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Title: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on March 23, 2011, 02:06:22 pm
This is the thread for discussing chapter 29, "Connected by Rings."
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on March 23, 2011, 02:19:49 pm
It's of to a great start! Nothing could possibly go wrong... ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on March 24, 2011, 08:48:02 pm
Is it wrong that I am hoping that Bernedette and Maytag break up? Or at least get in a fight? Not to piss off others that ship them, but I don't.  :-\
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on March 25, 2011, 02:37:26 am
I would.

I'm a bit disappointed seeing that Bern have gone alone, I kinda hoped maybe Vennice would sign for the trip with her, but maybe it's too personal and only May would have right to be with Bern on such occasion ;)

May resolve seems strong so I don't see her cheating on Bern anymore, but who knows what may happen during the contest, seeing all these new people and performers might tempt May a bit too much where just a masturbation won't suffice and there won't be Bern to help her like last time.
Bern cheating on May willingly without using foul magic I think is not possible, maybe if that black haired mercenary lady who was Bern first love would show up then maybe Bern would be given some temptation, and who knows maybe would fall for it in proper circumstances.

I still wonder if this Bern father news is real info or not a way to split them up doing by that Thin Man boy protege.
Capture Bern to get May?
Well it could work.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on March 25, 2011, 03:41:24 am
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I still wonder if this Bern father news is real info or not a way to split them up doing by that Thin Man boy protege.

Then again, an entertainer talent show is just as good a trap. And even if it isn't, May doesn't quite realizes that having a wide broadcast is the ideal way to get spotted and captured by Melder. Bernadette's horseback departure basically means two things:
1) Maytag's doomed
2) Crest will have to protect her.

Well. Actually, the way things seem to be going, he'll most likely have to protect Suspiria once she'll have some problems/have expended all her spiritual essence.. But yeah, things will probably get pretty rough, pretty quick...


By the way, the narration works quite nicely, combined with flashbacks and all. It's not overpresent -some danger that always looms- and overall, it's nice. Because quite frankly, if maytag and bernadette discussing about this matter was done in front of us, it'd probably have taken half a chapter.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on March 25, 2011, 08:57:39 am
... I don't like the idea of them breaking up at all, but this separation could be very good for the story. As we've seen them, they're almost always together, or not too far apart. How will they do on their own? What's Maytag going to do about her... needs? Temptation is strong...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on March 26, 2011, 07:00:49 am
It's not as if they will be completely separated after all. Look at the chapter's title. Then look at chapter 26, page 23.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on March 28, 2011, 05:48:58 am
Not a Bern+May shipper, but this last page was SO SWEET!  :-*
I am just a sucker for gay marriage references, I guess.  :D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ryuu on March 28, 2011, 10:29:24 am
i find it hard to believe that one such as bernadette, who dosen't trust magic would have accepted the ring idea so easily without exploring all other alternatives first, it just seems a lil ooc to me.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on March 28, 2011, 12:56:29 pm
@Ryuu
well we don't know that she didn't yet.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ryuu on March 28, 2011, 01:03:56 pm
no, the way it written makes it quite clear that she didn't, or atleast it seems that way to me
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on March 28, 2011, 01:06:50 pm
I don't doubt it, I just don't like leaping to conclusions.
remember... unless stated as fact... there is always a possibility!
right?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ryuu on March 28, 2011, 01:55:39 pm
thing is, with a comic very little is stated as fact as a character can always be lying, so you have to make assumptions based off character's actions and words combined with authors/artist's writing/drawing style. and i feel that bern, someone who wouldn't even take a portal to save a few days travel would use the rings instead of waiting for may.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on March 28, 2011, 02:48:22 pm
i find it hard to believe that one such as bernadette, who dosen't trust magic would have accepted the ring idea so easily without exploring all other alternatives first, it just seems a lil ooc to me.
You forget, magic just healed Maytag's arm. Bernadette was uncomfortable about the whole arm issue, but you could tell she preferred a whole Maytag to a partial Maytag. If, in the light of those events, Bernadette became a little more open-minded about magic use, I would call it character development rather then out of character, but that's just me.  ;)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on March 28, 2011, 02:56:10 pm
That's a very good point!
More one the recent page- I think those "wedding :-*?" rings are sound stones made to work with each other. That or something we haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Oddball on March 28, 2011, 03:04:47 pm
Holograms?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on March 29, 2011, 06:49:38 am
Well wedding rings can be quite useful, I don't know if in this fantasy setting people marry each other normally and all that which comes with it, but thanks to that both May and Bern can fend people off that they are taken already ;)

And I think that Bern accepted the ring even if it's magical one to a simple reason she will be about to contact with May, both can achieve their goals, and simply it's a nice reminder isn't it, to be connected with May officialy like that by rings.

Bern's not trusting magic mostly cause so far beside Maytag arm fixing, she only had negative encounters with it like we see through comic.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on March 29, 2011, 10:24:55 am
There are numerous examples of Bern caving in and using magic throughout the comic, even in Book 0.  She's gotten a little mellower about it over time, but the portal thing is like a special exception.  That she doesn't like using portals has more to do with them seeming scary to her.  It's one of those irrational fears, kind of like a fear of flying.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on March 29, 2011, 05:51:51 pm
Makes sense. After all, magic items in general are just as far as I understood it distasteful for the knightly types, while portals specifically are said to steal your soul.

Besides, she does carries and tried to use a magic sword while searching for its other part. Swords made by the one that adopted her, and that he wanted the knights to use -which they refused-... And let's not forget that while belonging to the Lashoar knights require to forsake the use of magic, being Maytag's knight has... Other requirements. And even though they are not easy, I see Flipside as a tale of adaptation, of evolution, of compromises and discussion. (And mutilations, but that's besides the point) So, that kind of issues fits the theme the way I, humble recent reader see it.

What intrigues me the most actually, besides when will May be kidnapped, is some little words from Oransong, some chapters ago. I wonder if seeing Bernadette's adoptive father, we will get to finally understand what did he meant by saying the split rose was a children's fighting style.
(And if that's going to be a reason for evening the ground between her and Crest :P )
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on March 29, 2011, 06:01:24 pm
Speaking of which, I miss Crest. He doesn't really do much...
I hope he get's a larger role in this chapter than in the last ones.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on March 29, 2011, 06:19:57 pm
Which makes me think... Giving an emo young hero such a following simply because he is overshadowed like that...
It's genius. Evil genius.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on March 29, 2011, 06:28:45 pm
Now that I've finalized the script, I can tell you... Crest's subplot takes up about 6 pages this chapter.  So it's not a ton, but he gets his share... the developments for his character are gonna be coming slowly, but they are coming, so don't worry.

There's also several new characters being introduced this chapter, one of which is *really* important.

I think you guys are gonna like this chapter, I think the story moves at a nice pace, while still retaining the all-important cinematic feel.  I'm pretty happy with it.  But chapter 30 will probably be the most important chapter in the story so far.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on March 29, 2011, 07:29:58 pm
Is it wrong that I am hoping that Bernedette and Maytag break up? Or at least get in a fight? Not to piss off others that ship them, but I don't.  :-\

While I don't know about breaking up, I'd definitely like seeing them get into a fight, or Maytag give in to temptation and cheat. For me, Maytag's cheating made her a more believable character, and I liked how she wasn't perfect.

Sadly I don't think Vennice will ever get it on with Bern, but I'd definitely love to see how Bernadette reacts if she ever runs into her first love Blackbird someday.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on March 29, 2011, 11:21:22 pm
but I'd definitely love to see how Bernadette reacts if she ever runs into her first love Blackbird someday.
That hapened in book 0. And now that girl is dead.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on March 30, 2011, 12:10:11 am
Now that I've finalized the script, I can tell you... Crest's subplot takes up about 6 pages this chapter.  So it's not a ton, but he gets his share... the developments for his character are gonna be coming slowly, but they are coming, so don't worry.

There's also several new characters being introduced this chapter, one of which is *really* important.

I think you guys are gonna like this chapter, I think the story moves at a nice pace, while still retaining the all-important cinematic feel.  I'm pretty happy with it.  But chapter 30 will probably be the most important chapter in the story so far.
One important one is Bern father I assume?
Or that character is important in an evil sense?
Or that's someone new and she/he will become a part of main cast?

I'm actually hyped to see who is Bern's father for real.
If he left first sword for Bern he knew Bern would follow soon to get the second sword since they don't work without a pair.

Crest getting few pages each chapter for his own development I think is enough.

So in chapter 30 May will meet the Thin Man personally or will be kidnapped again and changed, this actually makes me wonder if you can accept that dark cell and not become a monster, but a being with power without any drawbacks, so far all Thin Man's creations were stronger each time.
And if May has so strong willpower to accept it fully. I wonder if the Thin Man is looking for a secret of evolution or he is just mad scientist, or like it was said he is right and whole Enclave and world is wrong.

but I'd definitely love to see how Bernadette reacts if she ever runs into her first love Blackbird someday.
That hapened in book 0. And now that girl is dead.
She met not her real love but a substitute who in the end was cheating on her with her real love interest :P
Who knows maybe that Blackbird lady too became Thin Man's experiment and Bern will meet her soon?

As for current page, lol soon Bern will turn into a proper magical knight with magical swords, magical rings, and magical portals in the pocket ;)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: zblues on March 30, 2011, 11:01:11 am
Meh, I won't be happy until Maytag realizes she loves Crest and leaves Bern, but that will probably never happen so meh. lol
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on March 30, 2011, 12:24:45 pm
Cute.


Bernadette won't like the portal idea, though.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on March 30, 2011, 05:57:29 pm
Bernadette won't like the portal idea, though.
The way I see it, she wouldn't like it if she was to cross it herself. But she knows better that to impose her beliefs on others. Especially when Maytag is involved. After all, she is already asked a lot (what with the monogamy and all) so I don't think the prospect of her lover joining her via carried portal is as much a problem as May having to remain chaste except for the occasional masturbation.
And she will activate the ringlet just at that kind of moment won't she ?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on March 30, 2011, 07:22:35 pm
but I'd definitely love to see how Bernadette reacts if she ever runs into her first love Blackbird someday.
That hapened in book 0. And now that girl is dead.

I mean Blackbird, who was introduced in Chapter 20 (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=803), not Clairen from Book 0.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on March 31, 2011, 10:57:02 am
I mean Blackbird, who was introduced in Chapter 20 (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=803), not Clairen from Book 0.
O, I confused these two. Sorry.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: FyreFennec on March 31, 2011, 01:41:45 pm
I got really worried when I saw the cover of this chapter but it's actually a really sweet idea.  :-*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on April 01, 2011, 01:32:51 am
I wanna play Jesters VS Zombies.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Andrea on April 01, 2011, 01:53:17 am
Altough very funny, the "iRing" thing with the apps looks totally out of the comic imho. But it's 1 april, so joke taken. You rock Brion ehehe :)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on April 01, 2011, 04:31:38 am
I want a summon naked chick app!  ;D Although 30 gold a minute seems a little steep.  :( But still totally awesome!  :D But expensive!  :( BUT AWESOME!  :D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on April 01, 2011, 05:30:41 am
Of course, considering the price, a fully fledged, purely human hooker is much less costly. But it doesn't have the transportability of the summoned naked chick ! And there is also this revolutionary plus only the iRing can provide.

Sleekness.


Steve Jobbiness aside, I realized a little something. We have the three "named" apps that are pretty self-explanatory, and the second one from the first line is most likely the summon naked chick app. The one to its right remains a mystery...

A clear mystery though. Is that a target ? Or a boob ?  ???
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on April 02, 2011, 07:08:21 pm
Pretty sure it was a boob. 
Now, where do I place a pre-order for this I-Ring thing?   (I hate I-phones with a passion, but THAT sounds interesting.)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on April 04, 2011, 03:28:23 am
Riding a magic horse while doing fantasy phonesex.

That's what I call traveling. And the precisions upon the ways portals work is nice too. Aren't these handy little things ?

Also, the coloring is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on April 04, 2011, 09:48:17 am
Let's just hope Bern won't fall from the horse now :D
And it's actually nice to see Bern telling her own needs that she wants to hear May masturbate, I doubt "few weeks earlier" Bern would admit that...
Still it's a long way till Bern would accept a threesome with another girl ;)
And yup, cover coloring is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on April 06, 2011, 11:58:55 am
Black, short-haired suspiria. Biggest twist ever.

I wonder if that needed a proper haircut or simply some disenchanting.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Shay on April 06, 2011, 01:33:43 pm
That.... kind of made my jaw drop. She looks so different! And, I've been noticing this for the past couple of pages but, she looks awfully tired lately... I'm worried that something very, very bad is going to, or is in the process of, happening to her...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on April 06, 2011, 01:43:47 pm
Yay, the Crest-Suspiria romance is heating up  ;D !  It's a pity that they're both still reluctant to tell each other how they really feel about each other.  Don't scare her away, Crest -- you've got a good thing going for you!
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 06, 2011, 02:01:58 pm
Suspiria = Hawt.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on April 06, 2011, 02:15:07 pm
That.... kind of made my jaw drop. She looks so different! And, I've been noticing this for the past couple of pages but, she looks awfully tired lately... I'm worried that something very, very bad is going to, or is in the process of, happening to her...
Well we don't know if that Thin Man sidekick did anything to her or not...

Also love Suspi new look!
Kinda fitting for emo Crest.

But I hope May will stay blonde...
Or maybe she will dye her hair black too so she would not be the only blonde female left in the team ;)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on April 06, 2011, 05:09:29 pm
She looks manlier than crest now.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Andrea on April 06, 2011, 06:25:50 pm
I really hope nothing bad happens to her, she's my favorite char. :/
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on April 06, 2011, 06:51:28 pm
NO! I loved Suspira's hair! It made her seem more unique. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 :(
She better not get killed off now.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Furcas on April 06, 2011, 09:48:30 pm
The problem with a Suspiria/Crest romance is that Crest will always be a (poor) replacement for Kin in Suspiria's eyes, even if she denies it for a while.

Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Furcas on April 06, 2011, 09:53:35 pm
The problem with a Suspiria/Crest romance is that Crest will always be a (poor) replacement for Kin in Suspiria's eyes, even if she denies it for a while.




Also, their hairstyles are too similar.    :D



Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on April 07, 2011, 09:18:17 am
I don't think she's been hitting on Crest becuase she's trying to replace anyone. I think she's been hitting on Crest becuase she realizes she needs to heal and to grow up, and she needs help support when she's doing it.

Kin and Crest have different personalities.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 07, 2011, 03:56:08 pm
Why's everyone assuming Kin and Suspiria were a good couple anyway? Maybe they were dysfunctional and had problems... maybe not?
I like Crest, so I'm rooting for him to be happy.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: crazy_razor on April 07, 2011, 05:51:08 pm
Oh my god Suspiria is so adorable. The hair and the big giant sweater, eeee! Here's hoping she gets more time in the spotlight, I really want to see her developed as a character.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on April 07, 2011, 07:47:44 pm
Haaaaaaair.


... I actually like her new hairstyle, though >.>
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on April 08, 2011, 02:49:37 am
I'm really excited to see what May's new costume will be provided by Moby, it just can't end well ::)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on April 11, 2011, 06:44:02 am
I wonder what will be "Naughty Pork"'s show.  :'(

But of course, there are other fun mysteries here, boss.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: twalker500 on April 11, 2011, 10:40:50 am
I wonder who they are? Mysteeeeeeeeeeeeeerious.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on April 11, 2011, 01:11:21 pm
I only recall the guy from last panel...

I don't have idea who are these two in first row...

And who is the lady in the middle, maybe Bloody Mary, or maybe May's real sister or mother who also is a jester?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Pwncho on April 11, 2011, 03:02:40 pm
"...drowning, I'm waving" is signed up for the show... i feel that i heard of that jester before... 5^
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on April 12, 2011, 06:05:34 pm
"...drowning, I'm waving" is signed up for the show... i feel that i heard of that jester before... 5^

<.<

It'll be a tough battle between May and I, but I think I'm up for the challenge ;)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Enkida on April 13, 2011, 03:48:02 am
Oooh!  forums revamped!  There's a place to put this now!  Post removed!

Also, can't wait to see Maytag's next costume, too.  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on April 13, 2011, 05:12:11 am
Please, please, PLEASE tell me we'll get to see Piranha Dan.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Eversist on April 13, 2011, 06:40:08 am
I think you meant:
"You twenty-four will be tonight's group!" or "You twenty-four are to be tonight's group!"

Lovin' the comic, Brion.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: twalker500 on April 13, 2011, 12:12:18 pm
I put it in the mistake thread, Eversist.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on April 15, 2011, 04:59:52 am
My bets are on Mayweather and Tagerty who Maytag named herself after... I wonder if those two knew that she changed her name to that.

Shepherd is an obvious other.  Not sure about the third person who's noticed that she's performing.  Maybe a former lover or even Fata Morgana.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 15, 2011, 03:59:32 pm
I forgot for a little while that her name wasn't Maytag. "V. Kingfisher," right?
I wonder what the V stands for... Verona?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on April 16, 2011, 01:37:38 am
If my memory serves me well, it was actually revealed during the course of the story. And if my memory still serves me well, you got the three third letters right at least.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on April 16, 2011, 02:28:54 pm
I forgot for a little while that her name wasn't Maytag. "V. Kingfisher," right?
I wonder what the V stands for... Verona?

I think it was Veranda.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 16, 2011, 03:41:49 pm
Something like that...
I couldn't find it again.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on April 17, 2011, 07:08:50 pm
Maytag's joke about kids was pretty cruel, but funny and in keeping with her risque sense of humor.  Brion, who would you say was your inspiration for her stand-up act (as seen in other chapters, as well)?  It seems a bit reminiscent of Sarah Silverman and Lisa Lampanelli, those type of "shock jock" female comics.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on April 17, 2011, 07:25:02 pm
Yeah, those were the type of acts I was thinking of, and also Carlin who is my favorite comedian.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on April 18, 2011, 01:30:33 pm
Okay, Shadowy figures had me worried.  I don't know, I was just thinking, man, things are so happy right now, let's not screw it up *just* quite yet.  So, nice to see a reunion.  I'm still going through chapter zero, so haven't met these two yet.  (I assume they're in there.)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on April 19, 2011, 04:25:39 pm
I forgot for a little while that her name wasn't Maytag. "V. Kingfisher," right?
I wonder what the V stands for... Verona?

I think it was Veranda.

Yep, Veranda.  Which just so happens to be the same name as a powerful alcoholic drink which is sweet to the taste.  I always thought that was a neat little way to describe a bit of Maytag's character by having her describe the drink she shares a name with.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg22.html

We never saw Mayweather and Taggert in Book 0, they were only mentioned by Maytag as to how she got her real name.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs25pg03.html
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on April 19, 2011, 06:03:36 pm
Just finished chapter 0.  And so am now up to date.  Which makes me sad.  But, new strip tomorrow.  Which is a good thing :)  Speaking of current chapter, which is kind of what this threads supposed to be about. (Sorry!)  Maytag is going to be pretty well powered down for any combative purposes without the d-bag huh?  Man, those things would come in handy. 
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on April 19, 2011, 10:41:25 pm
It'll be interesting to see if she starts carrying a proper purse or belt bag around with her to hold her possessions.  Maybe the new suit she's due to get will have some pouches or even magic like that of the d-bag built into it.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 20, 2011, 04:19:45 am
That would seem pointless to me seeing as how she "absorbs" the D-Bag in the first place.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on April 20, 2011, 05:54:06 am
That was that particular Dimensional Bag though, with absorbtion available as an option.  You may recall that Kin had a special Dimensional bag which was physical (it held his sword).  I'd dare say it takes less effort (and magic) to make just the dimentional space as opposed to one which can also be absorbed and produce items according to the user's thoughts.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on April 24, 2011, 05:55:29 pm
Okay, so maybe Mayweather and Taggert aren't all *That* nice.  Still, they haven't outright tried to kill anyone yet.  That's something at least.  :)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 25, 2011, 07:47:09 am
I think they're nice enough at least. I don't expect any antagonistic tendencies from them in the near future. Rivaling perhaps, but nothing bad enough to warrant them taking up residence in a den of foes.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on April 25, 2011, 08:45:33 am
They might think that because they've taught her so much that she has a chance to win and try to sabotage her.

...It suddenly occurs to me that Bern is headed south, which might mean she passes by Bloody Mary along the way...

Probably also mean she stops by in Solstice to let Sierra and Co know how Crest's doing.  Might even check up on Qtalda's persuit and Vajra's recovery of the town.

Lots of possibilities... I need to look up where Vestige is again  It sounds familiar... OH! it was where our story begun: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs01pg01.html

I wonder if Cornfeather and Lasko temple where north of south of there... Actually, I'm pretty sure Vestige is south of Solstice so I guess Bern has already passed there as well.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs23pg12.html
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on April 25, 2011, 08:40:03 pm
Lots of possibilities... I need to look up where Vestige is again  It sounds familiar... OH! it was where our story begun: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs01pg01.html


...memories.......
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: nilinet on April 27, 2011, 03:49:25 am
Aw! I like today's page. It reminds me of my husband and I skyping when he's deployed. I wish we had portals so he could come home every night... Or so I could go visit him wherever his cursed ship takes him. I'd set a portal up right inside his rack(bed). lol :D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on April 27, 2011, 04:53:24 pm
Well, if things did become desperate, I guess May could just take a portal through with her and then Bern would have another one to setup at some point after using her current one.

I wonder how much effort it takes to make a portal.  Can Suspira produce one a day or something or maybe she's not skilled in making them. *shrug*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Smiles on April 27, 2011, 10:52:46 pm
i hope May wins.  there's some really nice transition story going here. I like how you mention time passing and such.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on April 28, 2011, 12:14:08 pm
New strip. Suspira is putting moves on Crest. But it's not nearly sexy with the new haircut. Actually it's kind of scary and awkward. Don't you hate how women always ask men to do stuff like this and then get pissed if we get a boner?
Edit: Well to be fair, most sensible women tend to stop getting pissed about the boners-in-the-supposed-purely-platonic-shared-bed scenarios around college age, but until they reach that level of maturity, isn't it hell?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on April 28, 2011, 01:00:34 pm
It's time!
Crest will loose his pesky virginity!
 :o :o :o

Or it's just friendly sleepover cause Suspiria is feeling more depressed and needs a body to hug.

Also previous page with Bern and May conversation was just so sweet :-*
I wonder who will get first into major trouble, May or Bern.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 28, 2011, 01:08:13 pm
quite an awkward thing to ask a man like Crest. I don't believe he'll do it.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on April 28, 2011, 04:16:10 pm
Dun dun duuu
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on April 28, 2011, 04:36:58 pm
I wonder who will get first into mayor trouble, May or Bern.

Dude, how did you know my upcoming plotline involves both May and Bern getting involved with evil mayors?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Keaoden Silverstride on April 28, 2011, 04:37:40 pm
Honestly I don't think she meant how it sounded but maybe because she is nervous and lonely it came out like that.

Maybe she meant to say, "Would you stay with me?" instead.

I like the Crest x Suspiria its more of a simple and cute kind of relationship so far.

I still think Crest is far too enamored with Maytag for his own good but maybe Suspiria can break him of that.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on April 29, 2011, 12:06:22 am
I wonder who will get first into major trouble, May or Bern.

Dude, how did you know my upcoming plotline involves both May and Bern getting involved with evil mayors?
Two evil mayors?

Really?

:D

Nah it was just a typo, correcting now.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Oddball on April 29, 2011, 05:02:18 am
Is it me or did Crest get in fully clothed? reminds me of the shower scene from the film Weird Science.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: crazy_razor on April 29, 2011, 08:55:53 am
Brion, your Masakazu Katsura influence is showing. Eh hee.

I love Crest and Suspiria. But then, I'm shameless. <3
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on April 29, 2011, 03:51:27 pm
A beautiful girl forces you into the bed with her and you have to lie perfectly still and can't do anything with her.
What a nightmare. :(
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Keaoden Silverstride on April 29, 2011, 05:16:27 pm
A beautiful girl forces you into the bed with her and you have to lie perfectly still and can't do anything with her.
Shouldn't that be enough?

Suspiria must trust Crest quite a bit to ask him to stay with her, but poor Crest is too nervous to enjoy the fact that she needs him.

When will he learn to relax around women. /sigh
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: TheShyOne on April 29, 2011, 06:14:11 pm
Shouldn't that be enough?

Suspiria must trust Crest quite a bit to ask him to stay with her, but poor Crest is too nervous to enjoy the fact that she needs him.

When will he learn to relax around women. /sigh

I can somewhat relate to Crest, but I'm more confined and less social; that's just me though. Other than that, I could never truly understand what really goes on...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on April 29, 2011, 07:05:48 pm
I can somewhat relate to Crest, but I'm more confined and less social;
aren't we all...? I mean, isn't that why we're on forums instead of outside?
(meh... the forums are better anyway)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on April 30, 2011, 08:47:20 am
I'm on the forum because the outside hates me.  (I just gone done mowing a couple acres and my allergies are killing me.)

But anyway, back to topic at hand.  Yeah, that could be tricky ground for crest.  There are several different things she could want here.  And it could be OH so easy for him to guess the wrong one.  :)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kanazaka on April 30, 2011, 01:48:46 pm
"Yes ... we fuck."  Great line  ;D.  And wooo!  Go Crest (bow-chicka-wowow)!  Good call with the Masakazu Katsura reference, crazy_razor.  It does remind me of that one scene between Yota and Nobuko in Video Girl Ai.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 01, 2011, 08:42:08 pm
*lol* well she is asking for a favor.  Its possible that he's just a substitute for Kinn, or maybe she really is lonely and just wants someone to snuggle up to.

...Maytag should still be staying in the house.  I wonder what she'll think when she gets up in the morning and finds Crest and Inverness both leaving from the same room.

We used to wonder what happened HERE (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=725) but judging by Crest's reaction now, it seems they really did just sit and maybe talk.

I simply can't tell where this is going.  She seems to like Crest but there's still this worry in my head that she's not over Kinn and that even if she is, a dominating girl like her might not be the right match for such a submissive man like Crest.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: TheShyOne on May 01, 2011, 09:16:18 pm
I was about to predict some sort of conclusion, but I'm a bit more confused at this point. Then again, I never could understand wtf is going on or is about to go on clearly.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 02, 2011, 12:26:15 am
Well so Suspi just needed a Crest dakimura to feel safe around?

Well maybe something can be built from it if Suspi feels safe with Crest presence like that.

Also Crest, lol, no sleep for him tonight!

But we didn't get a morning wood scene ;D

His talk with May should be interesting, since he doesn't have any kind of knowledge how relationships works and what signs Suspi may be sending him, he needs to ask the expert here.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 02, 2011, 01:23:00 am
His talk with May should be interesting, since he doesn't have any kind of knowledge how relationships works and what signs Suspi may be sending him, he needs to ask the expert here.

Agree, whatever happens, he's likely to have a talk to Maytag about it.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on May 02, 2011, 10:30:51 am
A beautiful girl forces you into the bed with her and you have to lie perfectly still and can't do anything with her.
Shouldn't that be enough?

Suspiria must trust Crest quite a bit to ask him to stay with her, but poor Crest is too nervous to enjoy the fact that she needs him.

When will he learn to relax around women. /sigh

Some of us have overactive hormones that would make it an utter agony.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on May 02, 2011, 12:59:14 pm
Well, he survived the night and I see no signs of trauma yet.  So , well enough. :)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on May 02, 2011, 03:31:13 pm
A-"And the Shippers go WILD!!!"
Here's a quote from one of these shippers.
S-"I was a little disappointed at first, but realized, that.... uh, yeah. It's better this way. They should, um, take it slow."
A-"Quite the wordsmith isn't he?"
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: dg86 on May 02, 2011, 04:01:53 pm
Okay, guys...has anyone ever noticed that Crest looks like a miniature Kin? 

Think about it--Suspiria's paying for his swordfighting lessons, uses him as a snuggle toy...

She wants a replacement Kin.  Now imagine a more buffed up Crest with a slightly different haircut.

More or less an exact replica of Kin.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on May 03, 2011, 05:49:49 am
Okay, guys...has anyone ever noticed that Crest looks like a miniature Kin?
And have you noticed suspiria looks like a miniature miniature kin?
If kin, crest and suspiria had a threesome we wouldn't know who's who.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 03, 2011, 08:55:11 pm
Okay, guys...has anyone ever noticed that Crest looks like a miniature Kin?
And have you noticed suspiria looks like a miniature miniature kin?
If kin, crest and suspiria had a threesome we wouldn't know who's who.
Crest would be on the bottom *LOL*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: RoninAngel on May 04, 2011, 03:41:17 am
True that! :D

I feel really bad for Crest in the latest comic. If I was in his position I would feel like I needed to get Suspira to talk to me about what was going on (at the very least). But we all know that is like walking in to a minefield. Suspira is just so... vulnerable emotionally. But... I feel like that doesn't give her the right to take advantage of Crest. And that's what I think forcing him to sleep with her is. She doesn't seem to have any idea about what doing that would do to Crest, nor does she care.  It would psychologically torque me out and hormonally mess me up to be that physically close to a woman night after night but not fuck her and not know where I stood with her, and I feel like Crest is going to have to stand up to her if they are ever going to be together or even remain friends. I think what she is doing to him is unbelievably passive-aggressive and selfish. Especially if she doesn't even tell him what is going on.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on May 04, 2011, 06:21:10 am
I think Maytag's analysis is right on the money.  Crest is usually nervous around pretty women because... well that's NORMAL, especially for a virgin and especially for a guy who's been BURNED before.  Any guy who ISN'T nervous around pretty women, is some guy women shouldn't be going near, at least not willingly.  Those guys tend to treat women very badly.  With Suspira, she's also a level 3 "genius" mage.  The sleep depriving fear is well justified.   Now as for asking him to her bed, well.  We don't know HOW LONG Suspira and Kin were an item.  She could simply be accustomed to needing a warm body, and to Crest's credit, he has shown he knows how to keep her safe.

So Crest, keep being nice to her, treat her well, and we'll see how this goes.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on May 04, 2011, 04:59:40 pm
Heh.  Maybe Maytag wasn't the right person to ask. Really, she seemed as confused as Crest for once.    :)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Churba on May 04, 2011, 05:02:34 pm
Hey Crest, How far away are you taking Suspria on holiday?
Tillicum. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tillicum_Village)
Oh shit you're never coming back.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 05, 2011, 01:11:38 am
Yeah, Suspira is accommodating Crest and Maytag and paying for Crest's fighter training.  I don't think she's being mean but ASKING him for the favour of sleeping with her.

She's probably not aware of Crest's virginity, or even how nervous he is around women since he hangs out with Maytag.  I'd figure that she's thinking Crest would speak up and ask her directly if he was uncomfortable.  Otherwise I'm sure she'd explain that she's simply lonely and just needs some company to get through the night.

I'm not really blaming Maytag's confusion either.  It's not like she got our view of the situation. She's relying on Crest's description.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Enkida on May 05, 2011, 02:22:55 am
Ahaha!  Maytag´s face on the first panel == priceless!  Comedy gold!

Especially since I read that first as "Crest managed to have sex?  With ANYONE?"

Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: WreckedElf on May 05, 2011, 10:31:23 am
Ahk! Could no longer resist, had to register and post! So.. Yay for my first post, and hello everbody!

Crest is the character who got me hooked on this comic, and I admit to being a hopeless Crest X Suspiria shipper! It seems pretty clear to me that Suspiria is currently drawn to Crest because of her depression and his similiarities to Kin; this could lead to trouble if neither she nor Crest catch on. Poor inexperienced Crest could get really hurt and confused if she recovers her composure and then decides she doesn't really like him like that. However, ever since Kin showed up I've always felt like he was a matured cofindent version of Crest. And I really think that as Crest gains some confidence and expierence he will naturally become a person similar to Kin in character, thus he really could be a good match for Suspiria.

And I think Suspiria has a lot of the same traits that Crest found attractive in Maytag... with the added benefit that Suspiria is actually attracted to guys like Crest, where Maytag isn't really.

So maybe it's just the ship-bias in me speaking, but I really think they have potential for a really cool relationship.


Also, I found Maytag's reaction to Crest sleeping with Suspiria and her confusion at plutonically sleeping together to quite amusing!




Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on May 06, 2011, 09:52:56 pm
Aww. Crest is so CUTE.  He's got it BAD for Suspira. At least he gets it.  Yes, he's going to have to be VERY patient, but Suspira will be totally worth it.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Churba on May 06, 2011, 10:38:36 pm
Aww. Crest is so CUTE.  He's got it BAD for Suspira. At least he gets it.  Yes, he's going to have to be VERY patient, but Suspira will be totally worth it.
Either that, or she'll get the shits with him and in a burst of rage and magical power explodes him into a cloud of rapidly expanding incandescent gasses that used to be Crest.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 07, 2011, 06:35:39 am
Or gives him a sex change.

My immediate thought is that Maytag could just bring a new portal through and leave it with Bern, but I'm guessing they're expensive.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Andrea on May 07, 2011, 09:17:45 am
I'm for the Crest+Suspiria couple.

Also, I'm sure someday Crest will become a skilled swordsman, maybe even more skilled than Kin. And we'll have a nice complete jrpg party:

Bernadette -> The Hero
Maytag -> The Rogue
Crest -> The Badass swordfighter
Suspiria -> The Badass wizard

Thankfully we don't have an annoying cleric.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 07, 2011, 06:22:20 pm
Bern -> The Champion -> Physical attack
Maytag -> The Rogue -> Diplomacy, theft, healing, etc
Crest -> The Meatshield -> Damage absorbtion
Suspira -> The Mage -> Magic attack, healing, etc

I can't believe we skipped all the old towns.  I thought for sure we'd get stop-offs in Solstice and Vestige to see Orrasong and Sierra and maybe let Ashley take another shot at the title. *shrug*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 09, 2011, 02:03:51 am
I'm glad we skipped them, I want to see Bern subplot unfolding than getting distracted by old characters ^^

And no, the party needs a sexy cleric!
Or a hot nun with healing magic :D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on May 09, 2011, 04:57:21 am
Aww. Crest is so CUTE.  He's got it BAD for Suspira. At least he gets it.  Yes, he's going to have to be VERY patient, but Suspira will be totally worth it.
Either that, or she'll get the shits with him and in a burst of rage and magical power explodes him into a cloud of rapidly expanding incandescent gasses that used to be Crest.

Crest is going to take Suspira to Taco Bell?! :o
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on May 09, 2011, 10:33:46 am
That can't be the real regina? I bet it's Fata up to tricks :P
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 09, 2011, 11:16:45 am
Dum dum dum... Regina!

Or again this is Fata...

Still it would be interesting if that was real Regina, maybe she got bored with her life and wanted a change so she choose to be like May and became a jester?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on May 09, 2011, 01:23:29 pm
no... way...

!?!?!!!??!!?!?!?!!?!
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on May 09, 2011, 06:29:57 pm
*thinks back* Regina as in chapter 0 apprentice girl?


DUN DUN DUN.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Puyon on May 09, 2011, 06:51:13 pm
I bet May's just gonna calm down and say: "Oh wait, it's just Fata, again. Oh she, and her silly illusions."
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on May 09, 2011, 07:24:50 pm
Okay, that was unexpected.  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on May 09, 2011, 08:32:38 pm
Very surprising to see Regina! I wasn't a fan of her in Book 0, so if this is the real Regina standing up, I'm interested to see how she's changed over the course of time. It'll also be interesting to see if May still has feelings for her.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on May 10, 2011, 04:05:20 am
she's going to lose of course.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 10, 2011, 04:34:54 am
That can't be the real regina? I bet it's Fata up to tricks :P
Didn't even think of the Fata option... I guess May will have to pick up on if she's real or not.

If she is real, Maybe her relationship died and she lost faith or motivation to become a good Vespel sorceress and folloowed this avenue due to Maytag's inspiration... She can't be that bad if she's made it past the first round of the competition... maybe she adds a few minor magic tricks.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Oddball on May 10, 2011, 01:15:13 pm
Maybe Regina has gone all Glen Close in Fatal Attraction and turned into a Bunny Boiler?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 10, 2011, 05:12:58 pm
Alright, if Maytag, Bern and Suspira are the super powered team, who's the underdog team?

Crest for Rogue
Regina for Mage

Or do we presume that Crest covers both the Rogue and Fighter roles?  Heck, Maybe Regina has a split role with Bard now.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Enkida on May 11, 2011, 07:36:01 am
It's nice to finally find out why Bernadette is always wearing that scarf! Also, I don't remember, but is that the city where Bernadette grew up / joined that gang with Clarien or whateverhernamewas? Did we ever learn where that part of her life took place?

On Regina - I think it's the real one from book 0. I suspected it would be her from the foreshadowing pages, which if I remember also included Moss and Fata in a separate panel, so my bets are on a real one.

I also think she's going to tank and burn in the competition. Unless her personality did a 180 she never seemed to have the self confidence to succeed at something as brutal as stand up comedy. I thought the mage test would be easier by comparison and she failed that due to low self esteem. But who knows?

I am much more curious now to see if Moss meets Regina again, and what sort of snark he would have for her. And whether or not she's grown enough to snark back, heh heh.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 11, 2011, 08:41:21 am
Will we have some Bern origin backstory now?
At least the mystery of the scarf was revealed, no wonder she wears it all the time if that's the last thing she has from her mother.

And if this is indeed the city where Bern joined Blackbird gang, maybe that first Bern crush too will make an appearance, crossing fingers ;)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on May 12, 2011, 12:45:25 pm
That city (is that Galahad?) looks very industrial. Very different from all we have seen yet.
Maybe they have less magic?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 13, 2011, 02:57:33 am
It would explain Bern take on magic if she was raised there, indeed the city looks more industrial and technology oriented than magic.

And current page, it's Regina all right, and it's pretty rare to see May so shocked :D
I now doubt it's Fata.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on May 13, 2011, 07:19:10 am
I wonder though. Is Beeflips Perona named like that because he/she flips like a bee ? Or...  :'(
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: parameciumkid on May 13, 2011, 12:48:31 pm
Regina's back! And next miss Maneater (forgot her real name)! And then we get to find out where Mary's been this whole time!
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Ranakel on May 13, 2011, 02:27:45 pm
Well, as opposed to miss Maneater, Regina didn't left the story by being captured, restrained by a magical device, and reduced by a powerful fire spell into a little pile of ash.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on May 13, 2011, 07:07:24 pm
I figure it's real Regina as well.  Experience tells me that Maytag is observant enough to catch on if it was someone impersonating her.  Also, I take it that the comedy act didn't go too well, so that fits what we know of Regina.  Fata would have been better at it simply because of her ego.  She wouldn't have been able to play herself down that way I think.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Pwncho on May 14, 2011, 03:35:55 pm
So is glyph an official X-men member now?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 16, 2011, 04:44:23 am
Yeah, I'm thinking the real Regina.  Interesting to see she gave up on a career as a Vespel sorceress, or any sorceress for that matter, but she's young and I think this shows a better truth of youth not being simply excellent at something from the get go but stumbling around as they try to find their place in the world... I wonder if her material is really good of if she just told all the jokes that Maytag told her...

So she's a below average sorceress and a below average entertainer.  This is what happens when you multi-class people! :P
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Nettlekid on May 18, 2011, 03:43:14 am
Didn't Fata already pretend to be Regina that one time in the Bed and Breakfast? I doubt we'd be seeing her pull the same stunt again. Plus we wouldn't have seen her face shadowed out, looking at the entry list and saying "Maytag, could it really be you?" or something like that.

Just a silly thought, but I realize that Regina's new life as a jester was foreshadowed back in one of the very early intermissions! Just as a little joke, but it's amusing to note nonetheless. On a more topic-related discussion, what's the consensus here? Did Regina fall for Maytag after what the latter said to her while she was unconscious (maybe she could hear after all, or at least felt the kiss) in Book 0, and is now emulating the jester's life is a very stalkerish sort of way?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 18, 2011, 04:51:50 am
Seems so, Regina realised that she loves May and/or her boyfriend was more interested into magical studies than her, and the crush burned out.

Now the question is how May will react to maybe only person which could tempt her to cheat on Bern, since we know May has feeligns toward Regina.

Or being positive when Bern will return we may get a threesome :P

Now we need Bern to get her own temptress in her part of the story.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Enkida on May 18, 2011, 05:52:01 am
Oops!  I hope Bern likes a threesome because Maytag really does love Regina.  If Regina loves her back now, it won't be a "fling" like Umber was.

I still like Crest better than Regina as the Dr. Who companion, though.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on May 18, 2011, 06:33:34 am
Man... I knew it was going to be awkward as soon as Regina showed up, but this is getting creepy.
She's a stalker now...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Nettlekid on May 18, 2011, 02:35:38 pm
Hmm, Kiran, I like the idea of Bern being seduced somehow. That would be an interesting, hitherto unprecedented development. Especially if she falls to temptation, and the sound-transmitting rings are still active. 0_o

Two questions here. One, does May actually love Regina? There were instances in Book 0 where she seemed more-than-friendly (especially at the end) but more with either admiration of Regina's efforts, or generally smitten with the cuteness, or maybe it was just Maytag's trademarked libido acting up. If anything, I'd say Maytag views Regina as a very close gal pal, while Regina might be the first one to take it further. And on that note, my second question...How's Regina going to react to Bern's existence?

Also, non-comic related, but how do I edit my profile pic and signature and all that? I'm new here, and the profile tab only asks me if I want to delete my account...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 18, 2011, 02:54:41 pm
Hmmm, I dunno.  It'll be interesting to see just how much of that story about Fata that Maytag decides to relay.  It'll pretty much mean she has to confess to kissing Regina, let her know that she was tempted by the idea of Regina coming onto her, let Regina know that she's a bisexual and in a relationship with Bern... If she tells her the whole story.  I don't see why she wouldn't let her know that she and Bern are an item now though.

I'm not sure what to think about Regina as a lesbian or bisexual.  I get the impression that she looks up to Maytag more as a mentor, big sister or hero than a potential partner.

No need to really ask about Lucient.  He'd been influenced by Seraph for a long time in how to act towards women and believe that they're simply over emotional burdens that get in the way of advancement in magic.  I'm thinking that with Seraph's death he felt like he had to live up to his teacher/mentor's hopes for him and continue Seraph's work.  But maybe things got even darker in his drive for knowledge...

I do like the idea though that Maytag might be sorely tempted with Bern away and Regina as a girl she also cares relatively deeply for.  Love the other suggestion that Bern might even run into an old flame and be tempted.  If all goes well though, Bern shouldn't take too long to find her father in that city and reunite with Maytag for a few hours.  I'm sure the rings are helping as well.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on May 18, 2011, 03:58:20 pm
Nettlekid: As a new anti-spammer rule, you have to have 10 posts before you can edit your profile.  The option to edit it will show up then.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Andrea on May 18, 2011, 04:07:24 pm
Now I want to see some fanservice of maytag and regina having sex!
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Shadowcat on May 19, 2011, 01:33:58 am
@Nettle
I think that May clearly does have feelings for Regina. Kissing her was a sign of affection beyond anything physical, and since Regina wasn't even aware of it, it was only for May's benefit. Besides, Regina was the first person that Fata picked out of May's memories in order to try to seduce her. The fact that it visibly affected May (enough to make her adopt her poker face in later panels) means that is was something that she found very difficult.

But anyway, the reason I decided to finally make an account and post is that i was going through my books, and i found foreshadowing:
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=222

Perhaps we need to take a closer look at the intermissions from now on D=
(totally not serious)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 19, 2011, 04:55:51 am
Indeed, we'll have to pay more attention to some of the old intermissions... Didn't Maytag say something about the Conclave being a bunch of guys who drank the blood of Virgins? *lol*

Also interesting to note are a few of the things Regina said such as:
"I love Maytag...! She's the best friend I've ever had. I'd die if something were to happen her!!" (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs19pg11.html)
"I'll stay by [Lucient's] side... no matter what" (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg15.html)
"EWWWW...!! I can't kiss a girl!" (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg25.html)

And Maytag to Regina:
"You know. It's probably best that we're parting now... I'm starting to have feelings for you that I shouldn't..." (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg30.html)
"I hope he takes care of you and gives you as much attention as I would!  I hope he makes love to you as passionately as I would. I hope he loves you like I would..." (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic/book0/fs26pg31.html)

P.S. @Brion: Love the use of "shadows" of the past panels to remind us of the Book0 events.  Two pages and these girls are completely caught up... well... after a quick time lapse where Maytag explains it all and Regina comments on what Maytag's told her probably *lol*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 20, 2011, 12:49:45 am
Damn, this hit me hard!

Cute little Bern already with her swords and that trademark too big scarf for her, just :-*

And we see the father, I hope next we will see him in whole glory.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: garion on May 21, 2011, 09:22:12 pm
 Chapter 11, Page 28 (http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=418)

I've been pondering what exactly Orrasong meant when he said The Split Rose was a children's fighting style, but from then on it seems to have served her rather well. (With the exception of the fight with Moss' Uncle.) Are we going to find out pretty soon here what he was talking about or is this something that's been tossed out? xD
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on May 21, 2011, 09:55:41 pm
It has not been tossed out, don't worry.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: BillMo on May 23, 2011, 08:11:55 am
Has anyone thought that Crest and Bern' are siblings?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on May 23, 2011, 01:32:33 pm
It's nice to see Bern get some side story action that doesn't involve Maytag. Lately whenever there's a cut scene, it's like 2 pages of Crest or Bern and then back to 15 pages of whatever Maytag's doing. While Flipside is supposed to be a comic about two women, I often feel it's Maytag's story and Bernadette is just a side character in it. I hope Bern gets a long involved backstory or sidequest now :-*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 23, 2011, 03:43:19 pm
Keep fingers crossed for a sexy lady to show up who stopped the fight(it isn't Bern I think) who had thrown that ball or something similiar :D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 23, 2011, 04:33:39 pm
It's nice to see Bern get some side story action that doesn't involve Maytag. Lately whenever there's a cut scene, it's like 2 pages of Crest or Bern and then back to 15 pages of whatever Maytag's doing. While Flipside is supposed to be a comic about two women, I often feel it's Maytag's story and Bernadette is just a side character in it. I hope Bern gets a long involved backstory or sidequest now :-*

Much like we were seeing the story unfold from Crest's perspective through the first two books, I think we tend to see it unfold from Maytag's perspective for the most part now.  What Maytag knows or discovers, we know or discover.  But it could switch to any of them.  Probably going to be Bern making her own discoveries for sometime here.

I don't know about Bern and Crest being siblings. But maybe they're cousins.  Crest knows who his father was and Bern knows who her father is (pretty much) so they know they're different people. But it could be that because their fathers were both Lashoar knights that they were brothers or possibly cousins which still means that Bern and Crest are related, just more distantly.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: TheShyOne on May 23, 2011, 04:52:47 pm
I don't know about Bern and Crest being siblings. But maybe they're cousins.  Crest knows who his father was and Bern knows who her father is (pretty much) so they know they're different people. But it could be that because their fathers were both Lashoar knights that they were brothers or possibly cousins which still means that Bern and Crest are related, just more distantly.

@charles: I'd be in awe if that were true... somewhat. (Sounds like a twist.)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: L0g0s on May 23, 2011, 08:01:38 pm
Keep fingers crossed for a sexy lady to show up who stopped the fight(it isn't Bern I think) who had thrown that ball or something similiar :D

I bet it's a lobster woman.   

I've just got this feeling...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: dg86 on May 23, 2011, 10:34:46 pm
So we go from Chibi Bern to flashback-Bern-but-with-scar.

Hmmm, I guess the origin of that scar isn't exactly something we're supposed to find out till later huh...
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on May 24, 2011, 01:21:54 am
Much like we were seeing the story unfold from Crest's perspective through the first two books, I think we tend to see it unfold from Maytag's perspective for the most part now.  What Maytag knows or discovers, we know or discover.  But it could switch to any of them.  Probably going to be Bern making her own discoveries for sometime here.

That's my point, the intro is said this is a story about two women. Even when it was told from Crest's point of view, it was much more of him crushing on Maytag and stalking her lol, though it was nice to see his background and family life. The story from Book 0 has always been heavily focused on Maytag -- I'm hoping here we'll get a long stint in Bernadette's point of view, or sometime soon. I too hope Blackbird shows up to stir things up a bit.    :-*
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on May 24, 2011, 07:49:04 am
I too hope Blackbird shows up to stir things up a bit.    :-*
Any chances, that ball throwing woman is Blackbird?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Nettlekid on May 24, 2011, 08:02:11 am
Sorry for my ignorance, but who's Blackbird? I read Book 0, but some of the names are still a little disconnected in my head.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on May 24, 2011, 08:57:08 am
Sorry for my ignorance, but who's Blackbird? I read Book 0, but some of the names are still a little disconnected in my head.
IIRC she was not in Book 0. The first mention of her I remember was here: http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=803
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 24, 2011, 11:28:00 am
What Bern saw in her...
She doesn't look to appealing in that two past panels.
Seems just like Bern had her first puppy crush.

Some bad ass girl showed up in today's extra page update, either Blackbird or maybe someone else from Bern old gang?
That hairstyle and dark lips with collar...
Kinky :P

Don't tell me Blackbird is Marvallo mayor :D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on May 24, 2011, 06:45:19 pm
Still a possibility it's Blackbird with a new hairstyle. Don't know if that's some kind of cigarette holder the new character is using, but Blackbird was smoking in that flashback.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Azure Priest on May 25, 2011, 05:23:21 am
Looks like the stick of a lollipop to me.  She's clutching it way too tight with her teeth for anything else.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on May 25, 2011, 09:53:42 am
Only one law - no violence.
Does that mean theft and fraud and all these things are allowed? Even murder if you find a way to do it without violence?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 25, 2011, 01:13:53 pm
Why all Brion's dark-haired characters are just so damn hot!?

First Vennice, now this new lady.

Love her style!

Now question is if Bern is shocked since she knows her or it's just about her looks :P

Logical outcome would be this is Blackbird, who instead of being gang leader become an enforcer of law in the city.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on May 25, 2011, 04:00:00 pm
It does look like Blackbird, she had a similar center hair cowlick in the flashback.^^

I must agree with Kiran, Vennice and now this new lady are quite striking!  :-* Flipside imo had been lacking in the dark-haired female variety until late.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: garion on May 25, 2011, 09:53:52 pm
Is that bouncy ball of epicness standard for all enforcers or is she just a badass like that? I can already tell I'm gonna like her, especially if that cocky way she holds herself stays.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 26, 2011, 04:04:55 am
Well... who better to tempt Maytag than Regina and who better to tempt Bern than Blackbird?

Here I was expecting a meeting with Bern's father and maybe danger to Maytag from Moss/Fata or the Thin Man and instead we have another test of the girl's relationship.  Should be interesting.

...alright, so Xenfa/Zenfa could probably tempt Maytag fairly good as well.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: akashayi on May 26, 2011, 10:21:33 pm
Also, because someone had to take Suspiria's crazy-hair-having place after she changed it :P
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 27, 2011, 03:32:09 am
Ouch! Steal Maytag's outfit.  I guess Moby's costume will come into play, unless Regina tries to lend hers.  Another costume change. Yay!

I actually like seeing all these different Jester costumes.  I wonder what this one will have.  The others have mostly all been some kind of body suit, so I wonder if we might get one with "extentions" of some description.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on May 27, 2011, 06:32:41 am
I do hope she has a spare.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: SAGG on May 27, 2011, 07:23:12 am
Maytag's already lost in that card game. Let's hope it doesn't happen with her jester costume possibly being taken!  >:( I want to see her succeed!  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Puyon on May 29, 2011, 12:43:51 pm
We can hope that Moby's done with that outfit by then. But Maytag did get that outfit rather quickly so it might not be hard to replace... assuming she can or has the money for it.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Nettlekid on May 29, 2011, 03:22:14 pm
Nah, remember she said she spent everything she had left on that new one, and NOW she's 3000 gold in debt to Glyph. It's going to be Moby to the "rescue," but depending on Moby's style the new costume may be even more detrimental to Maytag's spirit than losing her old one. OR, Moby's secret inner talent will shine through and...and...it'll be a disaster.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: charles on May 29, 2011, 07:53:53 pm
I'm thinking that Moby has had some time to observe Maytag and consider what she'd like.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Hans on May 30, 2011, 07:59:36 am
Why does everyone hate Mobys costumes? She just has to find the right audience. I mean, if dresses like (http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/content/images/2008/02/26/catwalk_twelve470_332x470.jpg) these (http://www.catwalkqueen.tv/lucyliuvalentino.jpg) get sold. And not in the low price segment.
That are by far not the most mobyistic I've seen, just what I could find on a quick search.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: twalker500 on May 30, 2011, 02:06:29 pm
Why isn't the incentive working?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: vintage on May 30, 2011, 03:47:06 pm
Do you mean the intermission? Because that doesn't show up for me XD
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Kiran on May 31, 2011, 11:55:16 am
Yup, I too don't see it.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Jety Lefr on May 31, 2011, 12:09:02 pm
why? I LOVE the intermissions!
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: 9_6 on June 01, 2011, 12:09:43 pm
Dem bricks! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdDP7u4tZTo)
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on June 01, 2011, 12:27:58 pm
Sorry that the intermission was screwed up the last few days, it should be viewable now.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Warlock on June 01, 2011, 01:43:09 pm
I'm shocked to see that both Maytag and Bern have come face to face with old unrequited love interests recently, only in May's case it seems that Regina may actually have the hots for her now (or at least wants to be by her side from now on...Dunno how to react to that, I can't help but feel there's more going on with her than we realize just yet, will May try to convince her to go back to sorcery?)

As for Blackbird...Wasn't she a gangleader before?  Kinda fishy that Clairen would move on to become an assassin and Blackbird would become an enforcer, which i assume is Galahad's equivalent of a police officer?

Also, meeting Mayweather and Taggert was cool, but I'm saddened to think that May's old mentors would seek to sabotage her rather than support her, creeps >_<

The use of those ringlets was pretty cool, its nice that they can keep in touch wherever from now on, I wonder how Bern and May will deal with Regina and Blackbird respectively.

P.S. I'm new around here, but is there like a thread I can go to discuss older chpts or debate aspects of the world of Flipside?  Or talk about things like level 4 sorcery or the nature of Bloody Mary's powers, etc?
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: Brion Foulke on June 01, 2011, 02:10:29 pm
If you want to discuss older chapters or other Flipside related things, please feel free to make your own thread here in the Flipside discussion forum.
Title: Re: Chapter 29: Discussion
Post by: FortMax on June 01, 2011, 04:58:18 pm
The intermission is mostly viewable, but it's not all there.