015, 04:19:23 pm
It seems like Bernadette has a head start, but maybe the vote can be flipped...

1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

Why?
- Because we already have waited way too long for the conclusion, and I'm sure it will prove to be more interesting and complex than just another fighting scene.
- I can get hundreds of fighting scenes only a few clicks away, animated even, or play them myself. But some more of the authors philosophy is not that easily available.
-And of course, because all those babies who cry "No, please no cliffhangers" don't have any sympathy from someone who finally wants to know what the final layer of the black boxes defense is after waiting for what feels like almost a year.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Underground Pyro on February 20, 2015, 04:37:32 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Because screw it, Bern will win anyway.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: NeKaan on February 20, 2015, 05:00:37 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: MaronaPossessed on February 20, 2015, 05:26:21 pm
1. Maytag

To keep the normal flow going.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Sabio on February 20, 2015, 05:48:24 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: quille on February 20, 2015, 05:57:00 pm
-And of course, because all those babies who cry "No, please no cliffhangers" don't have any sympathy from someone who finally wants to know what the final layer of the black boxes defense is after waiting for what feels like almost a year.
Maybe it's just me but I find it immature and discourteous to resort to calling other members as "babies" for stating opinions that differ from yours. Personally speaking, it's not the cliffhanger that bugs me, but the slow pacing that dragged on for the entire chapter. The fact that the chapter is called "The Indomitable Blades" but we didn't actually get to see their relevance during 60 pages of dialogue is even more disappointing.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: NakedRei on February 20, 2015, 05:59:41 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: ResidentWeavil on February 20, 2015, 06:04:21 pm
2. Bernadette

The whole trip to visit dad has dragged on much too long. Didn't she leave to find him about 500 pages ago?
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: MakoSDV on February 20, 2015, 06:29:37 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Sverre on February 20, 2015, 06:58:25 pm
2. Bernadette(Colosseum Storyarc)

Please!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Nakani on February 20, 2015, 07:05:25 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Dont cliffhanger me on this one! GAH!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Brion Foulke on February 20, 2015, 07:41:11 pm
Guys, please keep the criticism in the criticism thread.  And absolutely no fighting in here.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: SAGG on February 20, 2015, 07:58:44 pm
Bern! PLEASE let it be her! After that insanely long scene with her, Polly,  and the warden, I, er, WE deserve to see this through!   ;D
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: TomeWyrm on February 20, 2015, 08:10:34 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

We're in the tail of the buildup to the climax of the current arc (of which the Colosseum is but a sub-arc) and that strikes me as a very poor choice for the location of a cliffhanger.

Maytag would be my second vote, Crest has never really interested me, and Suspira hasn't really been interesting since she killed the conclave. Plus I like worldbuilding :-p
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Rowen Morland on February 20, 2015, 08:40:24 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)


I won't be even a little sad if it is a different outcome but right now I'm just thinking: "Tell me he said, I've got to know."

(Of course I believe that Bernadette will win, so I can always wait to see it happen.)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Vetala on February 20, 2015, 08:55:39 pm
Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Walruswithbenefits on February 20, 2015, 09:02:11 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Timestaller on February 20, 2015, 09:10:20 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: FireWater513 on February 20, 2015, 09:24:03 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

I imagine Bernadette will win by a landslide, and I almost voted for it because it's a huge build up to a cliffhanger. But when I think about it it isn't as big a cliffhanger as all that, it's just that the last chapter was REALLY slow. The entire chapter was basically one big conversation in a cell. Full week goes by and basically 'they talked more'.
I know that's part of the limits of making comics in this venue, but still...
While I'm anxious to get the action going on that fight, I think it would be more artsy to swap to another character and come back to Bern later.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: tanukipurple on February 20, 2015, 09:54:22 pm


2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I signed up for the forum to vote, and read all the comments. Much of the remarks I agree with, tho I am not so annoyed with the focus and pacing as some seem to be, I'm pretty patient. I love this comic, and have been reading for quite some time. It has helped me a great deal, as I really identify with Maytag. It's very refreshing g seeing a comic that explores things that you do :)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Trenzalore on February 20, 2015, 10:30:08 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc), I really want to know if she gets badass or not..

PS -  could always throw in 4. Bloody Mary,  because just as many shows and comics have discovered it can be surprising which characters the audience falls in love with,  and I think just about everyone loves Mary and I refuse to believe her story is at an end :)


But also, I agree with Shazam that there should be a better conclusion/continuation to the Bloody Mary character. She really caught my interest, and of course the interaction between her and Maytag is quite interesting

Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kurai_X_Kitsune on February 20, 2015, 10:30:39 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc) Crest needs some love again
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Daisuki-chan on February 20, 2015, 10:42:58 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

Not only more interesting to me, but it is what Brion, in his infinite wisdom, planned to do anyway. I also don't understand what people really expect if Bern's arc continues. Unless Brion drastically (and thus unexpectedly and probably not for the best) changes the pacing it may take several chapters to really end Bern's arc, and he likely wouldn't do them all at once anyway, so it's at best moving the "problem" to me. Or maybe the masses are fight maniacs, but I haven't found fights to be the most interesting aspect of Flipside anyway... Well, if the fight is what the masses want then perhaps it's fine to get it out of the way. Maybe Brion will make it exceptional, but I expect that I will continue to enjoy other character developments more.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Ginyu on February 20, 2015, 10:43:17 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: starfyredragon on February 20, 2015, 10:50:52 pm
0.75 of my vote goes to Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

0.25 of my vote goes to Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

If it's one vote "total", I would like to make the following adjustment...
Idea of watching comic go to some lame tournament-style story arch: -1,000,000. If I wanted something like that, I'd just watch DBZ or Yugioh.
Watching some super-powerful individual avoid detection by authorities while trying to root out truth... Well, Suspira is more BA than old man Batman pretends to be... net neutral.
Seeing a character who drew me to the comic with her interesting psychology, who's the main character, tackling an unknown with a serious of trials that make readers wonder about their own psychology that that reveals deeper meaning in ourselves, the characters, and in the lore of the world.... +1,000,000

In other suggestions... if we do get stuck on Bernadette's lousy story arc, she's tired and against 3 pros, one who's stronger, and the warden (who sets up these fights for a living) said she doesn't have a chance and will likely die. If she doesn't die in the first few second, I'll be fairly disappointed in the realism of the comic. And if she does die... well, Bernadette's been reliably my least favorite character. She's about as complex and deep a five year old with six duplo bricks. Sure, she's "angsty", but she's not "deep." (Boggles me how people can confuse the two things when they're so different.)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Brion Foulke on February 21, 2015, 12:24:26 am
We're in the tail of the buildup to the climax of the current arc (of which the Colosseum is but a sub-arc) and that strikes me as a very poor choice for the location of a cliffhanger.

Actually, it's a pretty good place.  A poor choice for a cliffhanger would be when a storyline has wrapped up.  Anyplace that "leaves you hanging" is by definition a good place for a cliffhanger.  Not that I mind if people would rather see Bernadette's story continue.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: casianh on February 21, 2015, 01:17:43 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Please, please, please don't leave us hanging? I know the benefit of a cliffhanger when the story is finished, but to be honest, just these past few update have been agonizing. To think we'd get another whole chapter before finding out what happens? T_T
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: chiepah on February 21, 2015, 02:12:49 am
First things first;

1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
I'm curious about the Dark Cell, but more so about the Nanobots that make magic possible.

Next; I think this was a bad place to cast a vote, cliffhangers are good things, but people don't like them. I'd estimate that half the people that are voting Bernadette are actually interested in her as a character. The other half is looking for the payoff from her arc. Probably 2/3 of the people voting for Crest are interested in him, his arc isn't as fresh. Most of us have gotten over Maytag, the anticipation has turned sour.

Conclusion; This vote is more of a measure of how well you setup cliffhangers rather then a vote as to which character is more well liked.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: wowfood on February 21, 2015, 04:50:57 am
Not that it makes much difference at this point but

3 crest.

We left maytag in a bit of a "What will happen" situation last time, and it was cliffhangerish in a way.  We've now left bern on the precipice of something potentially awesome (I have an idea of what's going to happen, but very clicch?) We left crest about to go on a journey. 

It's like we left bern at the battle of helms deep, we've left maytag just after the mines of moria.  And crest is still at the start of an unexpected journey.  I'd at least like to see him catch up story wise a little.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: 9_6 on February 21, 2015, 05:29:53 am
Maytag would fit because eventually she has to wonder where the heck bern is like.
It's been how long now, a week since she was put in there?
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: PriorKnowledge on February 21, 2015, 06:00:12 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Although this story line is dragging with little action, I want to see the conclusion, which I hope is soon.

I want to tell you that the story line itself is fantastic. Putting those choices to a moral person and the warden's explanation as to why she should have been allowed to choose Option A was very clever. However, this story line required a great deal of dialog with very little action and would have been much better as a short story in a magazine rather than a comic. Of course, had you done that, I would not have seen it and my life would have been a little poorer.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: mittfh on February 21, 2015, 06:26:24 am
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

Yes, I know we're in the middle of Bern's arc, but we've just had 60 pages worth of her in the Colosseum - besides which, taking a break from her gives Brion plenty of time to visualise the fight (where I suspect her determination coupled with the properties of both blades being weilded simultaneously won't make it the walkover almost everyone at the Colosseum's expecting).

Given the sequencing of the last five chapters: Crest (30), Bern (30), May (60), Crest (30) and Bern (60); ideally, we'd have a 30 page Maytag chapter followed by a 60 page Crest chapter then finishing round three with 30 page chapters from Bern then May to keep equal amounts of time on each arc (120 pages each, with each cycle having a 60 page chapter and two 30 page chapters).
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: raec on February 21, 2015, 06:30:40 am
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

There maybe a lot of votes for the Bern arc right now but there is something to be said about taking everything in good time. My vote is for you to continue on the story and pacing you have in your head, the readers may want everything to end before starting on another but there might be some sort of interaction you are building towards.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: CapnBlaze on February 21, 2015, 06:46:41 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I would like to finish one arc before going to another. Not a big fan of overlong cliff hangers.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: archiesholland on February 21, 2015, 06:48:53 am
2. Bernadette
2. Bernadette
2. Bernadette
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Batteri on February 21, 2015, 08:15:17 am
I feel like the Bernadette arc has been dragging way too long already and actually yelled out "NOO!" when I saw the "Intermission" today. Despite that, I think you should do as you were planning on from the beginning and go with Maytag. Might want to change the pacing a bit though.

For clarity: 1. Maytag
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Zuul on February 21, 2015, 08:39:25 am
Kill them, Bernadette in the Colosseum, and free Maytag!  :-*

So i'm voting for both...  ;D
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: LazarWolf on February 21, 2015, 09:23:51 am
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kimau on February 21, 2015, 10:58:58 am
2. Bernadette
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Seilican on February 21, 2015, 11:35:54 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

signed up on forums just to vote

Thanks for the awesome comic keep up the good work
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: pachel on February 21, 2015, 12:22:05 pm
I vote for Crest storyarc.

As much as I want to see what happens in the Bernadette storyarc, I think leaving it for now and coming back to it is good storytelling. As a previous poster mentioned Bernadette's arc and Maytag's arc are both at critical moments and Crest's needs to catch up a little bit. Besides, somehow I get the feeling that Crest's comeback as a character is going to start tying things together somehow. For the pacing of the story I think that would be the best way to go.

And for everyone complaining about all the dialogue in the last chapter, I think it was all justified and set everything up really well. I really like Bernadette as a character but it is interesting that I've been finding myself viewing her behavior in the Colosseum as frustrating and weak, even though it's true to who she is. I'm dying to see what she does in this fight, but all in good time.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: MarkVonShief on February 21, 2015, 12:50:31 pm

Keep the order - Maytag
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: ImFromNASA on February 21, 2015, 01:55:19 pm
This is so hard!!! I want to see Bernadette kick some ass, but I also want to know about the Dark Cell. Ughghahgghaghg.

I choose:

1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: greenglowinggoo on February 21, 2015, 02:11:00 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Hey, umm why not just make an actual poll, instead of having people put their answers in the forum?  It'd make it easier for you to see the answers, cause lots of people aren't even following the format.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: monimoni on February 21, 2015, 02:27:01 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I dont think now is the time to change to another arc, since not much actually happened in this one. Like somebody said, this could work well in paper format, but in the online medium we have to wait a LOT to get to the point of the whole ordeal. Makes you stop caring about the story.
You built up a lot of anticipation (the "auction" scene ughh, and where Warden is telling us how Bernadette is weak and is gonna die), and when it's finally time to satisfy that anticipation you switch to another character??!!! Honestly after so much talking I was expecting something to happen in the the last 2 pages, but then more talking about how Bernadette is too weak to survive, and then nothing for another I don't know how many weeks...
I'm not saying to get another 60 pages of Bernadette but just a couple more would be nice to get to the point of the whole thing. By the time the next storyline is done I will have forgotten about Bern.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: MarSper on February 21, 2015, 02:27:43 pm
 My vote is:
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
 
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: thepotato on February 21, 2015, 02:42:09 pm
Registered just to vote - big fan for years!  Anyway, I know this vote will hardly count amid the flood of Bernadette votes, but I had to try:

3. Crest + Suspiria

It pains me to see Crest being the invisible demoted protagonist - he needs some time to shine!!  Plus I really wanna know what's up with Suspiria!

Keep at it Brion!  :-*
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Ryuu on February 21, 2015, 05:11:23 pm
my preferences are 3 and then 2 in that order. i really want to see where Bern's arc is going,but a part of that is the cliffhanger speaking. and i really like the crest/suspira pairing (pretty sure i said that before), sop would love to see more development to it.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: sirgarberto on February 21, 2015, 06:34:41 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kanazaka on February 21, 2015, 08:39:28 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

Like some of the others, I am disappointed in how slowly Bernadette's current arc is progressing.  I can understand suspense, but this gives me the impression that you're afraid of putting Bern in danger (understandable, but I'd like to see some kind/any kind of action).  I choose Maytag over Crest because I feel that she is the stronger character and the one with the clearest focus--beat the Dark Cell and win treasure, so she can host her own show and become famous.  It's selfish, but she knows that.  At least she's confident in who she is.  Crest seems unsure of his ability to win back Suspiria, even though he's determined to try.  Bernadette is unsure of her ability to survive in the Colosseum, despite Polly's faith in her.  Maytag is comparatively free of such doubts, as she tends to act impulsively according to her self-interest.  Therefore, I think that her story should move at a faster pace and in a clearer direction.  However, I wouldn't mind if you throw a few curveballs her way  ;D.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: ThatGuy on February 21, 2015, 09:47:28 pm
I really enjoy all the arcs for different reasons - nice work!

My vote is for Maytag's arc.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Sorinreed on February 21, 2015, 09:53:06 pm
have to go with  Bernadette (Colosseum Story arc)

i need to see some action its been a while :P    Too far invested.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: ParsecStrider on February 21, 2015, 09:55:02 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I'm hoping she surprises some killers trying to get her.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: FSS on February 21, 2015, 11:51:02 pm
2. Bernadette
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: casianh on February 22, 2015, 12:48:54 am
Although I've already voted, I wanted to add a thought on the whole cliffhanger thing. Cliffhangers work very well in certain formats. For example, in a book, one chapter ending in a cliffhanger that may not be resolved for another couple chapters or in a tv show where the cliffhanger is resolved in the next episode. However, leaving people hanging in a web comic format, when you're covering an entirely different chapter ends up killing the tension built up by the cliffhanger. That's the whole point of the device, after all, to build tension. Were this all already published and one could read through the whole next chapter before then being able to read the next Bern chapter, the tension would still be fresh, but because these are updated one page at a time, you can't actually hold the tension for an entire different chapter.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: evrfreez on February 22, 2015, 01:59:00 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Really. What did you think would happen? You put it on a cliffhanger.

Like many others, I registered JUST to vote this. Honestly, bringing things up to this point and pausing on an intermission.. after dragging I don't know how many pages of jailor chick being a bitch and spiky-hair girl sweating and Bernadette being emo, and we're finally coming to a resolution, and suddenly intermission -.-

Feels a bit like a slap in the face, but not near as much as if we switched over to another story arc.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: dekutree64 on February 22, 2015, 02:26:00 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Terrible place for a break in the action. The chapter should have ended back when Bernadette was crying in her cell. That way, when returning to this storyline, there'd be a little buildup to get us back emotionally invested in it. As it is, we'd get back, there'd be fighting, and we'd have to go review this last section to remember why we should care. Really, even having an intermission/chapter break here is bad for the flow. After all that dramatic buildup, it would have been so satisfying to get right on with it.

That said, I do still want to see more Dark Cell. We're just too deep into this fight day to back out. Unless maybe if you want to rearrange the page order for posterity's sake, relocating these past several pages to the start of the next Bernadette chapter. That might actually be the best solution in the long run, preserving the usual cycle between characters, and eliminating this bad chapter end point.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: missingLEGACY on February 22, 2015, 09:29:42 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: karnos149 on February 22, 2015, 11:45:30 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Gotta know what happens next.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kauphy on February 22, 2015, 03:06:34 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: snowstreak on February 22, 2015, 03:09:07 pm
Figured Bern would get the most, it is the newest and freshest in our minds, I mean it has been I am guesstimating at least 6 months since we last saw Maytag.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Arien Anwaman on February 22, 2015, 05:03:35 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

I love May and I want her to beat the cell.
Title: Vote
Post by: UncleScary on February 22, 2015, 05:19:01 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyline)  Really want to see the 3-on-1 fight!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: FoodKiller on February 22, 2015, 09:14:29 pm
2. Bernadette. I was looking forward to that fight scene!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: SxL on February 22, 2015, 09:17:11 pm
Ok, having read what the replies were, I felt I should actually register and weigh in. I've certainly been reading a long time, but I can't tell for sure how long... less than 9 years anyway, more than 5 :p

Purely on the vote, I would be happy with either Bernadette or Maytag.

Why?

B - Well, as people said, it is a cliffhanger, and I do find it engaging. In fact, I want to counter everyone else's pacing issues a bit, because I felt the lots of going back and forth WAS interesting and important. It might have been able to lose the odd panel here and there, but it wouldn't have felt the same if it was all compressed up in a couple pages.

M - feels like it could be interesting character development, plus I've enjoyed various aspects of that arc a lot.

Why not C? Well, Crest has faded in and out as a character for me. There are times where him and S are really interesting, and times where I'm a bit bored or lost on parts of their arcs, only to come back pages later. So I want the other two a lot more.

I realise this was probably an attempt to cast out for reassurance, but, that in part is why I bothered to register (on holiday, no less!) because I think you deserve that. The pacing wanders sometimes, sure, but that happens to most people. I don't actually care as much about the fighting pages, I like dialogue with my action, so I'm not waiting for that one as such. Anyway, I also figured it was to gage interest in things a bit, which is why I reasoned for my not-choices as well.

I hope motivation isn't too much of a problem like some wondered, because I do want to see where its going! It felt like from time to time you've really picked up for a bit and then dropped back, which is probably also normal, but the good times are good! And the bad times don't seem that bad from this side. Looking forward to whatever you choose, and congrats on all the years (15, is it?) you've been working on the story so far!

Oh yeah, and if people leave cliff-hangers at the end of *books* which don't get published for years (Or, if you're George R.R. Martin, possibly higher multiples of numbers) you can leave them at the end of webcomics. :-*
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kaji on February 22, 2015, 09:35:47 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Eversist on February 22, 2015, 11:42:08 pm
People seem to be going with 2., but my vote is

1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Emerelle on February 22, 2015, 11:46:03 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I like Maytag more but I NEED to know where that goes for Bernadette... and Polly of course. *giggle* (Captcha made registration very hard for me, hope it was worth it!)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: XannMagus on February 23, 2015, 03:48:13 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: HornDemonFarm on February 23, 2015, 04:57:52 am
3. Crest
It bugs me that almost all the important characters are women, not that I have something against them, just... why? ??? This makes it look like 90% of population are women or that women are incredibly stronger in both swordsmanship and magic (that is, the thin man is a magic demigod who could rule the Earth if he wished to, but he is an exception), so I like Crest.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: SirKronos on February 23, 2015, 05:13:38 am
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

While I do want to see Crest again, and am super thrilled with Bernie's part of story, I am really more curious about Maytag's struggle with the Dark Cell and the Thin Man's denizens, such as Lucrecia (I spelled it right did I?).

Also, I want a bit more light to the Thin Man schemes.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Fyrebaugh@gmail.com on February 23, 2015, 05:37:11 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Lets close this story up before we move to something else!  Plus we just got to the fight scene!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: mghands on February 23, 2015, 05:44:38 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: AnonTheMouse on February 23, 2015, 05:52:43 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I realized that my last post may not have been in the correct format, so allow me to make an actual vote, to be sure it will be counted.

In my opinion, Bernadette's is the only story that still resembles its original form. Brion, you put on a hell of a comic, but stop trying to be M. Night Shyamalan. Some really unnecessary plot twists have put me off from a lot of the comic, and (as might have come across in my original "vote") made me hate Maytag as a character, if not as a person, altogether.

You thought May was a spunky nympho jester with an adorably shy streak out of costume?
Nope! She's an emotionally stunted (possibly aspergers-suffering) master manipulator with such great acting ability that even the guy who's whole thing is seeing people's faults couldn't tell. Or maybe not, because those don't sound like positive traits, so she totally does have feelings even though even she just said she didn't and there was a flashback to show it and everything!

You thought that this was a fantasy story, with swords and sorcery...maybe even monsters?
Too bad! Have some nanobots!

You thought that Suspiria had a tragic backstory and was getting just revenge?
Nope! She's a delusional lunatic, and she didn't even actually manage to kill the person she was out to get revenge on!

Meanwhile, Bernadette has accomplished her goal of finding her father. Her actions were in accordance with her nature to help her father. She's shown that she continues to be an ethical and moral person in the face of adversity...flawed, human, but principled. All the people around her that ought to care still show every sign of caring, and the people we aren't supposed to like are being horrible. No sudden genre shifts (or rather, unaffected by the sudden genre shift), and no one has suddenly had the entire nature, personality, and motivations of their character turned on its head.

In other words...it's the one story arc still untainted. As long as Brion doesn't decide to needlessly complicate things for the sake of fake added "drama", I still hold out for the Bern arc ending as strong as it started. Past shifts in tone have made me leery of Crest's arc, but it's mostly because of what's happened to Suspiria. I wouldn't mind seeing where Crest's story goes, I just don't have as much trust in how it will turn out, when it already seems to be setting up for another shitty plot twist roller coaster. Then there's Maytag... She used to be my favourite character, and now I hate her. One of my closest friends who started reading the same time as I did stopped because of her sudden transformation into, as he put it, "the textbook definition of a psychopath"...and honestly, he wasn't wrong. If Maytag were a real person, everything we know about her would make a strong case Cleckleyan psychopathy. I mean no disrespect for the author, but I would just as soon if the story never returned to her. If she and the nanobots were just written out and made noncanon, like Zeist from the lore of Highlander.

Actually, I take back what I said about no more Shyamalan plot twists. The best thing that could happen to this comic is a Shyamalan plot twist. Let's put them all back in the castle, and just say the last few chapters have been more illusions and drug-induced dreams. Maytag isn't really a psychopath. Suspiria isn't really a delusional, murderous hell-beast. The comic isn't really a super-post-apocalyptic sci-fi story. It was all just a trick. Can we do that?

Yes, I could say all this in the Brion Makes Excuses For Why Your Criticism Is Invalid thread, but I feel like the reasoning behind my vote needs to be understood, beyond just "They must like action", or "They like Bern more". The fact is, Bern's not even my favourite character. Crest is. However, at this point, the whole comic seems to have devolved to where it becomes not a choice of what I'd like most, but what I'd dislike the least.

tl;dr: Don't go back to the other characters until your ready to fix the problems with their arcs.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Azure Priest on February 23, 2015, 06:26:43 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Yes. This arc needs finishing before moving on to the others. The cusp of a major fight scene is a HORRIBLE place to suddenly jump to another story arc. Besides, the other arcs need a bit more thinking.

Maytag: Agreeing to work with The Thin Man at all was a bad idea. She knows what happened to Mary, and she knows that is most certainly NOT something Mary wanted. The fact that she was kidnapped into a meeting with The Thin Man in the first place, and was refused the option and ability of leaving would convince anyone that this guy is NOT trustworthy.

Crest: We know Q'talda loves to play mind games, and sacrificed the Conclave to save herself (not to mention she was calling for Suspira's death before Suspira even arrived). We know Suspira is not COMPLETELY delusional because the bullies she retaliated against DID BULLY HER IN FRONT OF CREST, and were planning some more mayhem (thinking Suspira wasn't even around) when Suspira came out of the wall and did... Something to them. Furthermore, the way she is now... THAT was done to her by either Melter, The Thin Man or both, and she sure as heck didn't agree to it because she was unconscious as a result of The Thin Man's thugs back at the Castle/ Inn. Furthermore, the credibility of Suspira's "parents" is still in question. Q'talda has the ability to loose flesh-eating bacteria on you that leaves no evidence behind. Any random man and woman could have been "convinced" to play the role. Since Crest has, most likely, never been to Suspira's home town, there's no way teleporting him "there" would be sufficient, as "there" could be some OTHER town that Q'talda only SAYS is Suspira's home town. Q'talda's story has too many holes in it. PERIOD. At least, Crest meeting with Suspira again would allow him to tell her that Q'talda survived her attempt. In any event, Suspira, powerful as she is, WILL need help fighting The Thin Man.

So while #2 is the best choice right now, I wouldn't mind seeing #3.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Sverre on February 23, 2015, 08:32:17 am
Hey guys,

What if this whole vote thing is the cliffhanger and we are just going to go back to Bern anyways, after we have all had this little freak out session? Or may it is a test?
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Shazam on February 23, 2015, 08:52:05 am
As an aside, nice seeing how many readers the poll has gotten to post, regardless of the votes :)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Seikojin on February 23, 2015, 09:20:00 am
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

I, like many others, want the Colusseum arc done, however it will get done, in a different chapter.  Given the path everything else up to now has taken, I think going to Crest would be fitting for this book.  And I think come print time, it would be better flow to have it go to Crest, Maytag, then back to Bern.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: TxExSpeedy on February 23, 2015, 09:21:49 am
Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc) Let s see some action. Who really cares about Crest. Maytag's the best but there's no action right now.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Alise_Sor on February 23, 2015, 09:37:20 am
So you could do any of them depending on what you want to do with the series.

You could continue the Bernadette in the Colosseum which would mean you aren't going to cliffhanger us constantly (or we'd hope so or rather not now) which is what a lot of mangas do.

You could go back to Maytag with the Dark Room which would still leave suspense with Bernadette but would also relieve the suspense of Maytag; this, I would consider, would be the most balance between lurching us into suspenseful cliffhangers and satisfying said cliffhangers.

Or you could go back to Crest and Suspiria... This would leave the two (what I consider to be the) largest cliffhangers unsolved and be the most 'evil.' This would be what a lot of other mangas do to drive their readers nuts because they want to know what's going on with the 'main' characters more than a side plot. Even if the side plot is interesting and can join the others, the cliffhangers you've left with the other two, especially Bernadette, are way more alluring and suspenseful to the readers.

So, you'll probably get a lot, if not all the votes for Bernadette, second most I predict being Maytag and lastly would be Crest. The list is based on suspense of the cliffhanger last seen for each character.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: EllieNeo on February 23, 2015, 09:50:59 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
can't leave it hanging for that long. that would be torture.

p.s. i, like several others, am one of the long time readers of this comic that just registered in the forum today for the sake of voting.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Kaevik on February 23, 2015, 10:41:50 am
2. Bernadette(Colosseum Storyarc)

I so wont to See Berd shock everyone those assfaces!
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Brion Foulke on February 23, 2015, 11:55:29 am
The totals so far (as of this post:)

Crest: 20
Maytag: 21
Bernadette: 65

Not surprising at all, but still it's interesting to see who everyone is voting for and their reasons.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Thannis on February 23, 2015, 12:39:01 pm
Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: DoriSai on February 23, 2015, 02:26:32 pm
Pretty sure Bern is gonna win but I'm still going to cast my vote for Crest because I like him and I'd like to see how he grows and develops.
Vote: 3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Blackthorn on February 23, 2015, 03:11:42 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

Yeah, I know Bernadette's going to win the vote, but...I really want to know what happens with Dark Cell.  Sure, Bernadette ended on a cliffhanger, but while I want to see the fight, I have no idea what direction Brion is going with Dark Cell and I'm tired of waiting to find out ;-)
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: StarTomb on February 23, 2015, 03:30:52 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)

We haven't seen enough Maytag lately! Although Bernadette's cliffhanger has me tugging my beard out.
Title: Re: Intermission 30: Special Voting Thread!
Post by: Oddball on February 23, 2015, 03:39:03 pm
Go for Bern, want to see her let go and take them on for a change instead of being on the defensive.
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Post by: udib on February 23, 2015, 03:58:09 pm
Bernadette
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Post by: raphman50 on February 23, 2015, 05:06:02 pm
2. Bernadette

If you please.
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Post by: a_sticky_situation on February 23, 2015, 05:18:33 pm
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
Although I love Bernadette, and the cliffhanger is tense, Maytag is a great character and I'm curious to see how she'll get out of her predicament. Also, to be honest, this Bernadette story arc hasn't been all that interesting for me.

Thanks for making this comic, by the way. It is probably the highest production quality webcomic that I read, and I read a lot of webcomics.
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Post by: Cheshyr1 on February 23, 2015, 09:00:43 pm
2.) Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
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Post by: TwistedAkai on February 23, 2015, 11:21:24 pm
My vote has to go for who's the furthest behind. Somewhere down the road they all need to meet again. Have they all kept up, chronologically?

If they're all still lined up in time, then I would have to vote for Maytag.

This isn't out of any specific interest in her, though. I find all three arcs to be interesting, and I'm pretty sure there's a special section in hell for cliffhangers like this one (sorry Brian!). I do, however, have an idea of how hard it can be to plan a story out and, with no indication of how far ahead this is planned, I would have to say that keeping the status quo would probably be best suited to avoiding having to play catch up.

As an added bonus, by holding out on the fight a little longer (as much as it hurts) we can know we're going to get more story when we come back to Bern later on.

As a side option: All three! It might be interesting to see how Brian would handle a chapter split across multiple arcs.
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Post by: TomeWyrm on February 23, 2015, 11:32:44 pm
We're in the tail of the buildup to the climax of the current arc (of which the Colosseum is but a sub-arc) and that strikes me as a very poor choice for the location of a cliffhanger.

Actually, it's a pretty good place.  A poor choice for a cliffhanger would be when a storyline has wrapped up.  Anyplace that "leaves you hanging" is by definition a good place for a cliffhanger.  Not that I mind if people would rather see Bernadette's story continue.
It is by definition a cliffhanger, but I've never been a fan of "lurch" cliffhangers. The literal cliff hanger? Those are fine because something just happened and you're anxious to see the outcome. Generally after wrapping something up, like a chase sequence or otherwise attention grabbing.
What happened here is like the getaway vehicle being spotted by the cops and freezing on the foot an inch from the gas pedal.

What I'm getting at is that it's less of an enjoyable cliff to be hanging from. Right after the bargaining would have been great, right after the fight probably will be as well. When we've wrapped up something but still have unresolved story threads to leave us wondering what will happen in the next arc that deals with these characters.

I'm interested in what is going to happen next to Maytag because we stopped at a lull in the "action" where the next actions are both obvious in direction and mysterious in scope and execution. Here it's more "there's going to be a fight". While that is fun to watch, it just strikes me as a sub-optimal place to put a cliff to be hanging from when A) The previous plot line was a bit over-extended seeming and B) there were "better" places to stop the story.

Obviously it's a matter of personal opinion, I'm just trying to help you understand why I have the opinion I do :-)
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Post by: DarthHacker on February 24, 2015, 12:25:28 am
Bern!  After all that talk of who will be the sex slave, and what option is worse (got old after a week), things are finally starting to get interesting again. 

In my opinion, the cliffhanger can be in the middle of the fight, but not here.  We were patient too long and should at least see a short bit of the fight scene before Maytag gets her turn again.
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Post by: Soul Hook on February 24, 2015, 01:42:42 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
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Post by: Whizad on February 24, 2015, 06:38:05 am
Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
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Post by: bulmabriefs144 on February 24, 2015, 06:49:36 am
I'm actually more interested in Crest.

Maytag with likely get through her fear, possibly offscreen, only explaining in flashback how she did it. I don't see her as being a "dedication" type, but I do see her as having a great deal of drive for the short haul. That said, she might just say "#*%$ it" to an effort that is getting her nowhere, ask for her dimension bag back and leave. May would probably be my first choice, though, I'm just picking Crest to have a change of pace.

Based on what we know of Bernadette, based on what I know of the reality of this world as explained by Thin Man, I have a good theory of what happens next (now that I say this, our creator will likely try to Joss said theory). We know that the world isn't actually as it seems, that monsters called Qualia maintain the illusion called magic. We know that these swords are somehow toxic to magic, but if magic doesn't exist, this means that antimagic is not actually a type of magic (as in the sword is not "enchanted" with magic destruction, so the original assessment of it being a sort of "hypocrisy" might be off), but rather an energy (the swords might operate on a sort of EMP burst that shocks Qualia) or substance that allows the user to see the world or touch the world of the Qualia, possibly slashing them in midair or something.

Now, Bernadette could try hard to be something she's not, overcoming the "coddling" as the warden says. But I don't think she's gonna fight in the conventional sense anyway. And I think she is fine as is, actually at an advantage because she feels guilty and depressed.

Let me explain. Remember how with one sword, she was unable to block magic? It was because she was actively trying to survive. She was also because of that seeing the world as a world of magic. That is, she was actively playing by the rules of such a world. On the other hand, here, her feelings are raw and honest, and rather than a survival instinct, she will fight exactly according to her style. That is, she is in the right mindset to attack something besides conventional enemies. Which brings us to Bern's character.

Bern has a direct, functional style of sword fighting, more suitable for slashing objects or killing monsters, than cutting at humans. It is the same style she should be using to view the world, as something that is just a smoke and mirrors to be cut apart, revealing the truth. Normally, her survival instinct would kick in, as I say, and she'd be like "I've gotta survive against the magic/weapons etc." Instead, she is like "I don't care." Because or this, she can actually unconsciously transcend the "magic" of the Qualia and start to notice things don't add up.

Now, on the other hand, we have the three thugs she's against. As the warden said, these three have probably had this very drive to survive. Where has this led them? Well, naturally, they learned any techniques they could to win. That is, cheap tricks. Their power is based on magic, on smoke and mirrors, on appearing to have an edge. For most people, yes, the warden would be right, and she would lose. But she is wielding the exact best weapon against such things. The truth. The first one True Strike, is probably rather strong, but it looked like his sword in the last comic was possibly either getting his own magic boost (something like a Bless Self spell) or was itself a magic sword. Low Blow sounds like his fighting style is like Maytag's, using magic weapons and tools to quickly get the drop on people. And the Blue Fire sounds like a straight up mage.

In all likelihood, how this would go down, assuming she figures out how to properly use the swords? An embarrassing curb stomp battle, possible ending with all opponents completely disarmed and Bern walking away without having spilled a drop of blood.

Yea... as satisfying as that scene might be, that was alot of buildup for what might be little actual fighting.

In a side note, that was almost more padding and filler than the Naruto anime series.   
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Post by: DropDeadPoet on February 24, 2015, 06:54:13 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I wanna know what happens with Maytag as well, but I think it would be weird to go to another character then come back to the fight scene. It's just better to at least begin the battle before moving on to a more psychological conflict like in Dark Cell or Crest's arc.
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Post by: s parker on February 24, 2015, 06:56:26 am
1. Maytag (Dark Cell Storyarc)
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Post by: AnonTheMouse on February 24, 2015, 07:13:12 am
Not surprising at all, but still it's interesting to see who everyone is voting for and their reasons.

Hey, I just want to say, that I feel I owe you a bit of an apology. It was my intention to be "brutally honest", not outright cruel. I think I failed in that regard. Both of the times I tried to put down how I've been feeling about the comic, now, I've gotten overly worked up about it, and ended up being a lot more harsh than was warranted. I'm not going to say that I didn't mean those things I said, because that would be dishonest, when they were a raw and unfiltered example of my emotions. However, I will say that I don't think you deserved to have those feelings expressed to you in quite that way. While I disagree with some of your storytelling, you've created an engaging setting and striking visuals that have kept me interested over any other faults I may perceive. I certainly wouldn't feel so strongly about these characters and what's going on with them if you didn't manage to build them in a way that I could connect to on some level. So, now that I've had time to cool down and approach this more level-headedly, I just wanted to say that, whatever else I may say, you do have my respect, and thank you for Flipside.
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Post by: KotShep on February 24, 2015, 12:16:55 pm
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

I really want to know what happens in the other story lines but I miss Crest and need some closure.
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Post by: jamoecw on February 24, 2015, 06:25:24 pm
i guess it all depends on what is coming.  if bern is going to win easily due to her swords, without any real character development or growth, then someone else (i'm used to cliffhangers, and it isn't like things aren't waiting to progress in the other story lines).  may is in a similar boat, but there is the whole nature of magic thing (and thus we learn more about the world), which makes it more appealing.  crest seems to be at a cross roads, and thus may be the more interesting person to watch, but he might not really be at a crossroads, so he might be the most boring to watch.  watching 20 days of polly being a sex slave doesn't seem to be the comics style, and if it was interesting then it would be a whole story thread of it's own (far more adult than the rest of the comic to boot).  while i'd love to see porn with a quality story line and the level of out of the box thinking that the twilight zone had, i just don't think the world is ready for such.

so in short i'd say - whatever you think it should be.
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Post by: Blue Dragon on February 24, 2015, 07:42:30 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

Because I've been sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens!

My next option would be Crest, because we don't see much of him and I liked Suspira. :)

Not that I don't like Maytag, but I'm ready for Bern, Crest, then her :D

Just my vote ;)
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Post by: Kiran on February 25, 2015, 01:19:32 am
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

This choice shouldn't be surprising cause the actual chapter while getting heavy into the psychological state of the characters during the conversations doesn't deliver actually any kind of fights when the actual special swords would be used, I have to admit that when I was hyped for Bern fights in the colosseum, I wanted to see her fight random opponents and use different tactic and grow up as a knight and warrior in her new style to defeat them and also to adjust, or team up with Polly against stronger opponents, that is what I'm lacking the most, would you guys like "Gladiator" movie if all it had was just talk without arena fights?
I wouldn't.

And I hate cliffangers like that when the chapter goes down and down with the negativity I fell for the characters used, I really got disappointed in how Bern acted and that she allowed once again for Polly to take the bullet meant for her, I know love is a strange thing, but again if Bern really loved May so much she would never choose option 1 to cheat on her morally wise(but like we see from May past chapter she was willing to do the same to see Bern so maybe that's why author used such plot point) and if Bern was so morally pure like Polly seems to think, then Bern would never throw Polly under the bus for her own personal gain of having a possibility to fight to see May further; where you don't see any light and the plot gets just more heavier with each page, I simply want to see some light for Bern out of that situation.

And I want to see anger, really it's a shame that Bern doesn't know that all of this was just arranged, that no matter what option she would choose, she would be set up for a match to get killed, I just want to see her waking up and finally trying to fight for her own survival, what Warden said that option 1 would harden Bern, well I don't think so it would work like that, it would make her more depressed and emotionally wrecked seeing who Bern is, and Warden should know that not everyone reacts the same way. I'm quite curious to see how this will go, for me there's no way she can win this fight staying morally good with her own set of rules, she should really grow up and see that the world is ugly place and she needs to react in proper way for it, for all people, not only for monsters or people who want to hurt her close ones.

Polly screaming the things she learned from Warden and also begging Bern that her own sacrifice would not go to waste might be the way to shake Bern here. Or maybe the father will try to react...
The thing is that as we see the male warrior is stronger than Bern, the woman I would say is faster, and the older guy is for sure more experienced in battle and tactics used, if three of them would work together Bern has zero chance, her only chance is to eliminate them one vs one, before they would learn what hit them.

And big plea for the author if you will ever make Crest chapter, please make him experience at least half of shitty things May and Bern get all the time, and make his choices have some negative consequences for him too(because I'm really find it unfair that Bern for saving her father gets such plot and Crest for saving his mother gets magical sword, beats thugs right and left and gets fangirls), and also put him in some very uncomfortable fanservice situation like May and also Bern were put already, I just want to see some equality in treatment of main characters and that even if he is a guy he too can get similiar treatment as female characters get ;D
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Post by: Zarno on February 25, 2015, 02:56:00 pm
Bernadette
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Post by: mnmrn on February 25, 2015, 02:58:54 pm
Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)
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Post by: Smiles on February 25, 2015, 06:50:19 pm
2. Bernadette (Colosseum Storyarc)

I registered just to vote. I've been following Flipside for years, and the Colosseum arc is one of my favorites. Please continue it! I would love to see the Maytag/Dark Cell arc afterwards, as that's also a very compelling storyline. :)

I second that motion if it has not been seconded before. it does seem to be the majority vote though I notice.
I wanna see the fight now after all that's happened. there is going to be so much amazing stuff with maytag now it might kinda make the whole coliseum thing seem kinda like meh. I dont want that to happen. I want to feel the amazement you've been building up till now... be a bit awestruck maybe. then put the next chapter with May since we all want to know how far she's gotten or not gotten while bern's been in madtown coliseumville...lol. and I'm intrigued about where  the crest line is going also so I think it will be a nice change of pace to follow back up with him after all that. but the fight is really what needs to be seen now I think. So much has become so serious so quickly. I guess if you think we need some comic relief then go with Maytag cuz while her's is serious she's always got a humor along side it all to keep us laughing. my vote is still To finish with bern for now though.
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Post by: wam9000 on February 25, 2015, 08:41:42 pm
2 Please! I can't wait to see the fight!  @.@
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Post by: Caffinator on February 26, 2015, 04:30:31 am
3. Crest (Suspiria Storyarc)

To me, it's pretty obvious how the fight is going to go. While I'm eager to see Bern swallow all of her self-doubt and pity and start kicking some arse, I'm actually more curious of what's going to happen with Crest and Suspira. I thought they made a cute couple before she was transformed and I hope things work out so that they can be together again.
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Post by: Keneto on February 26, 2015, 08:06:34 am
Maytag.

Ppl! the world might not even exist! She might get to the end of Dark Cell and find out they're all living in the Matrix and Keannu Reeves is there complete with his fully rounded acting range and Suspiria is just an Agent.

Sorry, but the Bern storyline has trapped itself. Since death is the result of failure, success is pretty much the only option.

Let's move on to solve the riddle of Thin Man and that creepy Marcie person / it.
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Post by: Pinkk on February 26, 2015, 11:47:06 am
TWO!  That popped up and I wasn't registered yet, I was all, NUUUUUUU!  Have to see how it goes!  Can jump to Maytag after!
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Post by: Brion Foulke on February 26, 2015, 10:26:52 pm
Okay, voting is officially closed now.  The final tally is:

Crest: 23
Maytag: 28
Bernadette: 79

No surprise, the winner is Bernadette!  So the next chapter will continue her fight.  Thanks everyone for voting!
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Post by: Shazam on February 27, 2015, 07:13:48 am
Thanks for inviting us to :) Was nice seeing the varied views.
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Post by: Pinkk on February 27, 2015, 09:15:04 pm
Whoot!