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Title: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: tbeean on May 30, 2010, 12:34:01 pm
What are your thoughts?

1st Circle: Unbaptized people and pagans
2nd Circle: Those who are overcome with lust/the need to have sex 24/7/365
3rd Circle: Gluttons/people who eat 24/7/365
4th Circle: Those who spend a shit load of money on shit they don't need
5th Circle: The ones consumed with rage fight on the surface of the River Styx (greek mythology) and the slothful/ones who are lazy lie beneath the water
6th Circle: Heretics
7th Circle: The violent; the 7th Circle has 3 inner Circles
The Outermost Circle: Those who are violent against property and inanimate objects
The Middle Circle: Suicides
The Innermost Circle: Those who are violent against God, nature, and/or art
8th Circle: Frauds (seducers, flatterers, those who exchange money for spiritual goods, sorcerers/false prophets, corrupt politicians, hypocrites, thieves, sowers of discord, etc.)
9th Circle: Those who betray one who is close to them (i.e. a close/best friend, a relative, a lover)
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Churba on May 30, 2010, 12:38:59 pm
So, did you read the book, or play the game?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: tbeean on May 30, 2010, 12:44:25 pm
neither  :P i think it was a completely unrelated google result.

if only fictional ideas about hell were true. but you could say the same about the bible  :P
i just find this a little more comforting to think about than the whole you're going to hell. full stop. xD
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on May 30, 2010, 02:09:40 pm
where do stoner horny teenagers go though?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on May 30, 2010, 02:10:37 pm
2nd circle first door on the right.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Churba on May 30, 2010, 03:43:26 pm
where do stoner horny teenagers go though?
Well, hopefully you'd end up with a lot more on your dance card by the time it became an issue. Most likely you'd go to Gluttony, as it's a "Deeper" circle than Lust, and you are always punished for your worst crime, according to the divine comedy.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on May 30, 2010, 03:55:37 pm
Well, either I'd land squarely in the 8th circle as an apostle of Chaos undivided or I'd walk straight through the pearly gates for the way I lead my life and my chaotic tendencies are recognised as part of my gaming hobby. :P
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on May 30, 2010, 04:27:04 pm
I'm a good little Odd and stay on the first circle.............but will probably be dragged into some of the others  :-\.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on May 30, 2010, 04:46:38 pm
where do stoner horny teenagers go though?
Well, hopefully you'd end up with a lot more on your dance card by the time it became an issue. Most likely you'd go to Gluttony, as it's a "Deeper" circle than Lust, and you are always punished for your worst crime, according to the divine comedy.

i guess so but what if regardless of the hunger of the marijuana i didnt eat too much and by horny i meant i have horns (so i fit in)?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Churba on May 30, 2010, 05:21:07 pm
where do stoner horny teenagers go though?
Well, hopefully you'd end up with a lot more on your dance card by the time it became an issue. Most likely you'd go to Gluttony, as it's a "Deeper" circle than Lust, and you are always punished for your worst crime, according to the divine comedy.

i guess so but what if regardless of the hunger of the marijuana i didnt eat too much and by horny i meant i have horns (so i fit in)?
Well, gluttony for Weed is still gluttony - it's not confined to food.

As for your wordplay, I'll give you 5/10 for effort, but you need to work on it. You've got potential, we'll sort you out yet.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on May 30, 2010, 05:23:52 pm
sorry im exhausted or i would have been wittier and its not gluttony if its only used when you get the chance and not the urge
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on May 30, 2010, 09:45:24 pm
I'd be in the 5th, since I haven't gotten to the 7th level yet (no violence with my rage).

Thoughts on the hells? Pretty weaksauce.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on May 31, 2010, 08:10:56 am
I have to agree with CDSM, it feels as if the hells are a bit tame compared to the fictional environments existing just an icon away, or a video remote.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on May 31, 2010, 10:43:52 am
well if you have ever heard of the legend of siphyulus (if thats how you spell it), he was sent to hell and his task was to push a heavy bouler t the top of a mountain but everytime it got there, it just rolled downed the other side. personally i would not like to do a useless task for all eternty haha
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on May 31, 2010, 10:53:21 am
It feels as if that's almost what I'm doing every day at work...
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on May 31, 2010, 10:54:14 am
Well you are knee deep in it  Emp :P
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on May 31, 2010, 11:05:58 am
Well, last tuesday that was neck-deep... the drains on our reed beds are breaking and allowing the sludge to force the grit and gravel intended to keep the sludge in place down into the drain pipes and go all the way back into the plant and screwing up the treatment process...

Guess who had to put on wading boots, rubber jacket, and use electric tape to seal the gloves to the jacket and go down into the dug hole to fix it...
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on May 31, 2010, 06:00:57 pm
the guy you hired for that?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Churba on May 31, 2010, 06:26:43 pm
the guy you hired for that?
Exactly - And EMP is that guy.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on May 31, 2010, 10:10:44 pm
alright good, ive got some drain problems i could use some help with

no im kidding, im sure i would hire someone much less fun to do it if i did though
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Pozf on June 01, 2010, 05:04:29 am
well if you have ever heard of the legend of siphyulus (if thats how you spell it), he was sent to hell and his task was to push a heavy bouler t the top of a mountain but everytime it got there, it just rolled downed the other side. personally i would not like to do a useless task for all eternty haha

That's kind of what the hoarders and squanders do in the 4th.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: charles on June 01, 2010, 06:09:49 am
I'll make it into... actually I'm not sure I made it into any circle... Damn! It's a shit load easier to go to stay out of hell than I thought.

OH NO! I SWORE!

*burns*
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on June 01, 2010, 07:13:45 am
Well after burning our retinas out wi' some o' your photos Charles you can hardly stay out of the Circles lol
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 01, 2010, 03:16:06 pm
im sure there is a special circle for us flipsiders
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: akashayi on June 02, 2010, 12:28:57 am
im sure there is a special circle for us flipsiders

a special extra sexy circle
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on June 02, 2010, 02:14:01 am
How do we know that we are not in it now?!?!  :'(
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 02, 2010, 03:31:13 pm
because in hell, brion would always be delaying the next page and we would have nothing to do in the meantime
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: akashayi on June 02, 2010, 04:34:23 pm
No, Brion's more the type that I figure we'd be playing strip poker while waiting.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on June 02, 2010, 04:42:33 pm
Thats why we have a jello strip twister game going.  ;D
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 02, 2010, 05:29:15 pm
hmm you guys sure make hell sound fun!
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on June 03, 2010, 03:22:49 am
Yeah well the other place is a bit dull  :-\
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 03, 2010, 06:22:26 am
by other place you mean heaven?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on June 03, 2010, 06:36:12 am
Well what ever you want to call it. its a nice place to visit but I dont want to stay there lol
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on June 03, 2010, 11:05:49 am
Yeah well the other place is a bit dull  :-\

This reminds me of something.

I've always really like C.S. Lewis's portrayals of hell and heaven. Instead of the "hell is awful, but has all the good people and demons and is kind of a party really" and "heaven is really boring with clouds and harps and creamed cheese eating", Lewis's idea was that hell was really, really boring.

In Screwtape letters, the narrator complains about heaven playing music at all hours of the night and accuses God of being a hedonist for creating pleasure.

Of course, most Christians wouldn't have any of this, which is why Lewis was pretty chill in my book.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 03, 2010, 03:10:58 pm
I completely agree, C.S. Lewis has quite the idea of heaven and hell. but it almost just makes it seem like no matter where you go there is a downside where heaven is supposed to be your own personal paradise
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: charles on June 03, 2010, 07:58:43 pm
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/hell.png)
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 03, 2010, 08:13:20 pm
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/hell.png)
thats amazing and definitely hell-like
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: tbeean on June 05, 2010, 03:43:00 pm
LMAO. got to love xkcd :')

and it would be hell. i'd never be able to get the tetris tune out my head D;
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: charles on June 05, 2010, 05:09:36 pm
If you can get the circle filled up, just right, and get a few straight blocks, you might just be able to build a flat surface above it, with one gap, and then get it rolling.

...But being hell... I bet they removed the 4blockline :(
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on June 05, 2010, 08:50:54 pm
you only get squigly and reverse squigly
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: RoninAngel on July 31, 2010, 11:28:07 pm
That must be from what's his name that one guy, Dante, right?
Very little is said about hell in the new testament and pretty much less in the old testament. By the time of Dante i the middle ages the Catholic church has pretty much fucked the Christian religion irrevocably. Well not irrevocably, there are still some sects of Christianity that are pretty awesome, but the Catholic faith seems to me to be too full of twisted sex-negativism and guilt and fire-brimstone-horror to be healthy for people.

I'm just going to be reincarnated as an awesome person so see you guys next time!  ;D
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on July 31, 2010, 11:55:46 pm
Nothing's said of hell in the Old Testament about hell because hell as such did not exist to Jews.

Most things refer to "the grave" (aka sheol), is just where you go when you die, good or bad (and probably didn't refer to an actual place, just a metaphore for oblivion/death.)

Though there's reference to a more hell-like "gehenna" as well, which seems to be more like purgatory (but this is coming from wiki, so i don't know).

In any case, I believe in Planescape's Great Wheel (though I'd probably end up in Hades...)
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on August 01, 2010, 09:46:25 am
christians are also taught that all our(everyone) sins are forgiven making it seem that nobody will go to hell anyways because we have a "clean slate" so to speak
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: RoninAngel on August 01, 2010, 10:28:37 am
Only other Christians get to be forgiven. If you don't accept that Jesus Christ is the human incarnation of the Almighty, you are pretty screwed. Basically, according to them, God thinks All Crimes are Equal and just by virtue of being a person and living your life you are guilty of enough sin to warrant eternal damnation. Catholics are even worse about this, claiming that you are born a sinner (I guess coming out of a vagina is too icky for the Almighty  ::)) and no matter what you do you'll be damned if you don't get baptized.
That's why in Dante's book ancient Greek philosophers that he respected like Socrates and Aristotle are in hell. They are guilty of living and dying before the invention of Christianity.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Churba on August 01, 2010, 10:46:54 am
Only other Christians get to be forgiven. If you don't accept that Jesus Christ is the human incarnation of the Almighty, you are pretty screwed. Basically, according to them, God thinks All Crimes are Equal and just by virtue of being a person and living your life you are guilty of enough sin to warrant eternal damnation. Catholics are even worse about this, claiming that you are born a sinner (I guess coming out of a vagina is too icky for the Almighty  ::)) and no matter what you do you'll be damned if you don't get baptized.
That's why in Dante's book ancient Greek philosophers that he respected like Socrates and Aristotle are in hell. They are guilty of living and dying before the invention of Christianity.

The fucked up thing about this, and pardon me for goodwin'ing - Hitler has the blood of six million on his hands, and if he repents on his deathbed, he goes to heaven. Norman Bourlag, an athiest, has saved easily more than a billion lives to date, and that number increases every day, even after his death, but since he never accepted christ as his lord and saviour(because obviously, he had more important things to do, for example, saving the lives of over a billion people) is sent to never-ceasing, unimaginable torture for all eternity.

Dear Christians - WHAT THE FUCK?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: RoninAngel on August 01, 2010, 11:46:19 am
Well, I think that there might be a thing in some denominations (the only one I know for sure about is Catholicism, ironically) Mortal Sin: things that you can't get into heaven if you do them before getting absolved of before you die. Aldoph Hitler committed suicide (witch is in itself is a mortal sin, to add to his many many other mortal sins) so obviously he didn't get off the hook before he died. So the Catholics are off the hook on that one. If Hitler had had an abortion, however, he wouldn't have had a chance to be absolved, however, becuase he would be automatically excommunicated.  ::)


Josheph Stalin, however, might have been luckier, I don't really know enough about Georgian Orthodoxy, but depending on their beliefs on weather or not they support the whole mortal sin idea and weather it negates being baptized, he might have ended up in Heaven. It wouldn't matter if he happened to be the most virulently atheistic mass murderer in history, and is responsible for horrible crimes not just against his own people in general but the very Christian church  he was baptized in specific, murdering something like 100,000 priests and nuns and being responsible for closing something like 450,000 churches by the 1940s.

 :(
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Churba on August 01, 2010, 11:58:18 am
Well, you can go two ways on Stalin - all of his actions against religion were purely political in nature. He left the Seminary he had a scholarship to because he thought that it was an imperialistic institution, he thought religion had to be crushed out to create an ideal communist society, but there is no indication that it was reflective of his personal beliefs, as best I know, as if a religion agreed with him, he wouldn't bother them, he'd stick with them.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on August 01, 2010, 12:05:31 pm
christians are also taught that all our(everyone) sins are forgiven making it seem that nobody will go to hell anyways because we have a "clean slate" so to speak

Well, that's the big paradox. If Jesus died for everyone's sins, why do only Christians benefit from it?
That gives rise to the theory that people send themselves to hell, they could go if they wanted to, but "refuse" somehow. Which I think is pretty ridiculous to say about a lot of people.

Only other Christians get to be forgiven. If you don't accept that Jesus Christ is the human incarnation of the Almighty, you are pretty screwed. Basically, according to them, God thinks All Crimes are Equal and just by virtue of being a person and living your life you are guilty of enough sin to warrant eternal damnation.

Yeah, God demands perfection, and if you are imperfect, you must suffer eternally unless you buy into his plan.

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Catholics are even worse about this, claiming that you are born a sinner (I guess coming out of a vagina is too icky for the Almighty  ::)) and no matter what you do you'll be damned if you don't get baptized.

Well, it's supposed to be that because Adam and Eve sinned, we inherited that "sin nature" from them (since we were "there" with them, i.e. up the chain of sperm and eggs, even though we didn't any choices). So you are born a sinner, but from a Protestant point, you don't get the blame til you sin freely and knowingly (which you will eventually do, since it is in your nature).

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That's why in Dante's book ancient Greek philosophers that he respected like Socrates and Aristotle are in hell. They are guilty of living and dying before the invention of Christianity.

Yeah, again, Protestant say Christ died for everybody ever...though how you are supposed to be saved before Christianity is kinda fuzzy (unless you were a Jew that believed all the prophecies) or if you live now and never hear. Supposedly not knowing is no excuse because creation is evidence enough to deduce there is a God, to realize you're a sinner and need salvation and go on a quest to seek him (in which case he will help you find him) or something.

Of course, Catholicism also had Limbo (where Socrates and peeps are), for virtuous pagans and unborn/unbaptized babies. Basically it's not suffering like hell, but it's not a big party like heaven. And they have purgatory, which means if you're pretty good, but not totally repented and stuff, you get to "pay off" all your sins, which is much more logical than automatic, eternal punishment with no hope of parole.

The fucked up thing about this, and pardon me for goodwin'ing - Hitler has the blood of six million on his hands, and if he repents on his deathbed, he goes to heaven. Norman Bourlag, an athiest, has saved easily more than a billion lives to date, and that number increases every day, even after his death, but since he never accepted christ as his lord and saviour(because obviously, he had more important things to do, for example, saving the lives of over a billion people) is sent to never-ceasing, unimaginable torture for all eternity.

Dear Christians - WHAT THE FUCK?

I feel I should mention that the idea of "deathbed" conversion is rather exaggerated when tackling this issue. The kind of conversion necessary for salvation entails a lot more than saying, "Oh Lord God, forgive my many sins" our of fear or caution, you have to genuinely believe it, genuinely realize the extent of your sin, and genuinely repent for them. I find it unlikely someone like Hitler could do that over the course of a few moments before he dies.

It is messed up on the other side of things, though.

Well, I think that there might be a thing in some denominations (the only one I know for sure about is Catholicism, ironically) Mortal Sin: things that you can't get into heaven if you do them before getting absolved of before you die. Aldoph Hitler committed suicide (witch is in itself is a mortal sin, to add to his many many other mortal sins) so obviously he didn't get off the hook before he died. So the Catholics are off the hook on that one. If Hitler had had an abortion, however, he wouldn't have had a chance to be absolved, however, becuase he would be automatically excommunicated.  ::)

Well, the idea of excommunication or losing your salvation is rather unbiblical.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on August 01, 2010, 12:11:08 pm
And yet again, hell is probably an invention of the roman catholic sect that through the late roman emperors quelled all dissent by force. The logic behind this is that scared supersticious people are very easy to manipulate into obedience to authority.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on August 01, 2010, 12:16:05 pm
And yet again, hell is probably an invention of the roman catholic sect that through the late roman emperors quelled all dissent by force. The logic behind this is that scared supersticious people are very easy to manipulate into obedience to authority.

Umm...no.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Oddball on August 01, 2010, 12:33:00 pm
Well as a aircraft mechanic my personal hell will be working for a outfit working in the Canadian bush on out of date aircraft who's spares are hard to get. (think I've said this before  :-\ )
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: RoninAngel on August 01, 2010, 02:22:11 pm
Well, you can go two ways on Stalin - all of his actions against religion were purely political in nature. He left the Seminary he had a scholarship to because he thought that it was an imperialistic institution, he thought religion had to be crushed out to create an ideal communist society, but there is no indication that it was reflective of his personal beliefs, as best I know, as if a religion agreed with him, he wouldn't bother them, he'd stick with them.

I hate when people say this about Stalin. It doesn't matter why he did what he did against the church, his actions are unforgivable. Do you think the priests and nuns he has murdered were thinking "Oh well he's going to shoot me to death because of my religion, but that's okay because he is only converting everyone in the country to atheism for political convenience." 
And if he didn't believe that religion was so bad, it brings to mind, oh I don't know, WHY DID HE MURDER SO MANY PRIESTS AND NUNS?
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: RoninAngel on August 01, 2010, 02:38:51 pm
And yet again, hell is probably an invention of the roman catholic sect that through the late roman emperors quelled all dissent by force. The logic behind this is that scared supersticious people are very easy to manipulate into obedience to authority.

This is actually pretty much what I think. Most of the bad stuff in the religion is the fault of the hierarchy getting a hold of it.
I might be wrong but I heard that the early Christian faith was much more like a pretty mellow deal where you also had to thank Mother earth and stuff.

My brother read the dead sea scrolls when they were published in the early nineties and he really got into them.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on August 01, 2010, 08:40:25 pm
christianity is also very well founded on pagan ideas/dates (such as christmas which was the celebration of the winter solstice or some such thing)
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on August 01, 2010, 10:20:59 pm
This is actually pretty much what I think. Most of the bad stuff in the religion is the fault of the hierarchy getting a hold of it.
I might be wrong but I heard that the early Christian faith was much more like a pretty mellow deal where you also had to thank Mother earth and stuff.

My brother read the dead sea scrolls when they were published in the early nineties and he really got into them.

Some early church father (Origen I think) did believe in universal salvation. Some even believed that eventually Satan would come around. Which, to me, is the only system that makes sense because a God that only goes halvsies on his master plan is kinda...underwhelming.

But yes, Christians were supposed to be mellow. Meekness is a pretty strong theme. You don't get that now. Today's Christians are largely like the Pharisees in the Gospel (i.e. religious hypocrites). That was the whole point of Christianity's upposed "approval" of slavery, slaves were supposed to serve their masters cheerfully not because slavery was right, but because they were just supposed to be above all the selfish desires of their own freedom. Again, that kind of humility isn't something you see these days. And you can kind of tell that these writings were supposed to be changing with the times (just like Christianity threw out stuff like dietary laws when they weren't needed). Christians today are too focused on the letter of the law, instead of understanding the spirit behind that law (i.e. love thy neighbor). Everything is supposed to funnel back into that.

christianity is also very well founded on pagan ideas/dates (such as christmas which was the celebration of the winter solstice or some such thing)

That's only so far as holidays like Easter and Christmas go. Most of that is stuff invented by the Catholic church to distract from pagan holidays by filling in their own, and justifying it with birth of christ/resurrection memorial. Otherwise it's not founded on pagan ideas at all (unless you go way, way back to Babylonia, etc.).
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on August 02, 2010, 02:55:53 am
And the catholics were one of the most violent and opressive early christian sects
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on August 02, 2010, 10:17:12 am
Yes all very true EMP, and CDSM i do mean if you go back to the actual foundings of the church and not just holidays.

But how are we not making fun of scientology yet? it seems to make fun of itself nowadays.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Emp_Dragon on August 02, 2010, 10:59:02 am
Because it's not a religion, it's a fraudulent pyramid scheme!

And I think historical facts about my own faith is very interesting and that it's crucial to scrutinize how it has evolved to be able to separate true teachings from later political corruption, and thus be able to separate fellow faithful from the heretics. (WBC anyone?)
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on August 02, 2010, 07:56:28 pm
Yes all very true EMP, and CDSM i do mean if you go back to the actual foundings of the church and not just holidays.

I'd be interested in knowing what and where.

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But how are we not making fun of scientology yet? it seems to make fun of itself nowadays.

Because scientology is so unbelievably stupid it's not fun anymore.

Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: Zearth on August 02, 2010, 08:11:10 pm

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But how are we not making fun of scientology yet? it seems to make fun of itself nowadays.

Because scientology is so unbelievably stupid it's not fun anymore.


You have seen the south park on it right? it just makes it so much more of a joke.
Title: Re: Nine Circles Of Hell.
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on September 04, 2015, 11:04:39 am
What are your thoughts?

1st Circle: Unbaptized people and pagans
2nd Circle: Those who are overcome with lust/the need to have sex 24/7/365
3rd Circle: Gluttons/people who eat 24/7/365
4th Circle: Those who spend a shit load of money on shit they don't need
5th Circle: The ones consumed with rage fight on the surface of the River Styx (greek mythology) and the slothful/ones who are lazy lie beneath the water
6th Circle: Heretics
7th Circle: The violent; the 7th Circle has 3 inner Circles
The Outermost Circle: Those who are violent against property and inanimate objects
The Middle Circle: Suicides
The Innermost Circle: Those who are violent against God, nature, and/or art
8th Circle: Frauds (seducers, flatterers, those who exchange money for spiritual goods, sorcerers/false prophets, corrupt politicians, hypocrites, thieves, sowers of discord, etc.)
9th Circle: Those who betray one who is close to them (i.e. a close/best friend, a relative, a lover)

I think there are better ways to gauge someone's level of evil than this.

1st Circle: Unbaptized people and pagans Isn't even that bad. And what about people who were born and died without baptism?
2nd Circle: Those who are overcome with lust/the need to have sex 24/7/365 Infidelity is far worse than nymphomania
3rd Circle: Gluttons/people who eat 24/7/365 (This should be first circle, along with excess of sex)
4th Circle: Those who spend a shit load of money on shit they don't need 2nd, except with regard to those who burden their loved ones with debt
5th Circle: The ones consumed with rage fight on the surface of the River Styx (greek mythology) and the slothful/ones who are lazy lie beneath the water (Move sloth to 3rd)
6th Circle: Heretics (Seriously, a person's religion is between them and God. It's not up to us humans to decide what is and isn't heresy, and certainly not up to some guy in a funny hat who wrote these circles anyway)
7th Circle: The violent; the 7th Circle has 3 inner Circles (sure, I can agree with that, except...)
The Outermost Circle: Those who are violent against property and inanimate objects I've kicked trees when I'm upset
The Middle Circle: Suicides Insult to injury. Life treated them bad, and now they get punished for it. Wtf?
The Innermost Circle: Those who are violent against God, nature, and/or art (Ummm, what about to people? )
8th Circle: Frauds (seducers, flatterers, those who exchange money for spiritual goods, sorcerers/false prophets, corrupt politicians, hypocrites, thieves, sowers of discord, etc.)  Goes in 6th circle. Rapists and murderers are far worse.
9th Circle: Those who betray one who is close to them (i.e. a close/best friend, a relative, a lover)

So basically, we have a list that almost totally needs to be reordered and which contains sins that aren't sins.