Comics Discussion => Flipside Discussion => Topic started by: Brion Foulke on August 11, 2010, 11:15:03 am
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This is the thread for discussing Chapter 26, "Arrival at Eschelon."
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My prediction: Glyph will feature prominently in this chapter.
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This chapter will feature Glyph looking at over nine thousand boobies through clothes.
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This chapter will feature Glyph looking at over nine thousand boobies through clothes.
Of course. Eschelon is a big city! Must be tons of pretty girls on the street ready for ogling.
Do you suppose they sell magical see-through-proof underwear in this setting?
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I think they'd have to, it's just a question of how expensive that enchantment would be.
Do you think Glyph might also get a kick from looking at their dbags? (can he see what's inside?) ;P
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So, does Bern notice?
And does this device allow ogling without eyes?
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Glyph is bisexual. May be some manservice as well. :D
Great cover Brian.
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hmmm, I don't this this chapter will significantly focus on Glyph more than the other characters. I think Brion probably just decided it was a good time to make the chapter for the 5th book and I'd say Glyph's face is it, keeping in line with the other book covers that feature the main character's faces prominantly.
But I could be wrong. Glyph is currently a very 2d character. We're yet to look into his background or much of his deeper character, so maybe Brion will hit into that with this chapter.
I'm VERY interested to see the city which appears the be the centre of magick in Eschelon when we've only been in small towns or a city like Solstice which is anti-magick. It'll be very cool to see what a major place with so much access to magick will do with it. I'd easily imagine that a good many of the people there are probably level 1 sorcerers with the level 2 and 3 sorcerers being considered like university graduates compared to the common folk with their high-school level of education at level 1.
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Hrrrnngg...
Must....not....make....Dragonball...Z....reference.... :-X
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Can't really blame Suspira for "just wanting to go home." We STILL don't know what Melter did to her, if anything, and to top it all off, she lost someone very precious to her on this last mission. Could it be she's developing feelings for Crest? :-*
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Whoa, a narrator? My poor suspension of disbelief lies unconscious on the floor!
Oh well, at least we skipped past the dull bits. ^_^
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Hmmm. Well drawn, but I prefer story to be move through dialog. More Crest+Suspira ship teasing, witch leaves me ambivalent. I'd would have rather had "As you know, a week has passed, Suspira just wants to go home, blah blah blah!" or at least a character (SUCH AS CREST OR MAYTAG ::)) narrating if there has to be narrations. but that might be a personal preferance. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.AsYouKnow
I do really like the still life though, Brion. Great art!
When is Maytag going to get her jester outfit back. Needs more nymphomaniac jester girl. Also, a new arm please.
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Bad form Brion. :(
Maytag needs her jester outfit. She's what brightens this comic up. Without the jester outfit, this group of characters can get a little bit... dull. :(
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That D-bag took Maytag's D-bag!
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You needn't worry Ronin, after all that was the jester outfit's 2nd incarnation. Remember the 1st got ripped to shreds. (Also there was a 3rd one in the side story if you count that.) Naturally, more jester outfits can always be made!
Yeah, I don't like narration either. I prefer to tell the story through dialog. But I am toying around with it because it allows exposition to be tossed out extremely fast in a somewhat natural way. If I have to use narration, I personally prefer to keep it as impersonal as possible; I absolutely can't stand character narration, especially in comics, because it just seems like the cheesiest thing in the world.
Take note that the next few pages will be the polar opposite, with the story being mostly told visually.
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You need to read it in the Winnie the Pooh Narrator voice. That's makes all exposition good.
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What the heck could "The Thin Man" possibly gain from Maytag's D-bag? Aside from being all her property, everything in there is pretty much common fare. You don't suppose "The Thin Man" is into Voodoo now do you? <Imagines a Maytag Voodoo doll>
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I suddenly have no clue what's going on in the comic.
I need to backtrack a bit...
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You needn't worry Ronin, after all that was the jester outfit's 2nd incarnation. Remember the 1st got ripped to shreds. (Also there was a 3rd one in the side story if you count that.) Naturally, more jester outfits can always be made!
Yeah, I don't like narration either. I prefer to tell the story through dialog. But I am toying around with it because it allows exposition to be tossed out extremely fast in a somewhat natural way. If I have to use narration, I personally prefer to keep it as impersonal as possible; I absolutely can't stand character narration, especially in comics, because it just seems like the cheesiest thing in the world.
Take note that the next few pages will be the polar opposite, with the story being mostly told visually.
Well I am sorry you feel that way. Character Narration is one of my favorite things. It can become a little bit of a guilty pleasure, admittedly, but I like the limitation of first person narration. I like the idea of knowing only what the character knows, because that's how life really is. It also provides a great set up for humour, with the narrative snarkiness or the Narrator setting up a joke and the pay-off made visually.
Yup! You can say we're polar opposites on opinions of that trope! :-*
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My preferred style of narration is 3rd person omniscient, with a sense of humor or sarcasm, much like you find in Discworld or A Series of Unfortunate Events.
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The only thing about that series is although I kind of liked the first book, I gave up on it because during reading the 2nd book of the series, I read one too many sentences where the narrator tried to increase my vocabulary by telling me the definitions of words I already knew.
After that happened, I was like, "Yeah... I am waaay too old to be reading these books..."
And that was it for me and the Series of Unfortunate vents. :(
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I've only read the first book...ages ago in a young adult book discussion group.
Not my cup of tea, but I like the voicey narration style.
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It really looks like they have access to architektonic magic.
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That cityscape is really cool. Great job Brion. :D
And the "Outer City" comment reminds me of LA. Because of urban sprawl, you can drive and drive and drive and still be technically be in Los Angeles. It's kind of sureal, it's supposed to be one big city but the vast majority of it is more just like a bunch of suburban areas squished together with no end in site.
Have you ever been to Los Angeles, Brion? :D
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Yeah, a few times for Anime Expo. Chicago is kind of like that too.
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I find that's the case with a lot of major city areas...sprawling across a huge area, with a concentrated downtown area. Though Los Angeles in particular is pretty spread out :P..... As far as cityscapes go...LA isn't nearly that tree/magic filled...unfortunately.
I can see why this page was up late. The city views are nice-
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Oh Brion, you and your wacky illusionary outdoor scenes! ::)
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Pages 4 and 5 were beautiful Brion. Nice work!
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Thanks, Umber. Wait till you see page 6!
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Ah, Brion, my compliments on the amazing art of the newest page. You're so great with buildings. <3
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Love page 6!
This city looks amazing, no wonder May and Bern look like that :D
Can't help not too laugh at the smiley at the bottom panel girl's wing (is it real body modification or just some flashy attachment?) and other girl 'No man' shirt, lol Bern should buy one too, these two girls look so cute maybe Bern will find some comrades ;)
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Love the color front page. And yes, "real" Eschelon city is sooo Los Angeles.
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Neat. :D
Pretty. :-[ :-*
Intriguing. :D
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Those two girls are my new favorite characters.
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Beautiful!
I want smiley bat wings really badly now. The 'city kids' look fun ;P
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Looking at page 6 panel 5 (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=1028) makes me think "What if Masamune Shirow" did fantasy?" I like. :)
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Wow, aesthetically speaking, this whole current story arc is like one big 80's revival fashion party.
I love it!
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Floating platforms! You gotta love floating platforms, unless they're part of a jumping puzzle.
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Maytag looks super cute in panel three.
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So Maytag has already been to Eschelon. Maybe she also has some old friends ther which she likes to visit. Maybe someone who could help her out, now that she has lost everything.
Just a small crdit to start a poker game could help.
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Floating platforms! You gotta love floating platforms, unless they're part of a jumping puzzle.
That shift around and disappear.
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I like that there are so many things in the last panel of page 7 that seem to say "up." The stone pillars on the platform point skyward, as do the buildings, two of which are literally arrows pointing up.
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Clouds shaped to look like rocks? Ok. I can live with that, but GREEN clouds shaped to look like rocks? That can't possibly be healthy.
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Clouds shaped to look like rocks? Ok. I can live with that, but GREEN clouds shaped to look like rocks? That can't possibly be healthy.
They're mint scented. That's why.
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or maybe they rain absinthe
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Or Marijuana :P
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After seeing that giant, floating, semi-cylindrical block on page 10, is anyone else reminded of those blue rectangular blocks from the old Mario games? I have this feeling that as soon as our heroes walk under it, it's going to come crashing down in an attempt to skoosh them!
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After seeing that giant, floating, semi-cylindrical block on page 10, is anyone else reminded of those blue rectangular blocks from the old Mario games? I have this feeling that as soon as our heroes walk under it, it's going to come crashing down in an attempt to skoosh them!
does this mean May's new outfit will be a tanooki suit?
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After seeing that giant, floating, semi-cylindrical block on page 10, is anyone else reminded of those blue rectangular blocks from the old Mario games? I have this feeling that as soon as our heroes walk under it, it's going to come crashing down in an attempt to skoosh them!
does this mean May's new outfit will be a tanooki suit?
We can hope. :)
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After seeing that giant, floating, semi-cylindrical block on page 10, is anyone else reminded of those blue rectangular blocks from the old Mario games? I have this feeling that as soon as our heroes walk under it, it's going to come crashing down in an attempt to skoosh them!
does this mean May's new outfit will be a tanooki suit?
If it does not include enormous testicles, I will be disappoint.
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After seeing that giant, floating, semi-cylindrical block on page 10, is anyone else reminded of those blue rectangular blocks from the old Mario games? I have this feeling that as soon as our heroes walk under it, it's going to come crashing down in an attempt to skoosh them!
does this mean May's new outfit will be a tanooki suit?
If it does not include enormous testicles, I will be disappoint.
Eh? Wha? Maytag doesn't have THOSE! And yes, Seeing that giant cylindrical object floating over the courtyard, my first thought was "pile driver!"
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OK, Who instantly thought of this one word when they saw that giant floating weight above the University?
"DISPELL!"
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Nah I thought "how did they manage to get a builidng permit for that" :P
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You needn't worry Ronin, after all that was the jester outfit's 2nd incarnation. Remember the 1st got ripped to shreds. (Also there was a 3rd one in the side story if you count that.) Naturally, more jester outfits can always be made!
Yeah, I don't like narration either. I prefer to tell the story through dialog. But I am toying around with it because it allows exposition to be tossed out extremely fast in a somewhat natural way. If I have to use narration, I personally prefer to keep it as impersonal as possible; I absolutely can't stand character narration, especially in comics, because it just seems like the cheesiest thing in the world.
Take note that the next few pages will be the polar opposite, with the story being mostly told visually.
If I'm correct, then we're onto a new book with this chapter, so I think these are probably the few times when it does work out. This way you have an introduction into the new book for those who might have missed the last... But yeah... Latest page art is AMAZING! Looking forward to all the other amazing things that magick can do when implemented on a city scale.
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"after a while it feels small" isn't exactly the best way to sell yourself to the ladies, Glyph ;P
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"after a while it feels small" isn't exactly the best way to sell yourself to the ladies, Glyph ;P
+10 internets for Akashayi!
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"after a while it feels small" isn't exactly the best way to sell yourself to the ladies, Glyph ;P
Bern isn't into such things, if any big or small she would cut it off if Glyph would try something again.
May wouldn't mind if it's big or small, the technique is most important, beside she promised Bern, another to go from the list.
So the only one left who Glyph could impress is Crest?
Oh boy ;D
I hope they won't go for sandwich for lunch ;)
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I wonder why Bern is depressed now...
Hey! I have only one friend who "likes" the Flipside Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Flipside-Comics/). I could have sworn I'd friended more people from here.
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Maytag looks so pretty in the first panel. :-*
I love Maytag! :-*
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I wonder why Bern is depressed now...
Hey! I have only one friend who "likes" the Flipside Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Flipside-Comics/). I could have sworn I'd friended more people from here.
I have two friends that like it! :P But I thought I had friended you, Charles?
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Maybe Bern is going through a random sexual identity crisis? Or wants to make May happy so they'll have hot orgies with cute university girls?
Also... who would be the top, Glyph or Crest? o.O;
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I would say Glyph, Crest is not confident enough to be a "top"
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Wait, WHAT? What's with all the yaoi talk on all the comic threads I'm frequenting these last few days? GAH!
But yeah, Crest would totally be on bottom, for the exact reason Oddball mentioned. What? It's not like I've thought about it before. ::)
Also, considering only 234 people, myself included, "Like" the Flipside Facebook page, it's not all that surprising you don't have many friends who subscribe to it. Considering Flipside updates fairly predictably, it's not needed to know when a new page is out. I subscribe for things like notifications of the DnD Comic updates, voting incentive changes, and the occasional unrelated message from the author.
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You hear that Brion? Maybe you should put extra magical incentives on the Flipside facebook page.
..I liked it not for updates (I use rss feeds for that) but simply on the principle that I actually like Flipside.
and about Crest... yeah, you guys are totally right.
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You hear that Brion? Maybe you should put extra magical incentives on the Flipside facebook page.
..I liked it not for updates (I use rss feeds for that) but simply on the principle that I actually like Flipside.
and about Crest... yeah, you guys are totally right.
I used to hit "Like" on Facebook for anything I enjoyed. Then I realized that it was pointless unless I planned on going back to that page. I don't even know half the things Facebook says I like, because the things I like give me more to do than their pages on Facebook do. For instance, I am a big fan of Snafu Comics, so I Liked their fan page on Facebook. But I don't bother going to it anymore, because there's more to do by actually going to the comics themselves. Brion updates the Flipside Facebook page, so there's a point to Liking it. If the page just sat there doing nothing, I would probably Unlike it, ignore it, or not have Liked it in the first place. Not using the Facebook page for something doesn't mean you like the real thing any less.
That's why, these days, if I decide I love the cold side of the pillow at night, and I think my Facebook friends would like to know, I don't search for the Likable page "Cold Side of the Pillow". I just write, "I enjoy the cold side of the pillow. It's so lovely and comfy. Screw all you cold side haters!"
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Maybe Bern is going through a random sexual identity crisis? Or wants to make May happy so they'll have hot orgies with cute university girls?
Nah I don't want to see such cheap thing in Flipside comic, like Crest won't suddenly turn gay I think, so why Bern should turn out bisexual all of sudden, she is not a teenage kid, she's a full blown woman who knows what she likes.
As for second question if by any magic it would happen, it's obvious it would be Glyph, or maybe Crest would turn into predator beast, who knows :P
If any I would want to see that leader in which Bern fallen in love to appear to see how Bern would react
I rather think Bern is in overall depressed about what happened, she wasn't strong enough (again) to resist a spell and she cheated on May in her way of thinking, and it seems they didn't have any time alone to clear these things out, I think for Bern it's big case and she's just thinking about it too much, like she compared earlier her lie about loving that leader bandit with May constant cheating habit.
Plus she may see her father again, which too isn't easy for her, not mentioning whole town full of magic.
So yeah she seems to be in a pinch.
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I wonder why Bern is depressed now...
Hey! I have only one friend who "likes" the Flipside Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Flipside-Comics/). I could have sworn I'd friended more people from here.
I'll friend you, Charles! :D
I am Halim Lorette, BTW.
Also, I already "likes" Flipside I think. :D
EDIT: Yeah, I checked. I do already "likes" it, but I couldn't find you. What's your last name?
EDIT2: Clearly, Crest is the bottom in any Crest/Glyph pairing. And he wears a catboy outfit. :P :-[ :-*
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I would friend you all, but I'm not on Facebook.
And Crest is fun to tease. At the latest since this: http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=813
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Well, I now like it as well.
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Maytag is also super cute on this page too. And yay for plot development. :D
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Holy shit, I just realized, Eschelon is totally run by Ramuh.
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Holy shit, I just realized, Eschelon is totally run by Ramuh.
YEEESSSSS! ;D
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Ohhhh! The old man is secretly an old softy! How cute! :-*
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I forgot to shade him on Monday's page, but the old man is actually supposed to be dark skinned. It's fixed now.
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I meant his personality, not his skin colour, but whatevs. :-\
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Hey! The picture of the fairy in panel one of page 12. Is that supposed to be of this: http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/book0/fs09pg06.html
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I don't like this Bell women. She seems like a bureaucratic person to me.
"It's save because we always did it." I don't like this attitude.
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Yes, she's a bureaucrat and a snob. She needs a good slap or two. Bern has some VERY valid reasons to be suspicious of sorcery and all things that go with it. The "bath" incident is high on the list. Ramuh had exactly the right approach. Besides, memory scans usually work best when the subject is at ease.
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Oh, I love that old man! He's so sweet. And his minion is stupid. She completely missed the point. That point being that Bernadette was concerned that reading her thoughts was a violation of her privacy. She need the pep talk to get on board. Talk about insensitive. :(
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Oh Noes! Bern's memory scan is taking so long, it's stalling the comic... Are they defragging her brain? AAAAHHHH!!!!!
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Oh Noes! Bern's memory scan is taking so long, it's stalling the comic... Are they defragging her brain? AAAAHHHH!!!!!
Brion's just not feeling well. Got a bit of Shell-rot in his tail, but he's hopefully feeling better soon.
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Oh Noes! Bern's memory scan is taking so long, it's stalling the comic... Are they defragging her brain? AAAAHHHH!!!!!
They found out Bernadette is the Thin Man.
Brion's just not feeling well. Got a bit of Shell-rot, but he's hopefully feeling better soon.
Get well soon, Brion.
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Hmmm that would be a BIG twist finding out that Bern is the Thin Man all this time :-\
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Yeah, cause she's not a man, and not too thin either. ;D
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Hah. Next we'll find out that Glyph is was once a woman.
I mean, you can't really tell just from this picture:
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=839
;P
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As for Maytags todays "New Costume Design":
[mode="Umber"]What happened to the cleavage (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=181)?[/mode]
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Get well soon Brion. And don't die ;)
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Get well soon Brion. And don't die ;)
Yes, please. We're getting quite worried.
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I'm alive! new page, see? Also, I am thinking about trying to make up the pages I missed, but we'll have to see how it goes...
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Good to see you back up and around again Brion :)
But: OOOOOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are we going to see May's arm hacked off so her left arm can be re-grown? ;D ;D
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Welcome back Brion!
Heh, if it's so easy to regrow every part of the body then it gives a nice feature to abuse main character in future who may loose some limbs again since everything may be fixed...
Also May's missing finger too will regrow?
She will loose her love reminder ;)
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Welcome back Brion!
Heh, if it's so easy to regrow every part of the body then it gives a nice feature to abuse main character in future who may loose some limbs again since everything may be fixed...
Also May's missing finger too will regrow?
She will loose her love reminder ;)
Well, since her missing finger is(Was?) on the right side, it's already gone(though the digestive tract, or what's left of it, of bloody mary) and since they are re-growing the arm by mirroring the uninjured left side, unless she speaks up, she'll most likely have her finger back.
Unless the finger missing is on her left side, in which case, she might end up with TWO missing fingers.
Also, we won't have to remind brion about the missing arm, which is generally meant to be missing, but sometimes isn't.
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Good to see Brion is back.
But: OOOOOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are we going to see May's arm hacked off so her left arm can be re-grown? ;D ;D
Heh. That would be a trip. "Yes, to duplicate the missing arm, we'll need to temporarily remove the remaining arm. Nothing to worry about though, she will be comfortably under an anti-pain spell the whole time."
I think Bern might be a bit uncomfortable with the process. :D
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Why she's not getting operated on...................or is she? :'(
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Why she's not getting operated on...................or is she? :'(
All things Sorcery bother Bern.
And it seems Ms. Bureaucrat isn't a total tool after all.
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Why she's not getting operated on...................or is she? :'(
All things Sorcery bother Bern.
And it seems Ms. Bureaucrat isn't a total tool after all.
Living and working where she does, she's probably never met anyone with such an aversion to all things magical. That would make it hard for her to see it from Bern's perspective. Combine that with an all-business attitude, and her demeanor kind of makes sense.
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Two things! YAY NEW ARM! FINALLY!
Thanks for not dying Brion!
And third, creepy healer guy is creepy. I bet he's the thin man.
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That Bern is prudish even to the point of disliking nudity with doctors is a little surprising.
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Bernadette - always thinks sex when she sees female skin.
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Bern did not mention sex (on screen) at all. She merely asked if it was necessary. Considering that the chest is an universally recognized erogenous zone on women, and Maytag will be operated on by a male doctor, it IS a valid concern. Thankfully, the woman in glasses recognizes this.
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I'm glad Bern is still herself.
After everything she gone through by magic so far it's no wonder she could become even more paranoid.
Really it's scary seeing it from Bern perspective what magic can do with normal people and you can't do anything against it.
If Bern would be put under Fata's illusions she would never escape it, not mentioning bath incident where she acted against her sexuality and was almost violated, or how Suspiria raped her mentally with truth spell.
I really hope Bern will get in future some means of defence/resistance against magic.
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Bern's lines were so inspiring and heartfelt on page 17! :D
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I guess bitchy wizard woman is not that bad. Although Bernedette doesn't look 100% convinced.
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Dont worry she always looks like that
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Bern's lines were so inspiring and heartfelt on page 17! :D
Um, but Bern doesn't have any lines on page 17...?
Did you mean Bell? (The glasses sorceress)
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I think that was sarcasm ;P
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You think? I dunno...
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Well, she said "Hm...?" in panel three. I thought it was well done. ;)
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I'm glad Bern is still herself.
After everything she gone through by magic so far it's no wonder she could become even more paranoid.
Really it's scary seeing it from Bern perspective what magic can do with normal people and you can't do anything against it.
If Bern would be put under Fata's illusions she would never escape it, not mentioning bath incident where she acted against her sexuality and was almost violated, or how Suspiria raped her mentally with truth spell.
I really hope Bern will get in future some means of defence/resistance against magic.
This was the whole point of getting the other sword, wasn't it? Or am I forgetting exactly how that was supposed to work?
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Oh...the meganekko's name is Bell, huh...
It coulda been Quistis xD
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Bernadette - always thinks sex when she sees female skin.
Well... In her defence, Bern's experience with quite a number of sorcerers and magick generally leads her to think of them as perverted. Glyph catching an eye-full, Suspira viewing Maytag naked for art, Voulger and Derrick's attempted rape and the whole spa bath event with Danzig possessing Glyph to have sex with her under the influence of enchantment.
I half get the impression that Bell's response to the question even suggests that she's well aware of a number of sorcerers who would get women to remove their clothes for magick procedures when it isn't necessary or helpful.
On a side note. The entire idea of how the flesh is being grown as a mirror copy fasinates me. I'm even tempted to wonder if Bloody Mary's old body, and unadjusted brain, still exist somewhere. I'm almost certain that this information will come into play later. Probably covering the idea of creating alternate limbs and attaching them as well. This almost appears to be what happened in Bloody Mary's case, considering her lower half and arms were missing in one of the images of the few memories whe retains.
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, one of Bloody Mary's flashbacks includes a scene (in "Thin Man's" lab) where her brain is ripped out of her body, or somebody's brain is.
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SO that's who the "Thin Man" is!!!! :o It's Steve Martin in the Man with two brains!!!!! :o ;) ;D
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Hmm that was quick, glad to see May in one piece again.
Also a bit of daaaw :-* at the scene between Bern and May.
I don't think that original Mary body remains anymore, her brain was changed permanently so even if they would change her body it won't make her situation better, since they don't know how the Thin man did that, that's why they needed Mary brain to check for details.
They can make new body but they can't transform one self from one brain to another.
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... in any case...
HUZZAH MAY HAS HER ARM BACK!!!! I'm so happy! Break out the drinks, let's celebrate!
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...
thank God that's over! :D
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awww. I was hoping to see the arm forming a bit more. Or maybe even the re-attachment... INTERMISSION SCENE!!!
@Brion: Seriously. How bloody happy are you to never have to worry about forgetting that arm or finger again?
...you watch, now you'll forget to include it *PMSL*
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Don't say that! If we sound too grateful that the arm is back he'll take it away again! :(
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So... no cyberpunk arm cannon with chainsaw fingers?
I am disappoint.
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Hey guys! I'm new so sorry if this post may be a little strange....just dont mind me I'm losing my post virginity!
I personally think that while the art is incredible and is definately pushing the limits I have to say I'm getting a bit dissapointed with the plot. Maytag was an interesting character until she attempted to sleep with Crest that she turned monogomous which really I think ruined her character. I am it happens (and don't think that it confirms that I am a pervert despite me being a fan of flipside alond with this particular webcomic) I am a fan of Yu + Me which is chock full of Lesbianism that it is a little tiring. When Flipside has a lot of this I thinlk that it ruins it. I think personally that it would be a little more interesting if Maytag was a little more promiscuous.
Just the opinion of a n00b thats all....
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so since the arm has come back are we going to see anything else get hacked off?
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So... no cyberpunk arm cannon with chainsaw fingers?
I am disappoint.
a la Machine Girl? :P
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Well, I'm glad somebody remembered that KIN DIED! To be fair though, I don't think Bern, Maytag, or Crest were officially invited to the funeral though.
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Raise your hand if you thought "Wait, whose funeral?" and then felt bad after reading the rest of the page. *Raises hand.*
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Not me, but only because I read these comments on this forum before I read the new update. :P Lols!
Also, Glyph looks pretty adorable here. Really well drawn page.
Webcomic-time is a trip! It's like seeing the lives of other people if their time elapsed even slower then ours does. In most media it's the other way around, you watch vast sections of the character's life happen as you read for a few hours or whatever. But in webcomics, your own life can progress faster then the character's as you wait for updates. Not that I'm complaining, just that it weirds me out sometimes. :-\ :D
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I just remembered that kin dying made me a little sad -.-
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just had one of my Odd's thoughts......................could they not re-animate Kin? or am I just having caffine withdrawl
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just had one of my Odd's thoughts......................could they not re-animate Kin? or am I just having caffine withdrawl
Only in certain cases, and only if the brain is completely intact. I think this is mentioned somewhere, I forget where... probably in one of the intermissions.
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I'm a bit surprised that Glyph is the guy taking care of the speech, is this somekind of favor towards Suspiria, for sure they know each other well?
Glyph, apart of his perverted ways, seems to be a good guy, now I have dilemma if I ship Suspiris x Glyph more than Crest x Suspiria after seeing this page.
Also I wonder if Suspiria will break up crying next page.
And of course girls talk about plastic surgery...
Does mages burn the body or they put it in the proper grave?
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Nice speech, Glyph. Very moving. :)
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Poor Kin. He's dead now. Sad.
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I agree with Glyph,
I wanted to get to know kin better too.
We're getting a whole lot of new characters now though, it seems.
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I agree with Glyph,
I wanted to get to know kin better too.
We're getting a whole lot of new characters now though, it seems.
Don't worry... only a few of them will be major characters. Gonna continue the trend of keeping the centralized cast low.
There will be a ton-load of new minor characters, though.
You probably already know who will be on the cover of Book 5... see if you can guess who'll be on 6? (I just decided it a little while ago!)
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just had one of my Odd's thoughts......................could they not re-animate Kin? or am I just having caffine withdrawl
There's also the matter of Mary's poison in his system. (She did scratch his leg before literally pounding his skull in.) It's amazing that there's a corpse to view at all.
And yes, Glyph is showing himself to have much more depth than just "pervert man."
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What's missing is Enginnering Officer Scott playing Amazing Grace or Flowers of the forest on the bagpipes in the last few panels.
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My only comment on page 21:
That's... interesting. ???
It kinda looks like their catapulting him into the sky. No offense mr.Brian, really. It just freaked me out kinda.
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So they float the corpse into the atmosphere. That's... weird.
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Do they lift him high enough so that when they finally let him loose he will burn up in the atmosphere?
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Well it's good that he is already dead, because I am pretty sure he would freeze to death before that if he wasn't.
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Well it's good that he is already dead, because I am pretty sure he would freeze to death before that if he wasn't.
Better than suffocating in a coffin.
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OOOOH! That ties into one of my biggest fears. That I will somehow go on being conscious once I am a corpse. And be perfectly aware as they remove my dumbass organ donor insides and either bury me or set my body on fire in the process of cremation. "The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out..." doesn't sound like a fun way to spend an afternoon. :(
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just think he would freeze in the upper atmosphere then burn up :-\
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NEWSFLASH!
That's what I just said.
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If you give seymor from ff10 a run for his money in terms of hairstyle then it's better for you to go.
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What's missing is Enginnering Officer Scott playing Amazing Grace or Flowers of the forest on the bagpipes in the last few panels.
Actually, first song that came to my mind was "Up, up and away."
Up, up and away. In my beautiful, my beautiful, my beautiful well-dressed corpse!
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It just reminded me of Star Trek: Wrath of Khan when Mr Spock gets launched in a torpedo at the end of the film.
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ITS A DEAD MANS PARTY
WHO COULD ASK FOR MORE
EVERYBODY'S COMING
LEAVE YOUR BODY AT THE DOOR! ;D
Looks like Crest might be getting cock-blocked by Glyph now! Oh Crest! Will you ever learn!
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Oh, make Crest act a a guy once!
So he would step in and would say they will take care of Suspiria tonight :D
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Glyph's actually being a decent bloke. Who'd have thunk it? Furthermore, Suspira's already been asked to join them at their bedroom(s). It's up to her to accept the invite. Anything Crest does right now would just push her away.
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Suspira looks kind of pissed off. I wonder what she's going to say...
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Aww, Suspi. I still feel sorry for her, it's understandable she's behaving like that, she's just lost Kin.
As for Glyph, I'm starting to like him. c:
(And angry nameless girl with the big hair is cute. <3 )
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Her name is Moby.
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Since we all ready have "Ness" why not: Tay, Spey or Tweed? :)
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The guy's name is Smokey, right?
Ouch Glyph, you should be a bit more considerate here.
Seems other from the pack didn't like Suspi too much(knowing Suspi she was an arrogant genius kid before all the time).
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So that Moby girl is a KISS fan right? :P
This strip is rather shocking. Suspira's behavior can be real unpredictable. :-\
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"Impulsive" is the word I would have chosen, and now that she's actually "Home" and can focus on her mourning, the mood swings will only become more violent.
Poor Crest. I pity him. He VOLUNTEERED to "put up with her."
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Glyph is acting just as unpredictably. Where was all this high-minded-empathy when he was spying on the girls through their clothing.
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just had one of my Odd's thoughts......................could they not re-animate Kin? or am I just having caffine withdrawl
There's also the matter of Mary's poison in his system. (She did scratch his leg before literally pounding his skull in.) It's amazing that there's a corpse to view at all.
And yes, Glyph is showing himself to have much more depth than just "pervert man."
Thats a good point about Mary's poison destroying Kin's body, but I'd hazard a guess that Suspira probably removed the poison the next day after she'd recovered, much like she did with Bern. While it obviously takes some effort, it can't be too much considering she could still launch some serious level 3 fire spells and the "meteor drop" among other spells.
I'm glad to see Glyph has a bit more depth as well, but I hope he doesn't drift too far from the "cool pervert" Glyph we were promised. He appears to be taking the position of "most popular on campus" but without being a total dick like most people who take that stance (Moby appears to have that role though).
...I wonder if we'll be meeting Lana any time soon.
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Glyph was angry now two times one when he was accused he enjoyed 'raping' Bern in the bath and now this thing about Suspiria.
It will be interesting who real Glyph really is, a pervert who thinks with his little head or a compassionate guy.
Maybe we will learn something about his past, maybe he too lost someone close to him/or that person was raped for example.
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Glyph seems to be Crest's opposite in a lot of aspects.
...you know. Something just occurred to me. I kept wondering what significance the Thin Man's confiscation of Maytag D-bag could mean. Obviously it powers Maytag down significantly in the present and means that Brion can make a new uniform for Maytag. At first I just figured that the Thin Man would use the money or sell a lot of the expensive items and other things to fund his work. Then I figured there had to be something more to it the Brion might use later and I think I just figured out what might be significant later on.
Maytag had a potion of possession in her D-Bag and its specially made from her spirit essence.
Not sure if there's a limit on the range of a potion of possession or certain other things the posessor has to do, but I wonder if the Thin Man could feed it to someone and force Maytag to appear, or if he could create a clone of Maytag and feed her Spirit Essence into it. Could be interesting to see a new, under-powered Maytag VS a clone Maytag. I guess the clone would use Maytag's 2nd costume which is probably in her D-Bag together with all her other "powered" items.
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/book0/fs12pg11.html
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I don't usually like Bernadette, but she is REAL pretty in the last panel. :-*
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So the father sword hunt starts.
At least it seems that is what Bern wants to ask Glyph about, well they really need a guide, and Suspi is out currently.
I wonder if any other character from these 3 around Glyph will join our little adventurers group.
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Bern, sweetie. When a man kisses your hand, in many cultures, it is the highest form of praise and etiquette. Slapping him was wildly inappropriate. The statement about not wanting to be touched was far more than sufficient.
Then again, since it is hard to determine inflection and sarcasm while reading speech bubbles, Bern could just be "playing hard to get." :o
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Teheheheh, I love Bern. <3 Poor Glyph though, he didn't really deserve that slap.
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Bern, sweetie. When a man kisses your hand, in many cultures, it is the highest form of praise and etiquette. Slapping him was wildly inappropriate. The statement about not wanting to be touched was far more than sufficient.
Then again, since it is hard to determine inflection and sarcasm while reading speech bubbles, Bern could just be "playing hard to get." :o
If Bern didn't change her sexuality as we weren't looking, then I can understand her slapping a guy who acted so pervy around her earlier and now suddenly kissing her like that from nowhere, maybe there's different etiquette here in Eschelon compared to place they were earlier and this surprised her completely.
Or Bern didn't even been considering herself as a woman who may be courted like that by someone.
If we look at her previous experience in love she was always the one who initiated things.
But really maybe Bern has now a phobia of men touching her (no surprise here, since most of the guys wanted to rape her so far) or she still is really uncomfortable about Glyph of what could happen in the bath and resent him internally?
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I just suddenly realised... Bern is wearing a dress. Has she ever done that before?
I'm guessing its a bit of formality for Kin's funeral
...So had he finished that picture of Maytag? I remember him working on it a bit more after she left to check on Bern but the next thing I knew Maytag had heard he was dead and was crying that he'd never get to finish it.
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I just suddenly realised... Bern is wearing a dress. Has she ever done that before?
I noticed that too. I don't think she's ever been seen in a dress before, hope she keeps it up!
Looking back at the attendees, it does seem all the women are wearing dresses, page 20 (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=1042), 21 (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=1043). Moby and her friend also appear to be wearing dresses. My thought was that it might be traditional for women to wear a dress at a funeral.
Back to Moss and Fata Morgana. I'm really liking them together so I hope we see more of what they're up to now.
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holy shit, she is wearing a dress. How did I not notice that? That's a trip
Back to Moss and Fata Morgana. I'm really liking them together so I hope we see more of what they're up to now.
I would guess... Mischief. ;P
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God I hate those two. I find them so... Boooooring.
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I wonder what Fata will pick next... I'm thinking Bern and then Bern will be arrested for something Fata has done *shrug*
...Or Bern's father will spot Fata in his daughter's image. From memory, Brion once mentioned that Bern and her father are quite similar to look upon (same hair with red and white), so even though he hasn't seen her for years, its likely he'd recognise her. If Fata read Bern's memory then its also likely that Fata would know about him... or that the reason her and Moss are there is to seek him out since they know its what Bern and Maytag were travelling there for.
Yeah, I don't know what it is but Bern looks quite nice in a dress. Maybe it's just something different. I'm sure we'd think a common character would look good in trousers and such if they'd been known to only wear a dress.
COMPLAINT: We get back to Maytag's old costume with the "cute cleavage" AND ITS COVERED UP BY SPEECH BUBBLES IN EVERY PANEL!!! *cry* ::) :P
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COMPLAINT: We get back to Maytag's old costume with the "cute cleavage" AND ITS COVERED UP BY SPEECH BUBBLES IN EVERY PANEL!!! *cry* ::) :P
Right? Brion, you tease!
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Some indication of what Maytag's next costume might be like:
Chapter 4, Page 23 - UMBER: "For the next outfit, I expect something slinkier, sweets. Show off that irresistable body of yours!
MAYTAG: "Hehe, allrighty, I promise!"
Then again, we know a promise for Maytag is just a show of good intentions, so its a promise she might break to be a bit more conservative for Bern's sake.
Still... i have this image in my head of the next suit being a two piece, cutting out the mid-section. That'll turn some heads *LOL*
Depending on how much money she has (or good will from the phalanx) she could get one with some pretty serious magickal enhancements considering she's in the main city to buy/order such stuff.
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COMPLAINT: We get back to Maytag's old costume with the "cute cleavage" AND ITS COVERED UP BY SPEECH BUBBLES IN EVERY PANEL!!! *cry* ::) :P
Right? Brion, you tease!
*meh* its not as bad as what he did back in THIS PAGE (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=951) *lol*
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Just had an even more evil thought.
Fata appears to Maytag as Bern and manages to fool her unlike her attempt as Regina. If Fata really did have the time to read Bern's memories, then she'd have an easier time of pretending to be her. They have sex and Bern walks in on them, just in time for Fata to change the image so Bern sees Maytag with Fata (or someone else) and doesn't realise that Maytag has been fooled.
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I really don't like Bern in a dress, she just look so plain and common, her normal clothing style is really more interesting and suits her better.
Well I don't see a reason why Fata would want to fool May again, earlier she did that for experiment, but now?
Maybe she might hold some grudge that May saw through her illusion and will want to get her back at that.
And suppose there's no better way than having her cheat on Bern, or even better have Bern cheat on May, like for example Fata would disguise herself as that black hair mercenary leader which Bern loved at some point which she would know from her memories.
That's something I want to see in future how Bern would react if that woman would try to hit on her, maybe she still has that unrequited love feeling hidden deep inside.
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Fata Morgana couldn't crack Maytag. That means Maytag might be a good candidate for Dark Cell, whatever that is. It could be that Fata wishes to test her further to see if she can be cracked or if she's, without a doubt, the one to take it on. Moss doesn't have Seraph's or the Thin Man's notes and research. He was hoping the Thin Man could remove his curse. Its hard to say if he betrayed Danzig because he was pissed off at never meeting the Thin Man, or if he has a plan and possibly stole something from Danzig or plans to follow and use Maytag because of her possible ability to enter Dark Cell.
I think Bern's dress is just for the Funeral. They all seem to have work fairly plain, light-coloured clothing for it.
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Back to Moss and Fata Morgana. I'm really liking them together so I hope we see more of what they're up to now.
I would guess... Mischief. ;P
Prepare for trouble. Make it double!
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I'd thought about her making fake cash and the like, but even though the "solid illusions" trick appears to be unique to her, you'd think that shops, in and around Eschelon, would have detectors or cash boxes that dispell magick in case other sorcerers try to put illusions on normal bits of metal, wood or rock to pass them off as coins.
I guess there are those who can't afford it so maybe they just look out for such stores.
Still no idea who's face is going to be on Flipside, Book 6. Glyph is almost certainly Book 5. Moss does seem to be showing up a bit more so its probably him. Yeah, put me down for $20 on Moss ;)
EDIT: Easy check for concerned store owners, I guess, would be to bite and/or taste the coin. I'm sure that good sorcerers could also put on some kind of metalic taste spell and a hardening spell for wood but it'd catch the noobs.
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Yup. Still hate them. They steal lunch at restaurants. A classy duo, that.
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Fata and Moss were ugly looking people
But I can tell you people
They were the devil's children
Fata and Moss began their evil doing
One lazy night together in Danzig's keep
They kidnapped Maytag and
tested her for Dark Cell
Got clean away through a portal
And waited till the others arived
Fata and Moss advanced their reputation
And made the graduation
Into the petty theft
"Suffer and die" foul-talking Moss would holler
As Fata sorcered Maytag in the castle bath
Now uncle Danzig tried to keep 'em at home
They left him bleeding and asleep with Phalanx
And laughed about it all the way to Eschelon.
Fata and Moss got to the outer city and begun their crime
cheating and stealing
From every Eschelon diner that had pickles
They used to laugh about torture
But deep inside 'em they knew
That in the coming future
they'd make Maytag suffer
Pushing up toe nails or
tormentin' her psyche
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Yup. Still hate them. They steal lunch at restaurants. A classy duo, that.
Actually, the crimes are petit theft and criminal impersonation.
In effect, she's stealing Maytag's good name as well as stealing lunch.
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The only mercy is that they didn't get caught. They may be playing fast and loose with Maytag's reputation, but the effects of this crime are likely to go unnoticed and unreported (the shopkeep wasn't looking ect.) But just because they won't get caught doesn't mean their unconcern for Maytag isn't kind of sad. :(
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Interesting. So they're unaware of Fata Morgana and Moss' betrayal... Or at least, Melter isn't telling the Thin Man about it.
By the way the Thin Man speaks (presuming that is him) I'm now fairly certain that it isn't Shepard. I am curious about his interest in Fata Morgana though. He does seem to have a thing for the young girls, as these tend to be his favorite experimental subjects, and Fata was the only girl on Danzig's team. But maybe her ability stems not from a curse or training, but because she's also a former subject... Then again, the relationship could be closer.
Ok, we're jumping around where everyone is from the last book but I'm predicting we switch to Bloody Mary for the last page and find out what she's up to since she was headed for Eschelon last time we heard.
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By the way the Thin Man speaks (presuming that is him) I'm now fairly certain that it isn't Shepard. I am curious about his interest in Fata Morgana though. He does seem to have a thing for the young girls, as these tend to be his favorite experimental subjects, and Fata was the only girl on Danzig's team. But maybe her ability stems not from a curse or training, but because she's also a former subject... Then again, the relationship could be closer.
Speaking of former subjects, I always remember when Maytag sees the pictures of girls that were possible victims of the Thin Man (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=946). The dark-haired girl she stops to look at reminds me of a young Umber (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=224).
Could Umber have been a victim? It seems unlikely but would be pretty interesting!
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If Umber would be Thin Man previous subject and her job was to spy/occupy May attention then I would be pretty sad, meaning she was betraying May from start, well we really don't know how far Thin Man plan and reach goes in reality.
Maybe Fata is Thin Man pupil and double agent(being a spy both in Danzig and now Moss teams), she goes with Moss but she's not his truly ally.
Also didn't Melter did something to Suspiria earlier?
I would love to see our main villain face in next page or at least some outline.
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Hard to say. There's a lot to happen in Eschelon already. I think we might see the Thin Man revealed at the very end of this "book" with a setup for him to act in the next one. I'm expecting Melter to possibly reveal himself some more first and some information to come from Danzig and the castle.
There's Bern's father to find. Then discussion and stuff with him. The girl Suspira turned blue and bald (Lana) will likely turn up and I'm half guessing that Dice might also show her face here and maybe give Suspira a run for her money on Crest's affections. All this while Moss and Fata continue to make mischief and Bloody Mary gets ever closer to Eschelon.
I also seem to recall mention of the conclave which is presently a member short. I'm certain there's a story behind that.
But damn! I'm hoping there's some epic level sorcery battle in all of this somewhere.
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Well, certainly puts the whole "Melter is the Thin Man" speculation to rest unless "Thin Man" is the name of the organization and not the leader. Danzig's group seems to be a splinter organization.
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When Danzig mentioned Maytag resisting a spell, Melter wasn't that interested in her then. She didn't do anything beyond that, just seeing Fata was tricking her into offering sex and turning her down. Given the situation in where something was obviously going down, I don't know what high value this gives her, by figuring out something wasn't right and not going along with it. Maybe because she's adaptable under pressure.
I guess Suspiria not make the cut? Or maybe Melter got whatever he wanted out of her while they were alone.
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When Danzig mentioned Maytag resisting a spell, Melter wasn't that interested in her then. She didn't do anything beyond that, just seeing Fata was tricking her into offering sex and turning her down.
I think the spell she resisted was Danzigs bath tube spell.
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When Melter first visited, he probably only had a priliminary report on the group. Age, sex, name, knowledge of any capability including sorcery. Maytag's assessment for Dark Cell, most likely, wasn't finished and the main thing Melter knew when getting there was that a young, level 3 sorceress was available. I'd say they probably don't get too many candidates who are both young females AND level 3 sorcerers. There's also the matter that Suspira is a Genius and I'd easily presume that the Thin Man and Melter keep a track of those out there, particularly a level 3 one which is apparently quite rare.
Its possible that Danzig had managed to send in an updated report on the group, particularly on Maytag and her resistance to the bath spell, together with her successful assessment for Dark Cell, before he was overthrown and arrested.
However, I'm thinking that the Thin Man may have recognised Maytag's name when Melter told him, and its possible that The Thin Man hadn't read the report yet, waiting for Melter to filter candicates and present them to him after full processing. By the end of this book the Thin Man should almost certainly be revealed, probably with Maytag in his clutches and a ready introduction for Dark Cell.
Hopefully we get a big-ass sorcery battle somewhere in there.
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I still suspect that Shepard is the Thin Man. I mean, just look at the guy:
(http://www.flipsidecomics.com/int-unk.gif)
...Well, maybe not. But it is interesting that Maytag is named as the high value target and not Suspiria, especially the way Melter acted back at Danzig's castle. So how does the Thin Man know about Maytag?
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Shepard being the Thin Man would be the most obvious choice.
But maybe he is just his servant like Melter.
Well at least in this chapter we should have May kidnapped, then Bern should get her swords back, meet with father, and form a group which would go to save May, while May would perfectly join with Dark Cell and gain nice new power without any negative drawbacks like Mary.
But how Bern & co would find the Thin man base is beyond me, maybe they could read Danzig memories for clues...
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Ah, I'd forgotten about the bath spell scene! I do also agree that the Thin Man seemed to recognize Maytag's name.
I don't know about Shepard being the Thin Man, but I DO know that Shepard is actually Vajra!
Observe -
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4396/intunk.gif) + (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2166/intvajra.gif) = (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6826/overlayg.png)
;)
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Ah, I'd forgotten about the bath spell scene! I do also agree that the Thin Man seemed to recognize Maytag's name.
I don't know about Shepard being the Thin Man, but I DO know that Shepard is actually Vajra!
Observe -
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4396/intunk.gif) + (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2166/intvajra.gif) = (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6826/overlayg.png)
;)
Now that's just creepy, but an excellent use of disguise!
As for Thin Man knowing Maytag, one of his earlier "recruits" was Regina, The Manslayer, who knew Maytag and Bern (and was defeated by them.) The Thin Man is clearly tracking his experiments somehow.
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As for Thin Man knowing Maytag, one of his earlier "recruits" was Regina, The Manslayer, who knew Maytag and Bern (and was defeated by them.) The Thin Man is clearly tracking his experiments somehow.
...do you mean Clairen the Man-Eater?
(http://www.flipsidecomics.com/int-clairen.jpg)
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As for Thin Man knowing Maytag, one of his earlier "recruits" was Regina, The Manslayer, who knew Maytag and Bern (and was defeated by them.) The Thin Man is clearly tracking his experiments somehow.
...do you mean Clairen the Man-Eater?
(http://www.flipsidecomics.com/int-clairen.jpg)
Yes, I do. Sorry, am terrible with names. Especially from characters who died a long time ago both comic and real world time.