Comics Discussion => Flipside Discussion => Topic started by: Valenthesial on June 27, 2009, 09:16:43 am
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Just tried my hand at some coloring. I think the forum's title picture could use some new fancy colors!
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910760/oldoutfit_ver2.png)
Please tell me what you think!
EDIT: Updated with current version according to criticism I've got so far.
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Seems like the original link didn't work. updated it.
http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910263/basliklogo.png
Either nobody saw it so far due to a non working link, or it is just plain horrible... :P
Would like to hear criticism either way...
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It's great! Better then i would even be able to do.
But i have to say Berns eyes are off...
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It's great! Better then i would even be able to do.
But i have to say Berns eyes are off...
Thank you :-[. It's my first time to try coloring, so I wouldn't know how good/bad it is. (Took ages ;))
Tried to slightly modify Bern's eyes:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910280/basliklogo.png)
She's got her hair over her right eye, which made it a bit harder for me to color correctly :P
Crest's eyes are also kinda weird from the same reason, but I still haven't figured a technic to deal with those.
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I dunno.. they are a darker green i guess
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=60
Oh and i deleted the part about this thread you posted in the debate room.
Hope you don't mind ;)
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Hehe, you should have said that in the first place! I was playing with lighting and trying to make them more realistic, and your original issue was with them not being dark enough? :D
Another attempt to make the eye color a bit more similar to the linked artwork of Bern:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910295/basliklogo.png)
Even darker!
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910296/basliklogo_Dark.png)
Well, I believed Delusion's coloring aren't necessarily the official version as they aren't Brion's (he's doing his art only black and white as far as I know), So I took the liberty to interpret the colors as I thought. (Note that the scarf color I choose for instance was indeed mimicking Delusion's choice of colors from the very same picture you've linked, but it is also not the same).
Also the other characters aren't depicted completely according or previous coloring.
Inverness's hair color was depicted as some kind of green (which is totally wrong in my taste!) which I chose a bright blond-golden for. Mary's hair was depicted in the past as Grey or even Purple, which I drew as a sort of grayish-blond.
Oh and i deleted the part about this thread you posted in the debate room.
Hope you don't mind ;)
Ofc I wouldn't mind, it was rather unrelated to the debate, was just trying to catch your attention :P
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It's just my opinion so you shouldn't pay that much attention to it, i like the eye collour better now
In overall i think it looks good.
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It's just my opinion so you shouldn't pay that much attention to it, i like the eye collour better now
In overall i think it looks good.
Never think lowly of your own opinion! :)
Besides, I appreciate any comments that could help me improve it, so thanks!
Somehow I'm getting the feeling that I've failed to pick much of the forum's interest :P
Btw: does one need to be a moderator in order to make a topic with vote options, or am I just being blind?
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Isn't Suspira's hair green and Mary's hair purple? *shrug*
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Isn't Suspira's hair green and Mary's hair purple? *shrug*
I think I've already answered it above.
Brion never made an official coloring for any of those, nor stated what should be the hair color (as far as I know! correct me if I'm wrong)
so different people coloring the same characters could interpret their look differently.
look at the alternate colorings available on the bottom of the page at:
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=189
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=251
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=391
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=319
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=669
Are they all bad because they use a different color? :)
If you don't like my chosen colors, let me know! I can change them (obviously) and try something a bit different (but I sincerely think Suspiria with green hair looks horrible :P)
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A more conventional coloring:
Green & Purple hair colors:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910403/basliklogo_3.png)
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And another version specifically for charles:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910405/basliklogo_extra_cat.png)
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I really believe that that specific banner is probably better in black and white, or at least mostly grey tones with colors only in the center panel.
As it would stand with colors, there would simply be too many, and it would simply be too confusing. The composition (or any lack thereof that it may have) is not set up for those colors.
It would probably be easier to go into color with the picture if all of Brion's characters didn't have ~cRaAZy AnIMe haIR~ colors.
Ummm. perhaps you are right.
I never had anything against anime (quite the opposite), so looking at 10 different characters standing in a row, each of them having a crazy haircolor along with outrageously colorful outfit doesn't look bad to me... depends on the taste I suppose.
OK. Added shadows to attempt improving the overall quality:
1. Only center is colored version (according to Deatzh's idea):
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910416/basliklogo_centeronly.png)
2. Fully colored with added shadows / textures (And I think this time I permanently ruined poor Susperia's Hair):
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910414/basliklogo_shadowed2.png)
3. Yet another crazy hair for Suspiria (hell her hair is hard to color)
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910419/basliklogo_electric.png)
Any constructive criticism / opinions?
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I like Suspira's hair in the last one. She's in full spell casting mode there and it just has a very "energized" look about it.
TOTAL WIN!
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910405/basliklogo_extra_cat.png)
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o.O; Wait a minute there.
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o.O; Wait a minute there.
I'm waiting... still waiting... still waiting... now would you please state your opinion? which of the designs you like the best, or are all of them awful so far and need fixing? :P
So then a lot of people coloring anime just have a terrible concept of color. A lot of people doing digital art feel like it needs to be saturated as hell, too. Doesn't make it 'right' when the masses do it.
I dunno, I guess the more you know about it, the more you can see what's wrong. Also I'm photosensitive. So bad color combos can, and have a tendency TO hurt my eyes.
Not that it matters. I have it set to the sexy theme or whatever it is, so I still get to see the other banner.
...which has some good color choices by the way.
(Edit: My post probably sounds more aggressive than intended to, for which I apologize.)
Hey, No offense taken! I strictly asked for opinions and I appreciate the effort into writing them even if I might have different taste myself!
(I'm totally into bright crazily saturated colors)
The latest ones are slightly less crazily saturated I believe, with less offensive-to-the-eyes colors (bright saturated yellows were recolored).
Any other ideas on how to improve this?
Are the shadows for example on May's face any good? or do they look unnatural?
How do you like the "only the center colored" version? is it better in general than the fully colored one?
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Alright.
Yet another updated version.
1. Bern's scarf has been textured differently
2. Maytag basic skin hue was changed.
3. Maytag's lighting was smoothed and enhanced. (Especially the face and exposed shoulder areas)
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910679/basliklogo.png)
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Is loving it more and more. ^^
Maytag looks just about perfect now.
Though from what I have seen, I believe her left shoulder should be like the right, clothed, in white though, as the rest of her arm.
Of course, I don't really know the official version, but it would seem logical.
Also, if it was me, I would match the colour of the bells and her necklace. +I think the right half should be white.
Only my opinion though. I guess I would call it advise...
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Hmmmm, You're showing the lightsorce on Maytag coming slightly from the right, so maybe give a little shade to the side of her left shoulder... ACTUALLY that left shoulder should either be covered in the sleeve or the right one should be bare as well shouldn't it? *shrug*
A slight hint of light on her upper cheek would also give a hint of the curve of her face and her upper cheek coming out a bit, or maybe a bit of a wider shadow on her chest from those bells. Lipstick might be just a shade too dark also. But I love Suspira's energized hair.
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Hmmmm, You're showing the lightsorce on Maytag coming slightly from the right, so maybe give a little shade to the side of her left shoulder... ACTUALLY that left shoulder should either be covered in the sleeve or the right one should be bare as well shouldn't it? *shrug*
Umm. you are right about the lightsource, I'll see what I can do.
About the asymmetrical issue with her shoulders - I must have misinterpreted Brion's original B&W artwork here. I think the asymmetric version actually looks cute on her, but my main goal is indeed to cope with the original, so it'll be changed ;)
A slight hint of light on her upper cheek would also give a hint of the curve of her face and her upper cheek coming out a bit, or maybe a bit of a wider shadow on her chest from those bells. Lipstick might be just a shade too dark also. But I love Suspira's energized hair.
Will see what I can do with the lipstick hue to make it less red and more natural and about some lighting on the cheeks.
Thanks for your comment on Suspiria, she was hell to color. must have worked on that small right upper picture more time than I've worked on the rest of the image, rofl.
Also, if it was me, I would match the colour of the bells and her necklace. +I think the right half should be white.
- You seem to think the same as charles on the shoulder issue. Well, it seems it should be that way according to the original artwork, I've just noticed the thin black line from sleeve to neck, so I'll recolor it accordingly. Shame, it seems I wanted to expose a bit of skin on pretty Maytag :P
- I'll try some golden bells later today, will post it when I'm done.
Thank you for your comments!
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Yeah, Umber commented when she saw Maytag in her new Jester suit that she liked how it showed off her shoulders a bit more than the old outfit (which is the one in the image)
http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=181 There's probably also an old colour picture somewhere in the beginning of the comic which shows it as well *shrug*
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(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910760/oldoutfit_ver2.png)
Alright! Added on this version:
- Color matched bells. (Even though I've checked Maytag's old outfit according to charle's suggestion, and it had gray bells and b&w collar. http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/book0/fs11titl.html I'm still unsure if to keep it golden, or to try matching the origin)
- Covered the shoulder with a sleeve of white cloth, and added shadows according to light source from the left.
- Wider shadows are now cast by the bells.
- Added some "reverse" lighting as in brightening the black cloth parts where it should be effected directly from light source on the left side of the image.
This was mainly done to (in an attempt to) give a feeling that the black and the white cloth are made of similar material.
- Decreased saturation on the lipstick, making it less "strong" and a bit more natural.
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Mate. That beautiful. the shading and lighting really do a goodjob. I was going to suggest it around her breasts as well to give them some dimension but I think the suit is probably quite tight and might even drop those frills straight down *shrug*
Golden bells look pretty neat but up to you on what you think looks good. I like the shading on them and the lips are pretty much spot on with that lighter shade.
Again, great work mate.
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Ok,
I ran out of ideas on how to improve my first project, so for the time being this is the final version of the title:
#1 Forum Title recolored.
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910760/oldoutfit_ver2.png)
My new recoloring project is Chapter 13 Page 21 (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=488) - the introduction of my all time favorite character - Suspiria.
#2 First thoughts & Color concept:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910972/Chapter13_21.png)
A plain or gradient background is only good for the basic concept, so I've started working on the back image, using Chapter 13 Page 20 (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=487) as a reference - the road on the edge of Brahma.
If you're asking yourself: "What the hell is that yellow-green light, are they being abducted by aliens?" the answer is that I'm trying to reflect the light cast by the magical-energy-umbrella thingy above them (Which I assume have this kind of color, according to the smaller umbrella shown on http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic.php?i=436) Still not sure if that light is a good idea or not.
#3 Background + some lighting:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910971/Chapter13_21_light.png)
As usual, would love hearing your thoughts & ideas on how to improve this one.
This is obviously not a completed piece just yet, so keep it in mind! ;)
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ooooh, I actually like the "strike-throgh" effect of the first one. The Brahma background is good, but sometimes I like that dramatic "new characters" feel *lol*. But I can see you improved the shading on the last one as well.
Her glowing Tat is amazing. Great work again.
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(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/img/E2nu910971/Chapter13_21_light.png)
That actually hurts my eyes...
...WITH AWESOMENESS!! :D
Seriously though, pretty good. Very cool with the leg tat thing. Personally I'd go ahead and make Suspi a blonde though, that greenish thing going on in her hair doesn't do it for me at all.
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Personally I'd go ahead and make Suspi a blonde though, that greenish thing going on in her hair doesn't do it for me at all.
I truly agree. However last time I tried making her a blond, people complained to me that her hair is supposed to be green ;)
Well, I might just give it another try as a blond Inverness.
Thank you both for the compliments. Anything regarding the color selection besides her hair?
Kin isn't shown colored anywhere as far as I know, so I've just experimented with him a bit.
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HAHA. Super Saiyan Suspira!
I must admit, I don't like the green you've used but I do like the green you used in my signature. That might go down well *shrug*
These are all EXCELLENT colour jobs. Great work!
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You know, I'll say it. They're really not excellent color jobs. They are a pain to look at since they use overly saturated colors that are completely unnecessary, and the abuse of filters is just downright annoying.
Brion's linework isn't that difficult to color, but when you really have no clue what you're doing, it ends up looking bad, with artifacts showing where artifacts should not be.
The backgrounds in the last couple pictures are, once again, oversaturated. They're terribly distracting from the characters, and thus the actual focus of the picture.
You want to do art? Make your own stuff, stop trying to color other peoples' stuff, especially without asking them first, because that's just plain rude. It's really obvious that you don't understand what you're doing, and that you need to sit down and study the stuff.
I might be irritated because you completely blew off what I told you, then you went and pulled this (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/forum/index.php?topic=225.msg18416#msg18416) garbage. Just, no. Knock it off.
I'm afraid I'm not longer interested in your offensive comments as of today.
If Brion is offended by me coloring his artwork, he can and would remove them. His forum, his rules. I specifically sent him my coloring in a private message as of to make sure he noticed. He didn't seem to like the coloring job, but he seem to have appreciated my attempt.
If people do not like my works, they can either: 1. try to help me improve by commenting 2. ignore my thread completely - as you should.
Coloring is an art of itself, as most people would tell you. I never claimed to have done the original artwork, and I downright STATE every time it is not originally mine, but rather my coloring. I also state every time I'm just an amateur starting at this.
If you have an issue, sue me. (And yes, you can attempt to do that ONLY if I color your artwork, which I do not intend to - because I do not like it nor you enough to do so).
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Deatzh, I do not believe that I've done anything to offend you or to cause such a reaction and foul language on your part.
Having or lacking a spine has nothing to do with wanting to make a civilized discussion.
There is also no need to agree with everyone regarding taste, nor start flame wars over it.
Please steer out of my way and I'll stay clear of yours.
Regards,
Valenthesial.
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@Deatzh: Take it to your rage thread.
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@Deatzh: Take it to your rage thread.
I don't think any of us should butt in on this...
That's the mods job... If the mod doesn't mind then it's fine.. Not our section hun ;)
BTW please do not reply to this post as this is also not a thread to discuss anything but the topic that it's about... And that's basicly what they where doing in the first place.
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That's the mods job... If the mod doesn't mind then it's fine.. Not our section hun ;)
No offense dude, but saying that? Also the mod's job. Not your section either, hun.
@Valenthesial: You're doing a fine job, keep going. As you probably know, Brion has said time and time again that he is just fine with people coloring his work and displaying it on the forum, in fact he has encouraged it on more than one occasion. You do the right thing by not listening to a pathetic artsy-fartsy prima donna who seems just desperate to prove to the world that she knows more than everyone.
@Deatzh: You may believe you are just chock-full of super-important and valuable insights about art, but that doesn't change that fact that nobody cares :) You're angry that he just blew off your original advice... but that's fine, because you deserve to have your original advice blown off by everybody, because your "advice" is nothing but a braggart's worthless self-serving drivel, that is of no use to anybody, much less someone who is really making an effort to improve.
@Valenthesial again: Dude... waiting for the next one, and make her a blonde this time ;)
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@Tropico: I think we all need to stop stoking this fire now. Goes for me to.
@Valenthesial: I feel a seperate discussion is forming in your colouring thread about how appropriate it is to colour other's art without their permission or informing them first (among other discussions). If you see this as a seperate line of discussion, you may wish to ask that Deatzh (as the mod of this area) seperates the appropriate posts and redirects them either to "The Debate Room" or the "Talk to the Moderators" area for further discussion and debate on these topics there.
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you may wish to ask that Deatzh (as the mod of this area)
Wrong area Charles :P.
Only Brion has mod capability here in the Flipside discussion.
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*lol* I just presumed this thread must be part of the "Artist's Den" *LOL* :-[
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*lol* I just presumed this thread must be part of the "Artist's Den" *LOL* :-[
rofl. I might have chosen the wrong forum for it then?
As I was viewing it (and I guess I still am), it is flipside related since it is directly involved with the actual comic.
I guess I wasn't really thinking of it as "art" when I begun this (also wasn't that familiar with the forum structure as I just newly joined when posting this ;))
If I'm not bothering anyone by being in this forum part, I'd rather stay here. It's rather comfy in here! (maybe except for the occasional storm coming in ;D)
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Humility is one of the greatest displays of courage.
Now HUGS!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/3231378582_e8cc359a44_m.jpg)
I'm looking forward to the next cover page. Maybe we can all give it a crack and see what we come up with.
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Thanks for apologizing, Deatzh.
Sorry, I've been in L.A. for the last week, so I haven't been paying any attention to this thread. But I just want to state a few things for the record:
Delusions' colors are mostly the official colors, with a few minor exceptions (Like Bern's scarf / clothes on the chapter 10 cover.) Of course, you are free to interpret the colors any way you like in your own version. I have no problem with you using my lineart as a practice exercise for your coloring, and posting it here for critique. If it's good enough, there's always the chance that I'll use it. That is how Karla became one of my colorists after all, when she submitted her own colored version of chapter 4's cover.
Valenthesial, I'm not really much of a colorist myself, but I do know a little bit about it. It looks like you've put a lot of effort into those color pieces, and I appreciate that. However, there are some basic things you need to brush up on. Your shading needs a lot of work, it doesn't have any "depth" so it tends to make the characters look flat, especially on the skin tones. For example, Suspiria's leg in the pic from chapter 13 looks really bad because you've just added a solid line of shading to the right side; it makes her leg look flat, instead of rounded like it should look. Also, a big problem with most of your shading is that you seem to be using black for shadows. Generally this tends to create an ugly look... take a look at a lot of colorists and you'll notice that they use colors for shadows, almost never black. This is also why the scarf on the banner you colored looks kind of ugly, because of the heavy black shading.
Quite frankly, I'm no expert so I can't offer you much more than basic advice. The best advice I can give you is to go on the web and study up on some of the great colorists out there, and try to learn from them. It won't happen overnight, but I can tell that you have the fortitude to stick with it, if you keep practicing you will eventually get there. You have the talent, you just need more experience. I hope this criticism is useful to you, and please feel free to keep posting your coloring exercises here on the forum if you'd like.
As for people who have been rude in this thread, I will chat with them in PM about it. Please try to keep things civil.
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Delusions' colors are mostly the official colors, with a few minor exceptions (Like Bern's scarf / clothes on the chapter 10 cover.) Of course, you are free to interpret the colors any way you like in your own version.
DELUSION (http://reversedelusion.com/) COLOURS:
Chapter 01: Maytag (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip01-00.jpg)
Chapter 01: Maytag, Bernadette and Crest. (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip01-04-05.jpg)
Chapter 02: Bernadette (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip02-00.jpg)
Chapter 03: Bernadette in Armour (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip03-01.jpg)
Chapter 09: Maytad and Shepherd (shadow) (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip09-01.jpg)
Chapter 10: Maytag, Bernadette and MANY more (note: clothing inconsistencies). (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip10-01.jpg)
Chapter 13: Crest (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip13-01.jpg)
Chapter 15: Maytag (slave) (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip15-01.jpg)
Chapter 17: Maytag (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip17-01.jpg)
Chapter 19: Maytag and Suspira (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip19-01.jpg)
Chapter 20: Maytag and Bernadette (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip20-01.jpg)
OTHERS:
Karla Groth (http://fenomena.deviantart.com/): Chapter 04: Maytag and Crest (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip04-01.jpg). Chapter 06: Naked Maytag (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip06-01.jpg). Chapter 08: Young Maytag (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip08-01.jpg). Chapter 11: Maytag and Bernadette (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip11-01.jpg) (OTHERS (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip11-01alt.html)). Chapter 12: Bloody Mary (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip12-01.jpg) (OTHERS (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip12-01alt.html)). Chapter 14: Suspira/Inverness (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip14-01.jpg). Chapter 16: Bloody Mary (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip16-01.jpg). Chapter 18: Mary (non-Bloody) (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip18-01.jpg) (OTHERS (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip18-01alt.html))
Savage Sparrow (http://www.mysticrev.com/): Chapter 05: Crest (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip05-01.jpg) (Others (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip05-01alt.html)). Chapter 21: Maytag, Danzig, Escher and "Twins" (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip21-01.jpg)
Kaiser P: Chapter 07: Naked Bernadette (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip07-01.jpg) (Others (http://www.flipsidecomics.com/comic/com-flip07-01alt.html))
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Uh, I should have said, almost *all* of the chapter covers are official. There are a few minor exceptions, but usually the colors are dictated by me.
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I love all the neat colorings and ideas for colorings of the fab world of flipside.
I thought Valenthesial was doing a good job with it. really. everyone has to start somewhere. I wouldn't get near that in color intensity on my own.
Good point about minimizing the use of black for shading. try more earthy tones. ;) or darker shades of the same color.
And i like playing with different colors on the same characters myself. when I get a coloring book I usually make a copy first so I can use multiple color variances. then I can pick my favorites. :-*... it's been a while since I colored anything that wasn't my own. makes me reminisce my neopets days...
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I like the green for Nessy's hair.
If it goes right with all the other colourings, it should feel natural even though green isn't a natural hair colour in "the real world".
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I had a thought the other day that maybe she could have a different pastel colour for her hair depending on her mood. Both times we've seen colour in her hair, it's been in her "normal/neutral" hair style. The only difference is that in one, she was casting a spell (so it was still the normal style but just very long).
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well I kinda imagined her hair changing colors as well as styles as it changes with her mood. *shrugs* maybe that's just me though.
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Prett sweet colouring there, Valen. Love the detail on Nessy's hair.
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Hey so I'm doing a Crest cosplay... it's almost finished - I went with the dark blue/electric blue on the shirt as I mostly see it, except for the Chapter 13 cover... but I choose to attribute that to the purple haze he's chillin' in. I used the Bloody Mary colored panels for a lot of my reference, even though the coloring is sort of tweaked for lighting. For instance, Crest's goggles (which I made from brass, in keeping with every other coloring) are grey in this lighting. I went with a grey for the bag-belt and backpack, as it seemed legit. The sword, however is currently wood-stain colored sitting at my bench.
Thus I ask opinions on its coloring, or any references I missed. I know the blade is a steel color, but that was all but given. I can tell the grip has some kind of wrapping, which I would assume to be some sort of color, but I have no idea of the rest of the hilt. Even in the greyscale frames it switches freely between black and white. Any thoughts?
EDIT: what I've done so far http://www.cosplay.com/photo/2192384/
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That, and my own fan coloring:
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs161.snc1/6014_113942382633_615927633_2426710_7433304_n.jpg)
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That's actually really, really funny... Made me chuckle out loud here.
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that's cool happy. it's really dark. i like the section of Bern covering her mouth.
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Well that's actually a colored panel... I just added the shoop -___-
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Some thoughts on the colored banner:
Isn't Suspirias arms and neck disappearing a bit with your coloring? In the uncolored version, it is clear that she has her arms stretched above her head, and I think they should have a skin toning instead of being black, blue and green. The full panel is shown in chapter 14, p 23, and gives a better idea about what is hair, what is skin and what is just background.
And in your version, Bloody Mary's forehead has turned the same color as her hair.