Maytag's Playhouse => Free Talk => Topic started by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 04:53:50 am

Title: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 04:53:50 am
The winner is:

TERVUEREN!

(http://personal.inet.fi/koti/blackmasterstr/Hazel-Eole7.10.2007-3v8kk.Hile.3.jpg)

Almond-Eye puppy will arrive home the 16.6 2009.

Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on May 31, 2009, 07:05:47 am
Go for the second one Razzly.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Pozf on May 31, 2009, 01:10:52 pm
Personally I think the first one looks better but, it's probably not worth spending so much more because you're gonna love the dog no matter what it looks like.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 01:12:45 pm
Yeah, I think so too... I was going for a german shepherd first, and the Tervueren is like a hairier version of that.

Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: RoninAngel on May 31, 2009, 01:21:02 pm
Get the first one!  :-[

Gorgeous!
 :-[

So pretty! Could you imagine the kind of bank you could make breeding them?!?! :o
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 01:48:35 pm
Haha, but I'm not planning to breed them.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: RoninAngel on May 31, 2009, 01:51:18 pm
If there are no decernable diffence in the the behaviour of the different breeds, get the pretty one!  :-*
YAY! PRETTY ONE!  :-*
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 01:53:07 pm
I knooowwww.... It's so beautiful, but it's so expensive and the breeder lives somewhere with Santa... D: Bwaaah.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: RoninAngel on May 31, 2009, 01:59:18 pm
Just how expensive is so expensive?

How much of a differnce are we talking about here? And what is your budget? If you have pay more then you can afford, obviously get the one that is in your price range. Do you have to take out a lone? Miss your rent? Don't do that! But don't be cheap when it comes to your animal companions either.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 02:18:22 pm
Tervueren is about 900. Groenendael is 950 - 1000. I have about 800 collected, and the dog would be bought in autumn, so there's still time. :3

But I just found a Groenendael-breeder that is much closer to me. I'm going to wait and see how much she wants for her puppies, but it seems good! Mother-dog is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Selan on May 31, 2009, 02:25:41 pm
Go for the one you truly want.. don't look at money or distance.... What do you want?
If you can't afford what you want just yet... wait for another year or so... Don't rush a lifetime commitment.

(ok lifetime is excaturated but still)
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 02:27:58 pm
Oh no Selan, I can't wait. This is important to me. ^^
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Selan on May 31, 2009, 02:35:22 pm
I understand, i have the same thing... When i want something i want it NOW!
not next year. I think you want to have the black version... go for it! It's cute and well worth it.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on May 31, 2009, 02:37:45 pm
Deffo prefer the second one...is the fur shorter?
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on May 31, 2009, 04:08:43 pm
Selan: Yeah, exactly... But it's not just that. The dog is going to keep me from getting lonely and freaking out when I move away from home. I have some... issues being alone.

Odd: Nah, they're both equally fluffy. Females tend to have slightly shorter hair, though.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on May 31, 2009, 04:11:50 pm
GO FOR THE SECOND ONE!!!! you know you want to  ;D (I would if I could.)
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: CrystalDragonSpaceMarine on May 31, 2009, 05:49:17 pm
The second one.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: charles on May 31, 2009, 11:53:11 pm
As a previous owner of a German Shepherd from puppy to death, I can vouch for them as an absolutely wonderful dog.  It got hard in her later years as we watched her slow down with old age but I wouldn't trade the 14 years of her life she shared with us for anything.

I say go the Tervueren but thats probably just 'cos it looks more like a German Shepherd ;)  If you're in a fairly cold climate, you probably want the darker coat as it'll absorb more heat from the sun and keep him/her warmer.

Depending on what your issues are with being alone, you may simply want to head down to your local animal pound and check them out for a stray who seems friendly.  That way you don't have to wait for them to grow up before you feel secure.  Training is a bit more difficult at an older age but the old saying that you CAN'T teach an old dog new tricks is false.  Its harder yes, but they can still learn. (then again, you may have already worked this out and are getting the dog in time for it to be of reasonable size by the time you move out).

The other option you might want to consider is two dogs.  Double the security and they can keep each other company when you're out.  I know my sister had a dog when she was alone and it freaked her out sometimes when it chased shadows or noises that weren't there, out of boredom or because it got her attention.  With a second dog they'd probably both learn not to react to every little creak and squeek in a house with all the noise they'd make.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Pozf on June 01, 2009, 12:06:24 am
I know my sister had a dog when she was alone and it freaked her out sometimes when it chased shadows or noises that weren't there, out of boredom or because it got her attention.  With a second dog they'd probably both learn not to react to every little creak and squeek in a house with all the noise they'd make.

Eh, I don't know if I agree with that reasoning. The first dog I had was a rescue, a  Bichon Frise, which came from a household with 4 other dogs. He barked at Everything. My current dog, an abused rescue, came from a home where he was the only dog. He only barks at people he doesn't know and when people enter/leave the house (including us).

What you're saying is completely dependent on the dog... Maybe the breed too.

Also take this.
(http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/legend-of-zelda/sprites/Wooden_Sword_Up.gif)
it's far too dangerous to go alone.

Awesome... that is all.


Edit: Just curious, why buy a puppy? I understand they're adorable but Charles does raise a point with the pound, it is much cheaper and whatnot. I personally cannot go into those places, it breaks my stone heart.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: charles on June 01, 2009, 12:34:03 am
@Pozf: Yeah, you're probably right that its dependent on the dog.  That dog of hers just loved to bark. She tried every trick right up to getting one of those collars that makes a loud noise when they bark... and the bl**dy thing figured out a way to bark which wouldn't set it off! *lol*
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 01, 2009, 01:52:48 am
Keaoden: The dog is the exact same breed, it is only the coat that is different, which is why I'm asking for help in picking the "prettier" one. Haha, it's getting more and more difficult to choose.
(There is also a short-haired version of the Tervueren, but that version is bred for hard work only. I'm looking for a companion, not a slave, so that had to be singled out.)
Also, funny thing is, that the breed that most people mistake the belgian for... Is the collie! Even my friend thought I was wanting a black collie mix. Odd.


Charles:
I know, German shepherds are lovely. <3 The reason I chose the Belgian over one of those is because while the German shepherd sheds pretty much all the time, the belgian does it twice a year... And I'm allergic. ^^;
I live in a cold climate compared to the rest of the world, but we have hot summers as well.
About getting a rescue-dog... Yes, I considered this, (my stepmother had a wonderful, gorgeous rescue-dog) and even went to my country's shelter-homepage looking at what they had. The problem(s) are that the shelter prefers to give out their dogs to stable -families,- not lonely students who live in an apartment by themselves. That, and stray dogs that have been treated badly may have all kinds of trauma and behavioural problems, and right now I'm not in the position to re-train someone who has the habit of biting everything it sees.
I also would like to get a puppy because that gives me the chance to train it exactly as I want from the beginning. Step by step. Puppies are like clay ready to be formed - an adult dog is like dry clay.

Two dogs is something I may consider later on, but I'm not going to put two large dogs in a smallish apartment.


Deatzh: Like I said, the dog under the coat is the exact same.

Pozf: Like I told charles, I want a puppy because that way I can train it as I wish from the start. That, and a puppy from a good kennel won't be traumatized by some animal-abuser.

Stats at the moment: Tervueren seems to be getting the most votes...
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Pozf on June 01, 2009, 02:05:32 am

Charles:
I know, German shepherds are lovely. <3 The reason I chose the Belgian over one of those is because while the German shepherd sheds pretty much all the time, the belgian does it twice a year... And I'm allergic. ^^;

So it's a dog with hair and not fur?
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 01, 2009, 02:11:12 am

Charles:
I know, German shepherds are lovely. <3 The reason I chose the Belgian over one of those is because while the German shepherd sheds pretty much all the time, the belgian does it twice a year... And I'm allergic. ^^;

So it's a dog with hair and not fur?

...I'm quite sure it's still fur, even if it only sheds spring and autumn?
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Pozf on June 01, 2009, 02:13:26 am
Is it a type of dog that need to have its hair cut? Or does it stay roughly the same length all the time.

because if it's the former it's classified as a dog with "hair"
the latter is a dog with "fur"
even though the two really are the same thing on a dog.

Looking at it probably has fur.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 01, 2009, 02:19:50 am
Is it a type of dog that need to have its hair cut? Or does it stay roughly the same length all the time.

because if it's the former it's classified as a dog with "hair"
the latter is a dog with "fur"


Once the dog is an adult, the hair will stay the same lenght. It does need trimming, as in lots of brushing and picking away dead hairs... But no haircuts.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: RoninAngel on June 01, 2009, 12:24:14 pm
Get the black one! Big black dogs scare away wierdos!  :P

No, but seriously, get the black one!
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: akashayi on June 01, 2009, 12:40:13 pm
I don't know very much about dogs, not so great with them. But I think getting the pet you connect more with is important when you're looking for a new friend.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 01, 2009, 02:21:59 pm
Deathz: Like I said, the dog under the coat is the exact same.
What?
Also, DeatZh

Whoops, excuse me. Deatzh.

Yes. Breed is the same, and so their "personality" is the same. Of course every individual dog is different, but all breeds are supposed to have some traits, and well.. This is the same breed. It doesn't matter which one I get.

Akasha: Breeders rarely let buyers choose the puppy from their littler themselves. They interview you and then they pick the puppy they think would suit you the best for you. Good way of avoiding having inexperienced people get their hands on the toughest troublemaker of the litterl
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: charles on June 01, 2009, 05:50:54 pm
Charles: I know, German shepherds are lovely. <3 The reason I chose the Belgian over one of those is because while the German shepherd sheds pretty much all the time, the belgian does it twice a year... And I'm allergic. ^^;
Ahh, yes the German Shepherd sheds A LOT!  Ours was particularly bad but we originally got her in the far southern state of Tasmania here in Australia and then brought her up to the tropics of Queensland.  She was an outdoor dog but we let her become an indoor one after that climate change and she found the perfect spot just in line with the air-con.

I hear there are certain dogs who's coats are designed to be more woolen and are apparently good for allergies as well, but a dog that sheds twice a year is probably just as good.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 02, 2009, 02:45:15 am
I was going on more about specific personality than specific traits, but okay.

...And I'm not planning to surf around both kennels trying to figure out each puppy's personality, and pick according to that.  :) Bit of a drag to do it that way, y'know. I'm going to pick a colour, pick the kennel, and get a good one from those.

Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Smiles on June 02, 2009, 11:05:12 am
i vote puppy number one. :-*
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Sister Aluicious on June 04, 2009, 09:39:51 pm
i vote for the  Tervueren. puppy two!
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: charles on June 04, 2009, 09:49:14 pm
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/belgiantervueren.htm

Quote from: Tervuren Temperment
The Belgian Tervuren is one of four Belgian Sheepdogs. A very smart and obedient dog, they are serious and watchful with strong protective and territorial instincts. Socialize well to prevent them from becoming shy or sensitive. This breed needs an experienced master who is firm, but not harsh. If you are harsh or overbearing they will become uncooperative. Owners need to display a confident, natural authority over the dog. Consistent rules must be set and made clear. This breed is instinctively protective so it should be trained and socialized very well from an early age. Breeders should socialize puppies right from birth. Good for working and competition obedience. These dogs make excellent police and guard dogs. This type of work is currently their main occupation. They do however, make excellent pets if they have owners who can challenge their minds with an air of leadership. They are ever watchful, alert and loyal. Belgian Tervuren are good with children if socialized well with them. This breed needs to be part of the family and not locked up in a kennel. It does best when given leadership and daily exercise along with ample time, attention, training and companionship. If this breed is ignored, it will find ways to entertain itself, often at the owner's expense. The Belgian Tervuren has a lot of energy and needs a job to do. Working lines can have particularly high drive. It tends to bond strongly with one or two people. Take care when introducing this dog with small non-canine pets. They can be rather dominant toward other dogs and need an owner who can communicate to the dog that dominance is an unwanted behavior. Provided they are correctly socialized with cats and other pets, they should not present any problems. Belgian Tervuren may instinctively display herding behavior such as chasing and circling, moving effortlessly for hours and nipping at people's heels. They must be taught not to do this to people. This is a very demanding dog. It needs an experienced owner for it can easily be difficult to control unless the owner knows how to handle him. The way the owner handles the dog can produce wide differences in temperament and aggressiveness. Talk to someone experienced with the breed before you buy your dog. These dogs are often impressive; don't base your purchase solely on achievement records and appearances. Only adopt this type of dog if you fully understand what it means to be alpha.
I must confess, reading the above temperment guidelines, I'm a little worried about this being the choice of dog for Razzly.  Sorry but you just come across as meek and cute rather than dominant and firm.  Its got some great guard dog capabilities but are you confident you can handle such a dog?
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on June 04, 2009, 11:53:09 pm
see even Sis agree's with me go against the tide GO FOR NUMBER TWO  ;D
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 05, 2009, 02:39:41 am
Charles: Tsk tsk tsk, never judge a book by its cover. I've had dogs all my life. The first one was a mix of German Shepherd and finnish bear-dog, and the second was a Bearded Collie (which are quite nervous dogs.) and nowadays my mother breeds Parson Russell terriers, which are nasty little bastards, if you don't mind me putting it that way.

I may be meek and cute with people, but you have not seen me with a disobedient dog. ;)

Anyway, some new stuff has come up, and I might not be getting a puppy at all. You see, a 6-year old German Shepherd that I saw in my local animal shelter's ad seems to have stolen my heart after all. It was given away because of lack of time from the owners, so it's not a problem-dog, and it's trained as well. I'll tell you more about this issue later on.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: charles on June 05, 2009, 11:03:12 am
@Razzly: *sniffle* I love those stories.  Yay for the German Shepherd!  *sigh* I miss my Bonnie (name of my old German Shepherd who passed away in 2001 age 14).

Ok, you evidently know what you're doing with dogs, etc.  Over the years my family has owned a border collie, Boxer and the German Shepherd.  The first two we lost or gained when we moved overseas for 4 years.  Although, granted the Collie was already known in the compound as a dog who moved from owner to owner as people moved in an out (although we probably owned her for the longest period at 4 years).
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on June 05, 2009, 02:47:40 pm
Love Collies (cant eat a whole one on my own though  ;D )
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 10, 2009, 09:48:04 am
Yeah, well, the owners of the shepherd never even bothered to call me back, so I'm not sure I want a dog from someone who can't even pick up the phone, dial a number and say: "Sorry, we already found someone else."

Shitty island-mentality. I'm afraid I'll have to go back to the Belgians. And it'll probably be a Tervueren, since the groenendael kennel can't seem to find a sire for their female, so yeah.

Odd: o_o
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: akashayi on June 10, 2009, 06:18:29 pm
That sucks hard, Razzly :(

Best of luck in your companion finding.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 11, 2009, 04:03:24 am
Thanks Akasha. <3

Update! ....Again! (I hope no one minds me spamming in my own thread.)

Winner breed is... *drum roll*

TERVUEREN!

Her name is Cerys, she is 12 weeks old, and will probably, unless something unexpected happens again, be moving to my place soon.

Pictures later.  ;D
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Selan on June 11, 2009, 04:42:26 am
YAY!!!! Gratz on the puppy!
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: charles on June 11, 2009, 05:41:06 am
YAY

(http://www.erlandertervueren.com/Astabron/Images/26%20Nov%2006/DSC02201.JPG)
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: akashayi on June 11, 2009, 11:53:57 pm
Cerys is an awesome name.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on June 12, 2009, 12:31:27 am
WHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOO HHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! PAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 12, 2009, 12:06:47 pm
Photos!

This is her, photos taken yesterday by the breeder. ...Yeah, I'll definietly buy her.

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/Waribiki/Seri116-09005-1.jpg)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e276/Waribiki/Seri116-09007.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Pozf on June 12, 2009, 12:32:54 pm
Awwww A PUPPY!
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Oddball on June 12, 2009, 02:45:31 pm
yep a cute fuzzy little fecker Razzly  ;)
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.
Post by: Razzly on June 13, 2009, 06:40:01 am
She's gorgeous, isn't she?

She's arriving on Wednesday! (I'll go get her on Tuesday.) I'm a very excited Panda who can't sit still.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Foof on June 15, 2009, 03:43:01 pm
Ooh...she's so cute, Raz!
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Razzly on June 17, 2009, 03:34:49 am
Puppy is home now.

We're both exhausted even after 8 hours of sleep, and puppy follows me everywhere. Even the toilet! She is currently sleeping under my computer chair, and soonish we will go to town and buy some moisturizer. And maybe ice cream for dogling.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Emp_Dragon on June 17, 2009, 05:58:59 am
I can SO relate to that puppy XD
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Oddball on June 17, 2009, 07:49:53 am
Dont know if I have siad this before but......the only thing I miss about the ex is the daft Collie she had can I come round and take your pup for walks up in the hills some time Razzly?  ;D
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Razzly on June 17, 2009, 08:55:14 am
Emp: O_o

Odd: Of course you can :D
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Emp_Dragon on June 17, 2009, 02:12:34 pm
Yeah, I mean, if I'd been that puppy I'd also be following you around everywhere I could ;)
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Oddball on June 18, 2009, 12:20:10 am
Dont worry Razzly I'll keep your pup away from the electric fences *whistle*
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: RoninAngel on June 18, 2009, 12:32:05 pm
OF COURSE SHE ENDS UP PICKING THE OPPOSET OF WHAT I SUGGESTED!

Now I have a sad.  :(
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Razzly on June 18, 2009, 12:53:45 pm
To be honest with you Ronin, I picked the Tervueren because it was the only available kind. There were no groenendael pups in the kennels at the moment.

And still I think it's silly for you to take my choice of dog personally. :) You silly.
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: RoninAngel on June 18, 2009, 01:10:21 pm
I just wish I had more influence on you then I do, is all.  :-[

Well you and everyone else. I've always thought the best superpower would be a 25 Charisma score. 
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Oddball on June 19, 2009, 12:47:00 am
sorry chief my mind has been turned to mush so there is no chance of you being able to gain influance over me  ;D
Title: Re: Help Razzly choose the Puppy of her Life.[Chosen!]
Post by: Smiles on June 19, 2009, 10:29:28 pm
yay razzly! you got your puppy!^_^ :-* i'm so happy for you! ^_^

*gives razzly's puppy a squeaky chew toy* :-*