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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by weirdguy on Today at 07:50:14 pm »
gee, melter, wasn't that kind of overkill
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by bulmabriefs144 on Today at 08:02:22 am »
I don't get what your saying here..

How is Crest being a jerk by refusing unwanted sexual contact that is about to be forced upon HIM? 
How is HE being a jerk by reminding Moby what she'd already rejected as 'Not the way she is'.. {ie. being Rapey}?

I think your seeing what you want to see.. projecting your hang up on his wording, onto the situation instead of any actual character flaw on Crest's part.

He's not being a jerk by refusing unwanted sexual contact. That's being assertive. He's being a jerk for wrecking her emotionally by driving the point home over and over again that she's behaving out of character.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=3353

He could have stopped here. This (or just refusing to give the person raping any enjoyment), would probably be what Maytag would do.
Actually, tbh Maytag's patented approach to life is the acceptance technique, so she might even LET her rapist do whatever, just to deny him any enjoyment of having her resist (most rapists are also sadists).

But he didn't. He went on for two pages, telling a woman who is doped up on magical juices, how there's something "wrong" with her. When the two other messed up characters are about to stab themselves, having a third led to extreme guilt and shame is not a very "not a jerk" thing to do. I can't see this ending well, unless someone can break this effect.

Also, Crest has known Moby, what, two weeks? Where does he get off telling her what is or isn't her, after one date? There is definitely something wrong here, but I think that thinking Crest is unaffected is wrong. It's an Amplify spell.

  • Deadpan smoker got more deadpan
  • Vennice is more guilty about her treatment of Suspiria
  • Crest is more of a judgemental  jerk
  • Moby is a bigger rapist
  • Glyph is more upset about his player nature
  • Regina is stuck in a dream world with Melter

If we have someone not affected, it would be Regina, not Crest. Crest has probably caused Moby to later pull out her own knife.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by sunphoenix on December 13, 2017, 07:37:47 pm »
I don't get what your saying here..

How is Crest being a jerk by refusing unwanted sexual contact that is about to be forced upon HIM? 
How is HE being a jerk by reminding Moby what she'd already rejected as 'Not the way she is'.. {ie. being Rapey}?

I think your seeing what you want to see.. projecting your hang up on his wording, onto the situation instead of any actual character flaw on Crest's part.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by bulmabriefs144 on December 13, 2017, 03:10:15 pm »

Seeing how Crest dealt with Moby like a true Maytag would it's rather the 2nd easy one happening, but maybe i still cling to some hope that what happens started with the characters having these ugly feelings inside and the magic just made it stronger than it being complete mind control evil magic to do bad things. Also since we don't see what other two, meaning Vennice and Glyph, are doing with the knives, seeing Moby was defeated by Crest eyes and voice already, that should be more interesting to see as a result, especially since Glyph has someone to stop him in that moment, while Vennice was looking like someone who will cut her veins alone in the room to just bleed out without anyone noticing.

Seeing the result of Crest vs Moby I'm just disappointed, since I hoped Crest wouldn't get out of it so easy like usual, but maybe that's the boon of being the only male MC in this comic.

Since Regina seems to be in a dark zone, I assume she is actually asleep. Especially since she didn't respond much in the latter part. So, odds on him getting saved are not as good as you'd think.

Also, I willing to lay 10:1 odds that Lehm is NOT the bad guy in this story. It seems more like someone is running the government, from a sadistic kick of messing with people.

You might want to relook at Crest.

http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1437
http://flipside.keenspot.com/comic.php?i=1441

He is not resisting and being a hero like Maytag. It amplified his jerkishness. Which just happened to screw with Moby's own issues.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by Kiran on December 12, 2017, 12:23:46 pm »
We will get two outcomes here:
1) the characters do whatever they do due to psychological trauma, depression, pressure, situation etc playing the big part on their mental health
2) or the infamous characters do whatever they do due to evil magic forcing them to do so
First is an interesting outcome which could force the characters to develop by fightning their problems head on, in similiar way what May and Bern had to do, act and survive through in their stories, and the other is simple we did whatever we did cause a third party magic forced us to act like that and it's of course not our fault at all, so lets move on and forget about it.

Seeing how Crest dealt with Moby like a true Maytag would it's rather the 2nd easy one happening, but maybe i still cling to some hope that what happens started with the characters having these ugly feelings inside and the magic just made it stronger than it being complete mind control evil magic to do bad things. Also since we don't see what other two, meaning Vennice and Glyph, are doing with the knives, seeing Moby was defeated by Crest eyes and voice already, that should be more interesting to see as a result, especially since Glyph has someone to stop him in that moment, while Vennice was looking like someone who will cut her veins alone in the room to just bleed out without anyone noticing.

Seeing the result of Crest vs Moby I'm just disappointed, since I hoped Crest wouldn't get out of it so easy like usual, but maybe that's the boon of being the only male MC in this comic.
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by bulmabriefs144 on December 12, 2017, 12:14:12 pm »
Plot Twist: Brion's not really writing the story post Eye arc. Someone's mind is filling in the blanks sorta like Lehm's paintbrush.  :o
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by SAGG on December 12, 2017, 06:50:45 am »
OMG!!  This story is crazy, guys!!  What is happening...??
Uh-oh. If YOU don't know, Brion, then we're all in trouble....  ;D
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by Brion Foulke on December 12, 2017, 03:04:44 am »
OMG!!  This story is crazy, guys!!  What is happening...??
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by SAGG on December 12, 2017, 01:34:25 am »
Crest seems to have figured it out, but why hasn't he been affected like everyone else? 😐
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Flipside Discussion / Re: Chapter 49: Discussion
« Last post by bulmabriefs144 on December 10, 2017, 04:03:42 pm »
I'm not saying it isn't out of character.

I'm saying as a victim of a few "this isn't like you" moments and others where someone tried to guilt-trip me into certain behavior (biggest sore point for me is people who believe I'm a nice person also meaning I'm a pushover when they do exploitative behavior), there is a difference between similar and identical behavior. Not to mention there's moments sometimes, where you've promised to just keep friends... but then you get drunk, and are horny, and that's a bit more difficult.

But yeah, it's obviously a psychological spell.

Update: I still feel this way, even after trying to help a friend who was very much out of character. I don't feel like that's a cool thing to say even if it's the case.
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